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Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: Aussie Mark on June 01, 2010, 04:26:41 PM
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I came across this on another forum. Maybe we need a WTF section here. Fancy adding 1.5lbs to your bass?
http://www.headsupstrap.com/
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I don't have too much trouble with my Reverses but it'd probably help my BaCH's out a bit........
Of course I could just man up too! :gay:
we I need a Girlie icon smilie of some kind! What about it Dave and Uwe?
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i have said this before but i don't see what all the grief is about neck dive. man up and play your bass and let guitar players and momma's boys worry about such stuff. :P
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It's a really big deal to me. I have no problem playing a 10 lb. bass if it's well balanced but I'll sell a lighter bass if it dives. It's not just about comfort, it's about playability. The worst I ever had was my Fender Coronado Bass. It was light but if you took your hand off the neck it would dive and the bass would rotate outward. I won't put up with having to wrestle the bass in order to play it.
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I figure that I can often fix moderate neck dive - usually with the right strap - but I can't make a bass lighter. I have a 9.5 pound Jazz that's on the outer edge of the weight I'll work with. Fortunately Jazz basses balance well. Heavy AND neck diver would be an instant disqualification.
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I posted this because I've never found alleged neck heavy basses to be a problem at all, whether it's a Thunderbird, Ripper, EB4L, or LPB. A wide leather strap with suede backing, coupled with not wearing the bass too high equates to zero neck dive for me.
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I don't have any real worries with neck dive. The often mentioned wide strap with the rough (suede) back stop my T-birds from sliding around (not that they really do anyway).
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I posted this because I've never found alleged neck heavy basses to be a problem at all, whether it's a Thunderbird, Ripper, EB4L, or LPB. A wide leather strap with suede backing, coupled with not wearing the bass too high equates to zero neck dive for me.
That works by transferring some of the imbalance to your body. If that works for you, more power to you. It doesn't work for me. I want the bass to be balanced to begin with.
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It doesn't work for me. I want the bass to be balanced to begin with.
No Gibsons for you.
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:mrgreen:
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I've always felt that Dave has a distiinct Fender bias...
Mark... you don't think that nice pink smilie you use is girlie enough...? (no pleasin' some girls... :P)
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Sometimes I get neck heavy if I'm in a meeting with words like "quarterly blah blah...", "mandatory this or that", "employee engagement", or "methodology" in the title. Oh the head-dive!
Despite this ergonomic defect, I still keep myself around :)
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I've always felt that Dave has a distiinct Fender bias...
No. I like Fenders in general but I've played my share of unbalanced Fender basses, like the Coronado I mentioned.
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I suspect that Coronado wasn't a lot different than many hollowbody basses. Their bodies generally don't weigh a lot, so the necks - even short scale - tend to dive. I've worked on that with my Univox bass...it's not as bad as you describe the Coronado being.
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The Coronado was in a league of its own.
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I think the worse neck diver in my collection may be the JAck Casady epiphone. that 34" scale really adds to the problem. Nice thick suade strap and a small metal bar with holes drilled thru it (bought off ebay years ago) that adds about 1/2 inch or so to the string length have both helped somewhat. But it can be a fight. my hollow univox has the same problem as pilgrim bu the JC is worse.
Like Dave i am more of a fender style man and i have had a few that had issues. Especially some of the older really light resonant bodies but nothing compared to the hollow JC.
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That's Dave for ya - nothing but the best! ;)
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Same here; the JCS is the worst neckdiver I have.
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Interesting. Before I got my Casady, I'd heard differing reports of its propensity for neck dive. Mine isn't bad - a grippy strap takes care of it easily. I got lucky with that one, I guess.
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I guess so.
Mine has a strapbutton at the heel. I use a wide leather strap. But still it dives the moment you let go of the neck.
Actually I've been planning to install Gotoh GB528 res-o-lites to make the headstock lighter.
Maybe even re-cut the shape of the head to a Gibson shape. It might just tip the scale.
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mine has the heel button too. Let me know if the new tuners work. The stock ones are not that solid looking anyway but worth a try. used to use a gibson strap and it was out of control. the suede does help but it has issues with that bass and the 34 scale. my old 64 ebo is a little neck diver too but reasonable.
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The Coronado has the strap button sitting on top of the heel, not on the neck plate. That means it will try to rotate outward when you let go, no matter what you do about headstock weight.
Is the Casady like that?
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yeas top of the heal like my dano dc. same issue there too
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Now here's a nice idea from the last place you'd expect.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rarest-Soviet-bass-TONIKA-Sverdlovsk-USSR-/250649799305?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar&hash=item3a5be46a89#ht_2571wt_1137
The crappy Soviet-made Tonika (http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1006/1b/03eb29a7100dt.jpg) had a telescopic strap button.
(http://i057.radikal.ru/1006/cc/7ce4e2302335t.jpg)(http://i049.radikal.ru/1006/80/81938474129et.jpg)
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Actually not a bad idea - if it'll hold up.
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If it snaps as easily as the antenna on my car, it's a bad idea. 8)
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I'm sure the soviet made version probably would fail but made out of decent material it may work - it's still silly looking though.
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That's not a telescopic strap button, it's a Russian spy antenna!
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The 20/20 is balanced perfectly!! (That may be it's biggest strongpoint!) ;D