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Title: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Blazer on June 17, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
However this knock off might be an exception... (http://muziek.marktplaats.nl/snaarinstrumenten-gitaren-bas/172813499-ibanez-rickenbacker-4001-replica.html?return=eJxNjVEOgjAMQO9ion8wmEbMCDF4kwpTFrayrCUajHe3RD%2F86nsvaQumNC9nipqM1kezIQupG%2BqBORqlxilazAOkkaMHYMrRqzAvzo6ZxcwhcZqDRbaoCAHSf8nujiHJvAKprjpU%2BcDBn5%2B%2BKXc9NTxt92253V%2FiLFAIeLG20qcV9YqHSrB3gmtimYuLgnTr6Rsj%2F3aD9Bblc3Kd6PgQdVdAu4hNtN7QuxjnptjU7w%2BCu06I&df=1&fta=eNpNkl2O2zAMhO%2Bih30WSVE%2FFHKFXiFw1%2BnWqJMYkb0bbJC7V5IjtS%2BG%2FWE0w5E5iJdHyg%2B13ebj5zAnFfOnFXWfD%2FA2psN6FYjLJjrOIA59nFGccXGcJM6rfE9LTL%2FGJHFZs%2Ba8yGU7n27Te%2FzzJdPP4XL6jtc0Cb4ty3bQxd2IWoaPk4pTdk5CoqYxxw6CJI8pmyQJosCxQ6eRm25nNrDzUBh2xmTJusLoP2Ys1bOmM%2FCGwRTGjYFDm00Ls41pMkZT9XONkQuIpup8ZxZRQygsvJgFNMChMuhFgKmIK%2BxN0AOZl7JXQUbPvkZD68LMyDrUuaGX0cZRYKqQ%2F03uHIc6JbQ61hrWzu9BrY813uRR9yDfIXrytAf1RgTo%2FX4b2BpZJA4EO2yN2PpAvP8vxD68dsawV%2FGZciVR63UZxnScT5eP9XeRFk%2FQot632%2B04XcbTvdF8%2Fjzcj2VX8nqMdQlQ1PCl4o%2FX62dZGy2P5%2FMv5dW2WA%3D%3D&fta_ind=12&fs=1)
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Dave W on June 17, 2008, 11:44:24 AM
You must be referring to the neck pickup placement.

The real mystery is why anyone would want to slap. ;)
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: SKATE RAT on June 17, 2008, 06:11:19 PM
slap an ass not your bass!
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: drbassman on June 18, 2008, 04:26:39 AM
You must be referring to the neck pickup placement.

The real mystery is why anyone would want to slap. ;)

Ditto and amen!   :)
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: godofthunder on June 18, 2008, 04:57:57 AM
 No slap happy here ! I use a pick  ;D sometimes my fingers
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: drbassman on June 18, 2008, 05:31:39 AM
I only use my fingers, but I'm trying to re-learn using a pick  (haven't used one since 1974).  Some songs just sound better with a pick!  Now if I could just hold onto it!!!
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: ramone57 on June 18, 2008, 07:23:39 AM
when I first started playing, I would hammer the strings with my thumb and thought it sounded pretty cool, but never considered trying to pull it off during a jam or anything.  later I found out it was called slapping but I never tried to incorporate it into my playing.   I'm mostly a finger guy but I do use a pick from time to time.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Blazer on June 18, 2008, 06:08:35 PM
You must be referring to the neck pickup placement.

The real mystery is why anyone would want to slap. ;)

Maybe because people like THESE guys make it sound so cool?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbhxB7cGbw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHU9udnjQvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyUY9A057JI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKfhWdyJlOw
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Dave W on June 18, 2008, 09:06:12 PM
Cool to you, godawful to me.

All a matter of taste.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: ilan on June 18, 2008, 10:16:51 PM
Who says you can't slap a Ric? This guy does it with style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF02j2tjoEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8y-IEAeVHM

This guy MarloweDK has 260 videos on YouTube, many of them are worth checking out (link (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=MarloweDK&page=3))
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Dave W on June 19, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
I will never, ever like slap, no matter what.

To each his own.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: uwe on June 19, 2008, 11:25:45 AM
I just can't do it well, so I'm not doing it at all. Thank God it went out of style at the end of the eighties after a decade of hammering.

This wise man too say you can slap with Lickenbackel just fine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QfmxD4npmM
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: chromium on June 19, 2008, 03:20:11 PM
Slappin' Rics is super freaky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoJ8QPTDODY

(http://www.thecriticscorner.com/JustTheFacts/RickJamesStreet-Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: SKATE RAT on June 19, 2008, 08:52:16 PM
That Ric was just for pictures,etc.. the bass you actually hear is a Musicman Stingray
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: chromium on June 20, 2008, 11:29:22 AM
That Ric was just for pictures,etc.. the bass you actually hear is a Musicman Stingray

Awww man.  Now I feel cheated.  That's it - I'm retruning my Rick James box set >:(
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: SKATE RAT on June 20, 2008, 06:25:13 PM
did Rick James have enough songs for a box set??
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: chromium on June 20, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
did Rick James have enough songs for a box set??

 ;D I dunno.  I don't really have a box set. 

Most of what I learned about RJ is from Dave Chapelle

(http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/chappelle1.jpg)
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: nofi on June 22, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
slapping is some silly shite. mainly because you have to totally 'de-ball ' your bass tone to get that wankety wank treble tortured piano affect. at that point you turn into a demented banjo player. it's still popular at the music store bass tryouts, however. but i wish it would go away. far away.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Blazer on June 23, 2008, 06:32:20 PM
slapping is some silly shite. mainly because you have to totally 'de-ball ' your bass tone to get that wankety wank treble tortured piano affect. at that point you turn into a demented banjo player. it's still popular at the music store bass tryouts, however. but i wish it would go away. far away.

OH FOR GOD'S SAKE!

I started this thread to discuss a modified Rickenbacker knock off, not to bash people who stick out their thumbs and Slap. So Away with it already, Dave, could you please lock this thread, this isn't fun anymore.

And for good measure, Rick James was a compitent Bassplayer but on his albums and on his live performances it was Oscar Alston's job te keep the low end going. Dave Chapelle's Rick james impersonations aren't really that accurate of the real man, who was quoted saying that Oscar Aslton was the man responcible for all his succes, being able to channel what James wanted to put forward with his bassplaying. Chapelle only points out the over the top persona, not the gentler side of Rick James the human who respected his musicians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0UD9oF9ts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLGjIrGTFsE
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: HornetAMX on June 23, 2008, 06:50:39 PM
I bought my first Rick James album when I was 16.  It was "Come Get It!" I think.  I loved the song "You And I" and "Mary Jane."  It would be cool if we could ever hear some of the stuff he recorded with Neil Young and Bruce Palmer. 

And for the record, I love slapping.  But I grew up on Brothers Johnson, Slave, Rose Royce, Sun, GQ, Instant Funk, Mass Production, T Connection, etc, etc.  These are the bands that got me into playing bass.  And while I'm no great slapper I have to do it in my band.  We do a lot of funk material from the 70's.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: Dave W on June 23, 2008, 07:45:47 PM
No need to lock it. Threads do have a way of going off on their own and slapping does bring out strong feelings. Wouldn't be much fun if we all had the same opinions.
Title: Re: They say that you can't play slap on rickenbacker...
Post by: uwe on July 01, 2008, 03:11:10 AM
I've seen him live slapping on that Ric (or one just like it). He wasn't a great technician, but he did it with aplomb and even, yes, taste.

While I never slap, I think it can add something if it is done not too fast, not all the time and at the right place. And I prefer if it sounds dirty and with a lot of human factor as opposed to Mark King's "sequencer style". BTW, John Entwistle's style towards his later years wasn't that far removed from slapping as regards both his sound and his "typewriter technique".