Hey, anybody can ridicule my music tastes all they want!!! I'm used to it since school and totally immune to it. As a contrarian, there is nothing worse than the band you really like becoming truly popular. In 10th to 13th grade in school, I was commonly referred to as "Hard & Heavy Uwe" because I'd be listening to Purple, Quo, Judas Priest, Kiss, Uriah Heep, The Dictators, Scorpions, Rory Gallagher, New York Dolls, Alice Cooper, Johnny Winter, Ted Nugent, Rainbow, Whitesnake, BÖC, Runaways, Nazareth, UFO, Sweet and Suzi Quatro +
jawohl, even the Ramones while everybody else was digging Pink Floyd, Supertramp, CSN&Y, Yes, Bob Dylan, Mike Oldfield, Genesis and Jethro Tull - , more "adult", proggish or folkish rock (I actually heard that too and liked it, but it didn't move me like hard rock).
I know lots of people who don't get the Ramones. Most women don't, they think they're, surprise, samey (now how unjust!) and somewhat silly. Same with Motörhead - let's face it, Lemmy couldn't sing, women are bothered by that. What the Ramones and Motörhead share is the larger than life comic book iconic visual image that transcends anything they ever did musically. That doesn't make them culturally less relevant. I'm happy they are a part of rock history even though Motörhead live (I saw them three times, with Philthy and Fast Eddie, with Brian Robertson and the final line-up) could be an unforgiving barrage of just noise.
And I disagree, Dave, Joey R wasn't a mindless lyricist. Stuff like "the KKK took my baby away" because your politically right-leaning guitarist is suddenly dating your former girlfriend as the left-leaning singer shows some tongue in cheek insight.
Jake is a (lovable) loudmouth and regularly mocking people here for what he perceives as uncool dinosaur boring old fart rock, I fall into that latter category myself. I think it's refreshing and offers a different perspective. Ditto for posting a Lizzo vid, why the hell not? Besides he now likes Birth Control, so it's not like he's not learning something from us old men.
Peace now! It's 45 years since the Ramones debut was released, culture wars are over.