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Title: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 07:12:38 AM
Can Ritchie be far behind?
And holding a white snake?
(https://i.imgur.com/D1NRZjw.jpg)
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2022, 08:50:31 AM
 :o JLT?
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
:o JLT?

In the flesh (cough cough).
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 11:11:35 AM
The garden state snake singer! Actually, he looks kind of cool that way.

Wig or no wig, Joe doesn‘t look anywhere near as cringeworthy as Coverdale does by now.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 12:30:37 PM
The song doesn't do anything for me - for a guy with such a great soulful voice, he always seems to eschew the stuff that (IMHO) suits him best in favor of either bland pop or, in this case, overblown metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTW37kr67kM
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: Alanko on August 25, 2022, 01:38:43 PM
Who is this effeminate slaphead?
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 03:03:55 PM
An American former singer of some unimportant Brit band known for only one silly song really though this isn't it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR5YqaKLYWU

Neither is this one, but still a great track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0LWL0Vc9p8

With stints in other irrelevant bands ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByGwgm_vRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDIthhz_rUE

He also wrote a minor hit (a bit in the BÖC mode) for your Scottish fellow kilt wearer Brian C:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ScKxbmkFRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe04MIUtmIk

Finally responsible for a cult favorite AOR album together with Al Greenwood of Foreigner and Bobby Messano of Starz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69hzU5AGGA

Joe has had alopecia since he was a child, Purple and Rainbow fans have been aware of this for quite some time, sort of if you were a Priest fan and not deaf, dumb and blind (plus hopelessly obsessive straight) you knew already in the late 70ies that the only women that played a role in Rob Halford's life were his mom and his sis. Joe's now come out with his hair loss. What you see in the vids above are his assortments of wigs through the years.

I'm not aware that he's gay (and just as happy if that is his personal life style choice or destiny), he's from New Jersey, they don't have that there, he's had that black nail polish for years. The bald promo shot with the juvenile white ball python is also a (not so) small dig at David Coverdale. Some years ago, Joe acccused David of using live backing pre-recordings for his vocals with Whitesnake (and I believe he was right, Coverdale has been struggling for a while and I've seen weird things happen at WS gigs too). David hit back with a real cheap shot, first denying the use of pre-recordings and then adding "What's next, will he accuse me of wearing a wig on stage?" I thought that incredibly low and petty given that Joe had a condition.

So we have a little intra-Purple alumni strife at our hands!

I think Joe looks better bald than with his fake 80ies style hairdo, but if you suffer from alopecia wigs become second nature I guess. I also think that by now there are more effeminate looking ex-Deep Purple singers than Joe ...

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWt2WLkDuz9FFsYSUsJJE1QzdV9bzAHDYEjP2Pyo7V021rS5LcdN8_c7LOsia4CI8hZgk&usqp=CAU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0zNA0kVyM


Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 04:08:37 PM
The song doesn't do anything for me - for a guy with such a great soulful voice, he always seems to eschew the stuff that (IMHO) suits him best in favor of either bland pop or, in this case, overblown metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTW37kr67kM

Sigh, it's run of the mill Yuropean landfill melodic metal, Joe gets asked (and paid) to do this stuff all the time, granted that Rainbow has some DNA responsibility for this kind of stuff. What I do like about it though is that his lyrics are always very audible, not many heavy singers can do that or have you ever tried to understand  what Robert Plant actually sings about on Led Zep songs?   :mrgreen:

It's easy to make fun of Joe - not because of his affliction, but because of his overt Sopranos big mouth come-on (he was born Joseph Linquito in Hackensack, NJ) and his horrible stage raps, but, yes, the man can still sing, he's 71!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_1P43JT04

And that wig was starting to look real crap, leave it off, Joe, you have a nice pate.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: Basvarken on August 25, 2022, 04:18:19 PM
Glad he got rid of that ridiculous wig. He looks so much better without it than Coverdale with his 80's perm.
Plus his voice has held up much better than Coverdale over the years...
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 04:43:18 PM
He's finally given up trying to look like Rolf Magnus Joakim Larsson!***


*** aka Joey Tempest
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 04:59:52 PM
I'm not aware that he's gay (and happy if that is his personal life choice), he's from New Jersey, they don't have that there, he's had that black nail polish for years.\

I think he's on his second wife - I believe she's a lawyer from Minsk.
I grew up in the one town over from Hackensack, so running into Joe was not uncommon over the years, whether is be seeing his band Ezra at high school dances in the 70s, at rehearsal studios, or when getting his car fixed (a Mazda 626, of all things) the repair shop where I worked in the 80s. As another Bergen County native, Bobby Messano frequented that establishment as well. My wife was a big Rainbow/JLT fan before I met her, so we rarely missed his shows when he was in the area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwl3bvOqM68
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 05:13:24 PM
He was always a good musician - his stint with Purple is regularly derided, but I thought neither the album nor the tour were bad. Ritchie finally got what he wanted in 1973 already when he drove Ian Gillan out of the band and tried to get Paul Rodgers in. A blues rock Purple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBFuG8mdis

And he can do Dio justice as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyifxfswBLw
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 05:16:58 PM
Sigh, it's run of the mill Yuropean landfill melodic metal, Joe gets asked (and paid) to do this stuff all the time, granted that Rainbow has some DNA responsibility for this kind of stuff. What I do like about it though is that his lyrics are always very audible, not many heavy singers can do that or have you ever tried to understand  what Robert Plant actually sings about on Led Zep songs?   :mrgreen:

Several years back, Joe recorded an album's worth of material written by yet another North Jersey native, guitarist Scott Rolaf. Whatever their arrangement was for Joe's performance, they were not on the same page ultimately, because Rolaf made the material available free of charge on the internet. Joe was apparently unsatisfied with the final product and its distribution and made his feelings known. Rolaf, likewise, told his side of the story in interviews. In terms of how the songs fit his voice, I think that it was probably some of the best material he had recorded since Rainbow. Not heavy metal and not really poppy, either, it was well-written, soulful AOR fare - and I have no reason to praise Scott Rolaf other than the stuff was catchy as hell. Listen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFy4xoOZx4o
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 08:43:49 PM
That even has some of the old Fandango vibe, very nice. It could have indeed used a better mix though, sounds like someone left the dolby noise reduction button on with a third generation rip-off tape.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2022, 03:37:56 AM
He's obviously skinned the snake and turned it into a jacket ...

(https://www.ehtrend.com.br/en/img/US_lnk_LdXqbwEwAADGCM_en.jpg)

Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: gearHed289 on August 26, 2022, 07:46:22 AM
He looks good. Happy for him. Great singer. I saw that cheap shot that grandma Coverdale threw at him years ago. Petty dick move. Old rock stars are so fragile, it's embarrassing to read about sometimes.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: lowend1 on August 26, 2022, 08:54:23 AM
That even has some of the old Fandango vibe, very nice. It could have indeed used a better mix though, sounds like someone left the dolby noise reduction button on with a third generation rip-off tape.

Well, that was part of the issue. Here's a link to a thread on "The Highway Star" with both sides personally articulated in the main post (by JLT) and subsequently, the comments section (by Rolaf and others). We report, you decide...
https://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2011/08/02/jlts-open-letter/
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: ilan on August 26, 2022, 08:54:32 AM
I saw DP with Joe Lynn Turner. I wish I hadn't.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: Alanko on August 26, 2022, 09:54:27 AM
Did Joe and Blackmore use the same wig fitter back in the day?


It's a bold look. I've been shaving my head since I was 25 or so, so I'm all for it!
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2022, 10:57:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFoLdeqG1I

I do wonder how public this was when Joe joined Rainbow. Blackmore probably didn't mind Joe's wig (given his own legendary hair weave which was then quite new), but he would have never allowed him to front Rainbow bald. Blackers was obsessed with long hair as part of the hard rock image then - Joe's predecessor Graham Bonnet with his neat James Dean crop caught flak for not letting his hair grow longer.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSv0bJp0c70yKLjbYnUgR0eSBnMFG5q-p1bA&usqp=CAU)

And Reb Beach is on record for stating in an interview that as a Whitesnake member you are not allowed to have grey hair by orders of the boss. Or short hair, only the chick bassist (badly pasted in on this pic) is allowed to have an undercut of sorts.

(https://dynamicmedia.livenationinternational.com/Media/v/e/m/f4dcd42f-6c13-4c5c-bd3e-311c352c1860.png)

All very silly and insecure. When Halford cut his hair short with Priest in 1978 or so, I immediately liked the look. It set him and the band apart.

(https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2016/02/priest1.jpg?w=980&q=75)

Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2022, 01:36:10 PM
I saw DP with Joe Lynn Turner. I wish I hadn't.

I heard the bootleg recording of that gig, Hebrew introduction and all (it was a radio show I believe), I think it was the last one of that particular line-up and the writing was on the wall already - and not because it took place in the Holy Land! Glover, Lord and Paice + the management wanted Gillan back, Blackmore was the only one loyal to Turner, but losing his once iron grip on the band. The planned US tour had failed to ignite audiences and was shelved; the Purple organisation wasn't making money. Covert advances were made to Blackmore with extra money and a future Rainbow reunion to coax him into letting Ian Gillan return while no one was talking to Joe. Not a happy gig then.

I had seen them at the second Hammersmith gig in London some months before (they played three nights there), that was a good one and the line-up then stll thought it had a future. Blackmore was obviously enjoying Turner's singing & company and therefore at ease with himself, something he very rarely was with DP on stage throughout their career. That gave the gig a Dire Straits'y atmosphere, but it was musically fulfilling if you ignored some of Joe's more cringeworthy mannerisms.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: Basvarken on August 26, 2022, 01:38:09 PM
Okay, who's next?

Doogie White?
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/doogie-white-05a32107-a229-479d-a7da-bad51d174c1-resize-750.jpeg)

John Norum?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdBmQ-uetnjlmldqfKJ6SEUoN2NCQ8ivfmOQ&usqp=CAU)

Minstrel Blackmore?
(https://townsquare.media/site/366/files/2015/04/Ritchie-Blackmore.jpg)

Little Ian?
(https://i.discogs.com/yopJ40xN_MaoTEuo2rBCquGs6NVyXnv0xIItAvDsl_o/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:400/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTI2MTYz/NS0xNjQ4MjI2NzQy/LTQ1MzEuanBlZw.jpeg)

Paul Rodgers?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Queen_2005_1010006.JPG)

Gene Simmons?
(https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/gene_simmons_headshot_a_p.jpg?w=3000)


Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: ilan on August 27, 2022, 01:02:39 AM
I heard the bootleg recording of that gig, Hebrew introduction and all (it was a radio show I believe)

They played two dates, what you heard was the second, which was a disaster ending with Blackmore leaving the stage and refusing to play an encore. I was at the first show.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 09:18:14 AM
Leaving stage in a huff, the ole diva did that so often I lost count. Bang! and the Strat goes out of the pram. The Miles Davis of hard rock guitar.
Title: Re: Well, Uwe, he finally did it...
Post by: ilan on August 29, 2022, 02:00:47 AM
The Miles Davis of hard rock guitar.

Nailed it.