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Gear Discussion Forums => Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs => Topic started by: slinkp on August 09, 2015, 06:02:04 AM
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Hi all,
I know some people here have done builds with the Warwick 2-piece bridge, right?
I gather from some old threads that if built on a bass with a straight (not angled back) neck, you need to route the body to prevent the bridge sitting too high. Is that true?
I like the 2-piece look, and reputedly they're quite adjustable (string spacing too). Anything else similar I should be looking at?
(https://shop.warwick.de/sys/tools/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?&w=170&h=170&far=1&bg=ffffff&src=../../../%2FArtikelbilder%2FWarwick_Part%2FSP_W_30117_4S%2FW-30117_4P.png)
Price looks decent if they ship to the US...
(it may be over 10 years ruminating in my brain but I will get a custom slink-bass built one of these years dammit)
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No image... I presume you meanthese bits...? (http://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_bridge_30115_4b.htm)
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It's the bridge used by Gibson on some older LP basses. Used a couple in builds and I like them. No angle will require a shallow rout.
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Yes, you would need to route with a non-angled neck. Only way to avoid it would be to build your neck with a thick enough heel to raise the fretboard higher off the body. The slothead EB-0/EB-3 were built that way, so were the SGs from the same couple of years.
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Thanks guys. Yes, that's the one, not sure how I messed up the link. Is there anything with a similar design that doesn't need a route?
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With Warwicks, both tailpiece and bridge have routings:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3ZkMWV9pyRU/maxresdefault.jpg)
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My favorite bridge is the Schaller roller bridge. The saddles are adjustable sideways as well as height. Can be use on just about any bass with wide or narrow string spacing. I get them off an eBay seller for around $58 bucks. No routing needed, works like a Fender bridge.
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My favorite bridge is the Schaller roller bridge. The saddles are adjustable sideways as well as height. Can be use on just about any bass with wide or narrow string spacing. I get them off an eBay seller for around $58 bucks. No routing needed, works like a Fender bridge.
True. It does have a lower profile than a Fender bridge, but since he's designing a custom bass he can make allowances for it. Stew-Mac is more expensive ($75) but they order them from Schaller with a separate. 3mm thick shim/baseplate.
With Warwicks, both tailpiece and bridge have routings:
Yes, and that's typical. Same thing would be true with a tune-o-matic on a guitar. If the bridge needs routing, the tailpiece will have to be or there won't be enough down pressure on the bridge saddles.
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Don't recall using a shim. Are you saying the shim is needed to give it the same height as a standard Fender bridge?
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Duesenberg makes a nice two piece bridge combination.
Bridge has saddles that are height adjustable.
(https://kitarablogi.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/duesenberg-d-bass-e28093-bridge.jpg?w=300&h=225)
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Duesenberg makes a nice two piece bridge combination.
Bridge has saddles that are height adjustable.
(https://kitarablogi.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/duesenberg-d-bass-e28093-bridge.jpg?w=300&h=225)
That's nice. Do they sell them?
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Yes they do.
I bought a set at Tonefactory.nl, a Dutch webstore for guitar and bass parts.
http://www.tonefactory.nl/gitaar-bas-parts/bruggen/basgitaarbruggen-en-onderdelen?p=4
But I'm sure stores in the USA have them too.
They have them in different widths for different string spacing.
A nice feature is that the studs are locked down to prevent tilt if you raise the bridge higher.
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Don't recall using a shim. Are you saying the shim is needed to give it the same height as a standard Fender bridge?
Most sellers don't order them with the shim. Stew-Mac does. Not sure about the standard Fender bridge height since my only Fender bass now is the rascal with the 90s Guild bridge. But the Schaller is pretty low.
Duesenberg makes a nice two piece bridge combination.
Bridge has saddles that are height adjustable.
(https://kitarablogi.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/duesenberg-d-bass-e28093-bridge.jpg?w=300&h=225)
Nice looking. The question for slinkp would be if it's low enough to be used on a non-angled neck without routing.
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Depends how high the fingerboard protrudes from the body.
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Most sellers don't order them with the shim. Stew-Mac does. Not sure about the standard Fender bridge height since my only Fender bass now is the rascal with the 90s Guild bridge. But the Schaller is pretty low.
Nice looking. The question for slinkp would be if it's low enough to be used on a non-angled neck without routing.
I'll do some measuring and we'll see.
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Yes they do.
I bought a set at Tonefactory.nl, a Dutch webstore for guitar and bass parts.
http://www.tonefactory.nl/gitaar-bas-parts/bruggen/basgitaarbruggen-en-onderdelen?p=4
But I'm sure stores in the USA have them too.
They have them in different widths for different string spacing.
A nice feature is that the studs are locked down to prevent tilt if you raise the bridge higher.
It's a nice looking bridge. Not cheap though. I like Scott's bridge better for its vintage looks.
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Depends how high the fingerboard protrudes from the body.
I figured so. This one does look nicer to me than the Warwick, but slinkp might run into the same situation as with the Warwick.
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I do like the look of Scott's bridge a lot too, and the Duesenberg too. Thanks, I didn't know about that one.
But... hmm. One of the appealing things about Warwick is adjusting the string spacing.
I've tweaked my LPB1 to slightly narrower than Fender width (I have not attempted to measure it) and I like that spacing a lot.
Speaking of which, Dr. B mentioned the Schaller roller bridge. This one?
(http://www.stewmac.com/product/images/353/Schaller_4-String_Roller_Bass_Bridge.jpg)
That looks a lot like the bridge on the LPB1! Is it the same?
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But... hmm. One of the appealing things about Warwick is adjusting the string spacing.
I've tweaked my LPB1 to slightly narrower than Fender width (I have not attempted to measure it) and I like that spacing a lot.
The Duesenberg bridge has width adjustable saddles too.
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I do like the look of Scott's bridge a lot too, and the Duesenberg too. Thanks, I didn't know about that one.
But... hmm. One of the appealing things about Warwick is adjusting the string spacing.
I've tweaked my LPB1 to slightly narrower than Fender width (I have not attempted to measure it) and I like that spacing a lot.
Speaking of which, Dr. B mentioned the Schaller roller bridge. This one?
(http://www.stewmac.com/product/images/353/Schaller_4-String_Roller_Bass_Bridge.jpg)
That looks a lot like the bridge on the LPB1! Is it the same?
Yes, that's the Schaller Gibson used on some LP basses. A great bridge for the money.
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There's also the Schaller 2000 which is a newer design that hasn't caught on as much as the Schaller roller bridge but has an even wider range of string spacing adjustment. It's also low profile. I had one on a bass I later sold with its original bridge; I sold the 2000 to Ken for one of his projects.
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I think if I go with a one-piece bridge I will probably use the new-old-stock Gotoh 206 I have in a drawer here...
like this one but chrome:
(http://archive.gibson.com/Files/productImages/valleyArts/CustomProBass/Bridge.jpg)
I didn't know much about it when I got it, but it was $31 in the box on ebay and it also allows adjusting width.
The photo shows it rear-loaded but you can also top-load it, which I would do.