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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: uwe on January 18, 2011, 08:30:52 AM
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I found this pic of a solitary black TB at NAMM 2011. Are my eyes deceiving me or has the front jack returned, but the pickguard and the center block gone? Or has the Shavo Signature model seen a release after all, now that System of Down are reconvening for some summer gigs? This certainly looks like some metalist had a say in the look. And has the front pup edged forward a little?
(http://www.geartalk.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_1868.jpg)
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Could be a mini-switch.
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Plus malaligned pots
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Could be a mini-switch.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Shavo turned out active, that just goes with that type of music.
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The headstock looks like it's slightly different than I'm used to seeing but maybe that's because it's all black.
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Shame they won't give it a better bridge.
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It might be a kill switch too, Shavo has played with the idea in the past:
What is the story with your new Gibson Signature bass?
For the last year and a half, I’ve been working with Gibson to design a Shavo bass. I just got the first prototype a few weeks ago. It’s my idea of what a bass should be. I used a 1976 headstock because it’s bigger and has more body. It has neck-through-body construction, but I changed the neck so it feels like this Jazz Bass neck that I like. It also has a toggle switch on it so I can hold a note with my left hand and cut the sound on and off with my right hand like a DJ would do with a fader. The tone is already set the way I like it, so it doesn’t have any tone knobs—just two big volume knobs for the bridge and neck pickups. If you like the sound, you’re going to buy it. I didn’t put my name all over it. It’s just a cool-looking bass that sounds great.
I’m already working on a second model, which is a five-string fretless bass. It’s the perfect bass for what I’m playing with Achozen right now, which is more hip-hop-oriented. The System bass is a regular four-string, and the Achozen bass is a five-string fretless.
The pictured model seems to feature a tone knob (the strange alignment is probably intentional) and the headstock is not a large vintage one though but that might be compromises for the envisaged wider market.
(http://static.ulike.net/img/01_Shavo_Odadjian.jpg)
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Looks like a "Studio" headstock..........Makes you wonder if thats what's really going on there ;)
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Looks like a "Studio" headstock..........
Kind of what I was thinking. It looks pointier than standard ones. Also, this Shavo guy is wrong in my opinion. It's NOT a cool looking bass.
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Yes, it looks like the deleted Studio headstocks of yore. Traditionalists will gasp, but I did not think these too bad, but then I always liked the Victory headstock too.
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Still waiting for those NRs...........................I hear they are in the works.
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I was just pondering if Gibson was going to reissue the Thunderbird Studio 5-string since Dethklok made it popular. Maybe they will in time? Gibson's bass department always has the worst luck of what will be popular and when people decide to notice what they do.
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There was absolutely no reason why the Studio TBird line failed. It was affordable, good quality, looked different, had gently modernized the TBird concept and catered to 5 stringers with an instrument with a B string as mighty as the Normandy invasion. Baffles me how no one bought it.
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I liked the studios, I couldn't find a trans cherry one and then just like that they were gone.
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They can still be had reasonably on Ebay from time to time.
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Not wishing to retread overfamiliar ground here, far from it, Scott, (insert angelic smiley here), but you are aware that these instruments have very good upper fretboard access as is, just in case you never saw one ...
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I did actually play one (black) at the HOG, $750 out the door ;) but I really like the trans cherry, I was hoping they would get one in. I tried to order through MF a couple of times and all they had was black so I kept waiting and then they were gone.
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They should just build a big-headstocked, big-tunered, chrome-festooned PROPER Thunderbird already. I'm sure that if they really tried (meaning pulling some R&D staff off their jobs inspecting somebody's old LP for fly crap from the 60s) they could find a way to build a faithful reissue that wouldn't lose its head (literally). With all the reinforcing techniques and materials they have nowadays...
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They should just build a big-headstocked, big-tunered, chrome-festooned PROPER Thunderbird already. I'm sure that if they really tried (meaning pulling some R&D staff off their jobs inspecting somebody's old LP for fly crap from the 60s) they could find a way to build a faithful reissue that wouldn't lose its head (literally). With all the reinforcing techniques and materials they have nowadays...
Carbon fiber reinforcement in the heel area with or without a volute would do it. The original 1 less fret clear of the body design and Resolites would be a big help with neck dive. And NICKEL hardware like the originals.
IMO there just isn't enough of a market to justify it. Most (younger) bass players are very happy with the modern 'bird and variations. They even put up with the less than ideal bridge (just set a few up and compare them to ANYTHING else available for accuracy and ease compared to that 3 teat wonder).
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One day I will give an online course on "setting up the three point - easily and perfectly!". There seems to be much demand for it. :)
There is nothing you cannot do with that bridge - at worst you need to swap saddles, at the very worst you need to file the notches a bit deeper.
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One day I will give an online course on "setting up the three point - easily and perfectly!". There seems to be much demand for it. :)
There is nothing you cannot do with that bridge - at worst you need to swap saddles, at the very worst you need to file the notches a bit deeper.
You just confirmed my post "at worst you need to swap saddles, at the very worst you need to file the notches a bit deeper." Saddles are meant to provide proper string fall off for best tone, when you file them you compromise their efficiency. It's a solution that's not acceptable in a well designed instrument.
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I did actually play one (black) at the HOG, $750 out the door ;) but I really like the trans cherry, I was hoping they would get one in. I tried to order through MF a couple of times and all they had was black so I kept waiting and then they were gone.
At least HOG had one in stock. I never saw one at a store, and I suspect very few stores ever took a chance on stocking them. When you come out with something new, you have to get it in stores so people can try it. It's hard to generate a mass market for something like this off online sales alone.
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" Three teat wonder " LMAO I have to agree with Carlo the 3 point is a piece of P.O.S. The more you file the less tension on the string, it is at it's worst on the E string. I have always called it the "turdomatic"
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One day I will give an online course on "setting up the three point - easily and perfectly!". There seems to be much demand for it. :)
There is nothing you cannot do with that bridge - at worst you need to swap saddles, at the very worst you need to file the notches a bit deeper.
Other bridges can do just as much and people don't need online courses to figure them out.
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One day I will give an online course on "setting up the three point - easily and perfectly!". There seems to be much demand for it. :)
There is nothing you cannot do with that bridge - at worst you need to swap saddles, at the very worst you need to file the notches a bit deeper.
I think most just don't get them.......Mine all work great with low action the way I like and sustain forever if I want, all I had to do was give them to Lull for a set up, so I don't get the comments.
Some end shots.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/bridge3.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/bridge1.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/bridge4.jpg)
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I probably own more three-point bridges on basses than most people here do. :P I had a handful of cases where I had to file the slots deeper (never on new saddles, too high saddles were mostly an issue of the seventies), I'd say one out of 10 at the most, my singlecut prototype Ripper from the early seventies and my LP Signature come to mind. Both are basses where the neck is set too low and the bridges feature ultra-high seventies saddles hence the issue with the filing (which you wouldn't be able to do on most other bridges, so you'd be stuck).
Your issues are beyond me. I'm a no-buzz, perfect intonation, low action (but totally buzz free) OBSESSIVE, yet setting up a three point never fills me with dread, I have yet to encounter one I could not get to work, that did not have sufficient intonation range, did not accomodate my desired action etc ... The only three point I ever replaced was the one on the Blackbird and I did that just to give the Hipshot replacement a try (which is in no respect significantly better, who needs a TBird with a little more sustain when the bass is already very "sustainy" as is), the original bridge was fine. I've never had an issue with saddle pressure (even in the few cases where I had to file).
What I do like about the three-point ist that all you need is a regular size screwdriver for intonation and a man-size one
(http://www.roseantiquetools.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/genesd.jpg)
for the studs and you're all set. Everything is freely accessible and you have all the torque in the world adjusting, no fidgety easily lost hex keys in weird sizes that get gorged.
The three-point, comrades, is the Stormovik, T-34 or Kalaschnikow of bridges!!! Fool-proof even in winter offensives.
(http://de.academic.ru/pictures/dewiki/73/Il2_sturmovik.jpg)
(http://www.der-bossi.de/panzerdiesel/t34/images/t34_1.jpg)
(http://www.paintball-shopping.de/images/1001086g.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI
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Uwe, While you may own more Gibsons than most of us I have been playing Gibsons with all the associated bridges for over 30 years and in the course of those 30 plus years have owned possibly as many Gibsons as you have at the moment . We have a difference of opinion, You like 'em, I don't. The only reason I don't remove them on sight these days is I don't want to devalue a vintage bass. 2000 up is fair game. ;D
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I think that most of us who work on our Tbirds probably feel that there are better solutions when it comes to bridges. I agree with Scott, if it came on the bass I deal with it, but designing on a blank piece of paper there are much better solutions. There were no problems with the original bridge except its location and possibly being 1/8" (3mm) too little adjustment fore and aft. Instead of fixing that with the first RI they chose to plop on the 3 point.
Dave said it all too well, you shouldn't need a tutorial to adjust a bridge.
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The tutorial offer was irony, I should have used italics! :rolleyes:
I like them mostly for the fact that they are comfortable handrests, look like no other bridge (so does the Ric bridge, but that is a beast to adjust and doesn't offer the same range) and look right on a Gibson just like a Fender bridge does on a P or J. I have yet to see a bridge that looks better on a TBird. Sturdy, but at the same time light in design, you can even dust the bass' surface underneath! :mrgreen: And the simpicity, yet workability of the design appeals to me. No, you can't adjust string spacing, but who needs that with the magnetic field of Gibson pups, especially the TB Plus ones?
Of course it's not a state of the art bridge, it's an almost forty year old concept. But neither is the TBird as such with its lousy upper register access which wouldn't be acceptable these days or the oversize headstock.
I'm always intrigued by new bridge concepts and if Gibson brought out a TBird with monorails as a bridge I'd buy it just for that.
I have no issues with the old sixties bridges except that I like that the three-point doesn't cover up as much of the bass and has the string-thru-body option (which Gibson never applied with the TBirds for whatever reason!).
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Some end shots.
Whew. I was almost afraid to scroll down... ;D
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I have a beautiful heine......................... ;D
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No doubt you can adjust the three point to get low action, assuming the neck is set right etc. Still, I'll take a two point with separate tailpiece or a beefed up Fender style bridge-tailpiece combo anytime.
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(http://oi56.tinypic.com/2da0t1t.jpg)
I'll make a case for better looking bridge on a T-bird on mine!
I have a degree in Bird Butchering at the God of Thunder School of Lutherie, after all.
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That came out nice!
I don't recall seeing a pic of it all finished, nice work.
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That came out great, Nik! I like the Warwick bridges, and it really fits the look nicely there.
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Nice looking 'Bird, Nik... any of Scott inspirations are worthy of more than a glance... ;)
re the original posting - some folks dig black, some chrome, some gold... to each their own...
SOAD - love them, and their stance on promoting the memory of a certain political event is admirable...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJmt3dr9XYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiTbkpbnUs
If SOAD reform I hope they produce something a bit more akin to their first three and not the last "package" which lost some of their originality imho (ie I hope Tankian gets a fair crack of the writings)
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Nice looking 'Bird, Nik... any of Scott inspirations are worthy of more than a glance... ;)
re the original posting - some folks dig black, some chrome, some gold... to each their own...
SOAD - love them, and their stance on promoting the memory of a certain political event is admirable...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJmt3dr9XYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiTbkpbnUs
If SOAD reform I hope they produce something a bit more akin to their first three and not the last "package" which lost some of their originality imho (ie I hope Tankian gets a fair crack of the writings)
That was was a perfect CD. The guitarist became an egomaniac and thus the band went downhill. When he started singing they jumped the shark.
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I can do nothing but agree...
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I've got 6 or 7 of the 3 pointers and I've never had much trouble adjusting them. I did try something different when I completed this carcass a while back and it worked out nicely too............... Did someone say massive? I think it contributes to the sustain and it's got a lot of adjustment flexibility.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/2003%20TB%20Project/100_1936.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/2003%20TB%20Project/100_1922.jpg)
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I love the Supertone - got one on my EB-3. I'm planning some kind of T-Bird project - I may use one there as well.
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I am also fond of the Supertone, especially in CHROME ;D
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I found this pic of a solitary black TB at NAMM 2011. Are my eyes deceiving me or has the front jack returned, but the pickguard and the center block gone? Or has the Shavo Signature model seen a release after all, now that System of Down are reconvening for some summer gigs? This certainly looks like some metalist had a say in the look. And has the front pup edged forward a little?
(http://www.geartalk.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_1868.jpg)
None of us noticed. We all should be ashamed of ourselves. :-[ :-[ :-[ It only dawned on me now :-\ after reading that the new TB Shortscale won't have a pg and is satin black. Look how comparatively short that bass is hanging there beside those toy instruments they call guitars. :o Take a look at how deep the neck is set into the body: Not as deep as on a longscale, they have put it a fret or two farther out. And finally: I only noticed now how overall stubby that neck looks and how the bridge has edged forward into the body just a little.
So now we know: This is the shortscale TB. It's obviously aimed at the beginners and budget market (cheap fin, doesn't come with a case). Supposedly only a limited run of 400, but frankly I can't see this bass make commercial inroads with a lot of people.
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I can't see any short scale bass making commercial inroads with a lot of people. I'm surprised the SG Bass has done as well as it has, although it's still a small market.
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If it is a limited run of 400 then that isn't a major commitment from a large guitar company IMO. Of course, you have to find:
A) 400 people that want a short scale bass
B) 400 people that want a shortie TBird.
If the price is right, they will sell. Seems like there was more selling of the previous G.O.W. basses when the prices were reduced from their initial pricing.
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A chance to have a one of 400 short-scale T-Bird?
I'd be surprised if the whole inventory lasted a month.
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How long have TBird nerds been convening here? I never noticed much of an appetite for a short scale TBird even among the devoted much as there has never been much clamoring for long scale SG shape basses either. To me it's an oxymoron as both the sound and the look of a TBird are determined by that long neck, but of course I will get one! :mrgreen: Visually, I'm not all that excited, it now looks like an overweight Firebird to me whereas TBirds are inherently sleek and elegant basses.
The SG-Bass sells - I think - on a mix of heritage and practicability. It has that sixties/Jack Bruce mojo with it (or for younger generations: that Angus Young look) and it is a light and comfortable bass for a petite player, yet doesn't look like a toy or novelty item but has its own slice of iconicness. I could see that shortscale TBird do well with girl bassplayers that like the look of a regular TBird but find it - literally - too much of a stretch to play one.
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I am not a petite player so I have no desire for a short scale bass. And while I am a fan of the NR bird the reverse body doesn't speak to me. Someday though, I will own a long scale SG type bass.
And that black short scale thingie has absolutely no appeal to me. It looks cheap. Even the control knobs not being in a straight line gives the impression of being built by amateurs.
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It's probably gonna be one growly little creature. I think the TB Plus pups did exceedingly well on the SG RI, so why should they fail here?
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Well done Uwe!
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Well done Uwe!
+1
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Thunderhobbit!
Or:
Hobbird!!!
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Someday though, I will own a long scale SG type bass.
That's what I've been playing 90% of the time lately. The balance isn't great but I'm used to a Thunderbird so that's no big deal!
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It doesn't look right to me. And I don't see how it will sound much like an SG.
The SG Bass pickups are not the same as TB Plus. Gibson's site doesn't even call them TB Plus anymore. The blades and the coils of the neck pickup may be identical to a TB Plus but the coils are so widely separated that it would make a big difference in the tone since the portion of string being "read" is so much wider. And it's in a different position than the neck pickup on Thunderbird. The SG bridge pickup is apparently a regular mini-hum.
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My Greco and Ibanez are "short scale" enough for me........I'm curious about the rumoured Explorer tho.......Will they follow Epi? Or repeat the '80s version?
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I don't know. The short scale bass seems to be getting a lot of shelf space in the lower end of the market. Those f#cking awful Gretsch pieces of crap, the Epi SGs and even the slightly better quality Mustang reissues all seem to move out the door, I guess for kids and guitar players who just want to pick one up to annoy people. So, a peculiar Tbird variant might be a way to grab a piece of the market too. If you had the choice between a Wretsch and that, what would you go for? Or that vs an Epi EB-0? I would get the Tbird. Compared to a real T-bird, it looks goofy, but it is still kind of cool for a shorty and presumably bargain bin bass.
I would be tempted to throw this on a Tbird in lieu of the crap 3 point.
http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=364
(http://hipshotproducts.com/img/mids/cover_body_d1-mid.jpg)
Uwe's comment: Admittedly, that does look impressive!
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More shelf space than, say, 10 years ago. Still a very small portion of the market. I would be very surprised if more than 1 in 50 basses sold are short scale.
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It doesn't look right to me. And I don't see how it will sound much like an SG.
The SG Bass pickups are not the same as TB Plus. Gibson's site doesn't even call them TB Plus anymore. The blades and the coils of the neck pickup may be identical to a TB Plus but the coils are so widely separated that it would make a big difference in the tone since the portion of string being "read" is so much wider. And it's in a different position than the neck pickup on Thunderbird. The SG bridge pickup is apparently a regular mini-hum.
That's why the SG RI front pup sounds woofier than a TBird or LP front TB Plus, but the basic character is still there.
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I would be tempted to throw this on a Tbird in lieu of the crap 3 point.
http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=364
I just checked that out on the Hipshot website. Does it fit the T-bird stud spacing? And why is it called a "D Style"?
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Because it's D-liteful?
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Silly remark. Because it's from a Dunderbird, that's why.
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I doubt it means anything other than a model designation. They've had an A and B style for years. Maybe they already used the C for something that's been discontinued.
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I don't know. The short scale bass seems to be getting a lot of shelf space in the lower end of the market. Those f#cking awful Gretsch pieces of crap, the Epi SGs and even the slightly better quality Mustang reissues all seem to move out the door, I guess for kids and guitar players who just want to pick one up to annoy people.
[Clears throat politely].....
Um, you wouldn't by chance be referring to the Gretsch 2202 Electromatic Jr. Jet, wouldja? Mine is a darn good bass and a fantastic one for its price point. Nice fit and finish, superb pickup, good balance and a pleasure to play. Certainly not the piece of art that hollowbody Gretsch models like my 5123 are, but still a highly gigworthy and enjoyqble bass.
It's not a high-end bass, but certainly not worthy of disdain. I don't think I've ever read a bad review of this bass by an owner.
I also have a Bronco with the same TV Jones pickup in it, and it's a lot of fun and sounds gerat.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/Gretsch%202202/PB070023.jpg)
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That's a nice bass except for the bridge. It looks cheap on everything but Fenders.
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That's a nice bass except for the bridge. It looks cheap on everything but Fenders.
It has never bothered me, but maybe for grins I should drop a '51 P ashtray on it? That would add chrome, which is prettymuch allus a good thang.
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You can never have too much nickel or chrome!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/l_265692f86ac052eeb6d36017a9263db4.jpg)
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They missed the switch knob!
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An albino monstrosity!!! :mrgreen:
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Interesting pickup position (neck pup). Quite seldom seen today.
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RD... 8)
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Russian origin no doubt.
(http://weltkrieg2.de/Geschichte/Kriegsgliederungen/Sowjetunion/Winter-Offensive-px800.jpg)
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Veleno never made a bass...?
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Here it is, in full glory. Between NAMM and the market release a pickguard crawled onto the body. Not sure if I like this better though. They dragged the width of the pg for whatever reason all the way up to the side of the neck, necessitating cutouts for the TB Plus pups in the process. Unheard of with a Rev TBird - sacrilege!!! :mrgreen: All in all, it looks very Studio now.
http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson/basses/100310436/100310436.php
(http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson/basses/100310436/100310436_t.jpg)
(http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson/basses/100310436/100310436_lg1.jpg)
(http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson/basses/100310436/100310436_lg2.jpg)
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I like the pick guard. It reminds me a bit of those Melody Maker guitars, on which the pick guard and pickup surroundings are one piece..
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Now if they would just get rid of that bridge....
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Riot inciting comments these are.
I have a hunch Fräulein Rommel will very soon have one of these. Goes well with her miniskirts and the band is, after all, called The Nasty Hobbits.
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I like the pick guard. It reminds me a bit of those Melody Maker guitars, on which the pick guard and pickup surroundings are one piece..
..... so in a roundabout way you're saying it looks like a cheap-ass budget release right ? :mrgreen:
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It is a budget model, I don't think it intends to be anything else with the cheap fin. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
The pg added in afterthought strikes me as a mistaken attempt to upgrade the looks somewhat, but I in fact preferred the puristic look of the NAMM model without any pg.
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So he nailed it ! ;) That's probably why Chris is reviewing bass guitars in magazines and I'm not ... ;D
But seriously...... I'm just looking for reasons not to buy one knowing full well I will sometime in future .... But for now I'm in denial and I don't like the headstock, the tuners, the finish. the bridge, the flat body .... :mrgreen:
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;D I love Melody Makers, btw. And I laughed hard about Nasty Hobits:D
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What's up with the crooked knobs on these things? :-\ Pickguard.... eh... Not great to my eyes. I'll never buy one, so I should probably just shut up. ;D
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What's up with the crooked knobs on these things?
Looks the same as the SG pot placement. They probably wanted to save having to reprogram a machine somewhere.
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I think the euphemism for "crooked" is "circular for better ergonomics", meine Herren!
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We will very soon know more on how these play. I have requested a well-known TBird connaisseuse in one of the more North-Western states of the USA (one nation under Canada) to obtain one for us. She wishes to have her identity protected for the time being. Given that today is International Women's Day, I thought the choice more than fitting.
Uwe
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Maybe the NR isn't far behind???????????
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They had already sent me a protottype of the NR, but I didn't like the chrome hardware, so they are now exchanging it.
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They had already sent me a protottype of the NR, but I didn't like the chrome hardware, so they are now exchanging it.
No doubt you told them it needed to be all black and have a three point bridge like the originals.
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How did you guess? :o :o :o :mrgreen:
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We will very soon know more on how these play. I have requested a well-known TBird connaisseuse in one of the more North-Western states of the USA (one nation under Canada) to obtain one for us. She wishes to have her identity protected for the time being. Given that today is International Women's Day, I thought the choice more than fitting.
Uwe
Ze Fraulein has completed ze assignment according to your wishes Herr Gibson Gruppenfuhrer!
Ze Hobbitbird vill be traveling from Denver, Colorado to Seattle in ze morning, I vill report on it's progress as I recieve updates.
Heil! ;)
Hobbitses..........
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/hobbitbird1.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/hobbitbird2.jpg)
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Wunderbar und vielen Dank!
I wonder how much TBird will be left in it now that it
is short scale.
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When it arrives I will of course take some comparison photos - Size after all, does matter! ;)
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When it arrives I will of course take some comparison photos - Size after all, does matter! ;)
I've see those reflected T-Bird pickup photos Mark! :o
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I've see those reflected T-Bird pickup photos Mark! :o
Yeah, that George ;D
Makin' me jealous!
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Ze Fraulein has completed ze assignment according to your wishes Herr Gibson Gruppenfuhrer!
Hobbitses..........
So you're the honorary Sturmbahnführer ? Tolle Scheiße !! ;D
Those black on black pics of ze hobbitses suck große Zeit >:(. We trust you can do better ........
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No doubt you told them it needed to be all black and have a three point bridge like the originals.
Except that the original NR's were chrome and two point with tail piece.
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T'was irony of Herr Westheimer, you must forgive!
Sometimes, when I read all those brilliantly snappy emails referencing Germany's not so glorious past I wonder what innocent third parties might think when stumbling on this site??? Wot haff I let looze hier?!!!
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Und kann wir weisse wie viel das vogel kostet, herr sturm(vogel)truppen führer?
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T'was irony of Herr Westheimer, you must forgive!
Was it irony, or was I just speculating on the mischief you'd like to cause? ;D
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Mischief here always dangerous, Master Dave, angry people then break things or shoot poor Uwe!!!
Through offering whatever services of illicit nature (or unnature), Fräulein Rommel bargained the price of the Hobbird down to 950 Dollars including shipping to her rainy nest. Danke, Mark!
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Uwe,
I'm having the Little 'Bird sent to my work so there will always be someone to sign for it, and if it shows on my day off it will be stored safely in my cubicle (yes I actually have one!) And I'll set my Traynor and GK up for some side by side tests - of course pics too.
Happy to help out :)
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Yeah, that George ;D
Makin' me jealous!
Uh.........I was talking about you Herr Fraulein!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Nikki%20Sixx/NikkiSixx016.jpg)
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;D
This girl gets happy around chrome :-*
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the Hobbird
;D That'll stick alright ..... ;D
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Riot inciting comments these are.
I have a hunch Fräulein Rommel will very soon have one of these. Goes well with her miniskirts and the band is, after all, called The Nasty Hobbits.
If that were the case, they'd have to shave their feet, wouldn't they?
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You have a hairy point there ... ! - )
To avoid further confusion: Only George "the hunk" Carlston has so far spoiled us with his stallionesque reflections of a member. My pet theory regarding this forum's puzzling obsession with all things chrome has its subliminally homophile (hairy) roots right there. Or to put it more simply: At the end of the day all chrome is closet gay! Face it.
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Aint no closet here. My chrome is out and proud, and just like the mirrored glove box door in front of the passenger seat of my first ('67 RS) Camaro, chrome can reflect all sorts of fun things!
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You have a hairy point there ... ! - )
To avoid further confusion: Only George "the hunk" Carlston has so far spoiled us with his stallionesque reflections of a member. My pet theory regarding this forum's puzzling obsession with all things chrome has its subliminally homophile (hairy) roots right there. Or to put it more simply: At the end of the day all chrome is closet gay! Face it.
Closet gay?..........Herr Moderator, you know me, "Out and Proud" :gay:
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George, don't we have some homework to do with that Custom Shop TB?!!!
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. :popcorn: ;D
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George, don't we have some homework to do with that Custom Shop TB?!!!
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Sorry, I was waiting for the pickups to get back from the machine shop...
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There is fear now in Germany. Great fear.
(http://www.theolddarkhouse.com/Bride%20Of%20Frankenstein/Bride%20Of%20Frankenstein%2025.JPG)
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Didn't I tell you I had also ordered a set of chrome hardware for Ze Hobbitses as well?
Bad Smeigle! ;)
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Weren't fiendish experiments against creation and nature an Axis speciality? You Amerikaner always learn ze wrong zingsss from uzz ...
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Hey............. I could always dress it up in black bra and panties since you don't care for chrome ;)
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I am picking up a short scale Thunderbird locally, I am getting it for a steal :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y
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That one guy reminds me so much of a young Malcom McDowell, it's uncanny.
(http://zombcon.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/malcolm.jpg)
And of course McDowell (forever typecast after his brilliant Alex-role in Clockwork Orange) would have been exactly the guy to cast as an SS officer in a movie.
The skull wasn't only used by the Waffen-SS but also by regular German Wehrmacht tank crews who - unlike the Waffen-SS - also wore black uniforms (only the Allgemeine SS did that, the Waffen SS in the early years looked like Wehrmacht and in the later years sported a look very similar to how US troops look today) which added to the confusion. I think it goes back to medieval mercenary/Landsknecht times.
Whenever I look at US uniforms today, I wonder whether that one solitary picture (notwithstanding very low ratings on the pc-o-meter) that is hanging on the wall at the Military Academy of Westpoint to this day - and not a US soldier by any means - has perhaps had a sartorial creeping (or creepy?) effect over the decades ...
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/90282-2/DZWvE_510_1%23)
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Experimentzzz...? I LOVE experimentzzz...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rs51u5UHxdA/TAVEB6T9qBI/AAAAAAAABck/gwm81qUmtYc/s1600/MartyFeldmanIgor.jpg)
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moving on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YRWhg4YaA
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Frau Blucher!