Yep, the Lull pup's are amazing - I'm blessed to have picked up a T4 last year, and its got it all. Communicating with Jason indicates that his pup's aren't going to cost much more than his Epi TB pup's
and I think he's going to have a pretty amazing one on the market in a couple of months as well. Perhaps Mark and I are in the middle of a Thunderbird Renaissance market based in the NW?