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Title: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Pilgrim on September 23, 2013, 10:25:42 AM
He's added some Beatles stuff, including "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite".  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCiG7xoEb2Y

Definitely one of the oddest tunes the Beatles did...but one I have always liked.  His comments:

"That's challenging. I mean, something like "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!" is hard to do. Ask a bass player who sings. It's contrapuntal, man! It really is. I've got to sing a melody that's going to one place, and then I've got to play this bassline that's going to other places. It's a concentration thing. But that's half the fun of the show. I'm still practicing, still trying to figure it out, particularly on the new numbers. It's like, "How does this one go again?"

And....

"Well, for instance, "Mr. Kite" is such a crazy, oddball song that I thought it would freshen up the set. Plus the fact that I'd never done it. None of us in the Beatles ever did that song [in concert]. And I have great memories of writing it with John. I read, occasionally, people say, "Oh, John wrote that one." I say, "Wait a minute, what was that afternoon I spent with him, then, looking at this poster?" He happened to have a poster in his living room at home. I was out at his house, and we just got this idea, because the poster said "Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite" – and then we put in, you know, "there will be a show tonight," and then it was like, "of course," then it had "Henry the Horse dances the waltz." You know, whatever. "The Hendersons, Pablo Fanques, somersets…" We said, "What was 'somersets'? It must have been an old-fashioned way of saying somersaults." The song just wrote itself. So, yeah, I was happy to kind of reclaim it as partially mine. But like I said, you've got to look what you're doing when you play that one."


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-paul-mccartney-looks-back-on-his-latest-magical-mystery-tour-20130725#ixzz2fjnhaTNG
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 23, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
Very interesting.  I read some of the comments.  It's amazing how some of the people have such egos that they can write such things.  I'm speaking of those who label John as the rock genius and Paul as his inferior.  I was more of a fan of John, but Paul was John's equal in the Beatles.  Since Paul co-wrote "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite," although John sang it, he has every right to do the song live now if he feels like it.  Those armchair critics, egocentric and full of vitriol and self-importance are not, however, ever in short supply.  In case this isn't clear, I am referring to readers' comments at the bottom of the article.  But I'd suggest that you not waste your time like I did reading such nonsense. 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Pilgrim on September 23, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
I never understood the people who worshiped John, but there was something about him - maybe the Yoko deal - that seemed to convince people he was special.

Paul has always seemed more approachable to me, and I'm confident that he was at least an equal partner in writing their music.

And if not, I don't give a rat's a**, because John is dead and Paul is still making music.  He wins.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: godofthunder on September 23, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
 Gotta love Paul! I saw him in Toronto in '89, still the best concert I ever witnessed. He played bass, guitar, piano and sang his ass off. He clearly loved every minute of it. For me Paul can do no wrong even if he breaks into Silly Love Longs, though I'd much rather hear Jrs. Farm.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 23, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10lJbYJQgEc
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Hörnisse on September 23, 2013, 06:16:39 PM
A buddy of mine took his kid to see McCartney when he was in Austin this past May.  Over $500 for face value tickets.  No thank you.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 23, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
A buddy of mine took his kid to see McCartney when he was in Austin this past May.  Over $500 for face value tickets.  No thank you.

Two different issues.  I wouldn't even consider paying that.  My point, however, is the objection I was making to people who had posted that essentially John Lennon was a great genius and Paul McCartney a no-talent hack.  If you read some of the comments (which I recommend that people not waste their time on like I did,) you'll see a statement or two (at the bottom of the article) to that effect. 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Hörnisse on September 23, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
They've been making that argument since Lennon was shot on December 1980.  Anyone remember Give My Regards To Broad Street or the awful duet he did with Michael Jackson, Say, Say, Say? 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 23, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
They've been making that argument since Lennon was shot on December 1980.  Anyone remember Give My Regards To Broad Street or the awful duet he did with Michael Jackson, Say, Say, Say?  

Yes, that's true.  If Paul had died not long after the Beatles broke up, he would be remembered in a radically different way.  I have never much liked his solo work.  Both John and George had way better solo albums.  Still, for me that doesn't take away from his great accomplishments with the Beatles. 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Hörnisse on September 23, 2013, 08:22:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Paul.  I was just listening to Abbey Road the other day.  And I liked Ringo's solo stuff in the early to mid 70's.  Paul's 70's output was great as well.  My friend was disappointed that he did not play Jet in concert.  Band On The Run is one of my favorite records by Paul.  I often wonder what John would have done had he not taken that 5 year break.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: gweimer on September 24, 2013, 03:06:39 AM
I often wonder what John would have done had he not taken that 5 year break.

John lost me at that point.  Once he became happy, he no longer needed the music, and I think it showed.  Paul seems to have gotten back on track in his golden years, embracing the past more and really just showing his love of the music for what it is.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: godofthunder on September 24, 2013, 04:53:35 AM
 Mister Kite live is damn impressive, Just watching and hearing that bass line live is worth $500 bucks imho.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Pilgrim on September 24, 2013, 06:52:17 AM
Mister Kite live is damn impressive, Just watching and hearing that bass line live is worth $500 bucks imho.

I can't imagine playing that and singing it at the same time.  BIG challenge IMO.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Dave W on September 24, 2013, 07:11:27 AM
John lost me at that point.  Once he became happy, he no longer needed the music, and I think it showed.  Paul seems to have gotten back on track in his golden years, embracing the past more and really just showing his love of the music for what it is.

That's right on point. And if Paul doesn't want to break new ground, who cares? He loves what he's doing and so do his fans.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: nofi on September 24, 2013, 07:31:04 AM
guys liked john because of his non music life with ono. drugs, revolution, crazy art, politics etc. paul had the enduring post beatle output. as someone stated, if john had lived he would be resting on his laurels. with yoko of course.imho.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 24, 2013, 07:51:01 AM
Paul on Jimmy Kimmel last night with his newest song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NAA6ZK4uNk
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: gearHed289 on September 24, 2013, 08:19:31 AM
Not to pick sides, but Paul was always my favorite. When I got past listening to what my sisters had and started buying my own music, Wings 45 of Let em In was the first thing I bought (along with Boys are Back/Jailbreak). And it went from there. A year later I got my first bass. We'd had Sgt. Peppers in the house for as far back as I can remember, plus a bunch of 45s. LOVED Penny Lane and Hello Goodbye! And the Apple label was just cool.  :mrgreen:

Anyway, I saw Paul do Mr. Kite on Colbert a couple months ago. Very cool! Sampling technology put to good use there. Just listened to three new songs today. Two I liked (Everybody Out There, New), one (Save Us), eh...
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: westen44 on September 24, 2013, 08:57:04 AM
Don't get me wrong, I love Paul.  I was just listening to Abbey Road the other day.  And I liked Ringo's solo stuff in the early to mid 70's.  Paul's 70's output was great as well.  My friend was disappointed that he did not play Jet in concert.  Band On The Run is one of my favorite records by Paul.  I often wonder what John would have done had he not taken that 5 year break.

I've posted about this before here.  In my opinion, Paul was at his best when he was collaborating.  In his collaboration with John, he was John's equal.  In fact, in some cases it might be argued that he was really quite a driving force behind the Beatles from time to time.  One example would be during Abbey Road.  John and Yoko got into a car accident in Scotland and were hospitalized.  Paul was still in the studio recording and got so busy he turned over some of the bass-playing duties to George.  I'm not sure if any of that has been posted on this board or not, but it shouldn't be too hard to look up. 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Thornton Davis on September 24, 2013, 09:11:39 AM
Gotta love Paul! I saw him in Toronto in '89, still the best concert I ever witnessed. He played bass, guitar, piano and sang his ass off. He clearly loved every minute of it. For me Paul can do no wrong even if he breaks into Silly Love Longs, though I'd much rather hear Jrs. Farm.

I was at that concert as well Scott. That was the Flowers In The Dirt tour. I still have the program handout from that show. It was great concert, unfortunately it was in The Skydome which has the worst acoustics.

TD
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: uwe on September 25, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
I don't have a favorite between the two, but Paul has one crowning musical achievement ahead of John: He never allowed his wife to sing lead.
That and how he didn't like Phil Spec-to-to-to-to-tor's production.

And in my book any Ex-Beatle can play all their songs from their canon irrespectively of who wrote what. 
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Hörnisse on September 25, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
I don't have a favorite between the two, but Paul has one crowning musical achievement ahead of John: He never allowed his wife to sing lead. 


Uhhhh............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45W_SnnDhA
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: Chris P. on September 26, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
Macca's new song is all over the radio here in Holland and I like it.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2013, 02:45:49 AM

Uhhhh............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45W_SnnDhA

Good I never had that album. A one-time aberration, John was a repeat offender!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2013, 02:49:25 AM
Paul on Jimmy Kimmel last night with his newest song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NAA6ZK4uNk

A bit too sweetish/Tin Pan Alley for me (I prefer the rockier Paul as he very well can be), but the Epiphone JC graces it.
Title: Re: McCartney's new tour
Post by: gearHed289 on September 26, 2013, 08:01:25 AM

Uhhhh............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45W_SnnDhA

Ugh, yeah, that was on the flipside of the Let em In 45. I love that album though. A lovely ditty sung by Denny -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Uw4qKwklc