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The Bass Zone / Re: Switcheroos on stage
« on: November 14, 2008, 08:01:22 AM »
I forgot about this one... U2 back in the day with Adam Clayton on guitar and Edge on bass:
http://www.youtube.com/v/AjtpplE39_g&hl=en&fs=1

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The Bass Zone / Re: Switcheroos on stage
« on: November 14, 2008, 07:53:35 AM »
I went looking for footage of Prince on bass and didnt find any, but here's Stevie Wonder on drums...
too bad the audio's out of sync with the video
http://www.youtube.com/v/3KkZjEZbU9w&hl=en&fs=1

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The Bass Zone / Re: Switcheroos on stage
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:43:52 PM »
First time I ever saw anybody do the onstage switcheroo (in fact, that's exactly the word they used) was these crazy-ass guys I went to college with, called Soothing Sounds For Baby.
They had an enormous musical impact on me. Don't go insulting my taste, now  :P

Here's three live vids showing three different lineups from the same trio:

http://www.youtube.com/v/wtZS9RUeNno&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/C8jhxpuUuy4&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/1NzV9baWgek&hl=en&fs=1

They were pretty damn good for a high-school band back in 87 before I met them:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z8sM9jrC9VY&hl=en&fs=1

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The Bass Zone / Re: Congrats to Mr Watt
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:01:34 PM »
(sound of slinkp busting out "Vietnam" from Double Nickels ... followed by "In the Engine Room")

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: anyone like early 80's Punk/Hardcore ?
« on: November 10, 2008, 09:41:46 PM »
Heh, I remember a lot of those names but somehow the only one I actually saw was False Prophets - good live show.

On a related note, I saw Bad Brains last week. The band still seriously rocks the hell out. What a rhythm section.  I even really liked the dub songs.
H.R. seems to have mentally permanently left planet earth though. He seemed kinda disinterested in the hardcore stuff and didn't really even try to sing. Worth it to see the rest of the band though.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Dark Star'd Epi EB3
« on: November 07, 2008, 10:45:27 PM »
Sounds of the dark star, among other things...
Here's an edited sample of me dorking around with some pickups literally gaffer-taped into a really crap plywood bass.


Some of it is fingerstyle, some pick; with voice-over explaining what's what.

There is lots of rattling and clanking noise and crap from the pickups not being properly secured, and from the bass just being so bad (warped neck, etc).
The first sample is a flaky '76 Thunderbird pickup I got on ebay a few years ago.  The Dark Star in the bridge position appears around 0:50,  in middle position around 3:20.  Around 6:00 is the Dark Star as close to the neck as I could get it. Even with the bad playing and mechanical noises, you should be able to get an idea what it sounds like!

(Around 7:15 I switched to a Gibson LPB bass that I had just acquired, and around 8:50 I picked up a Danelectro.)

This is all preparation for a custom project bass that I was gonna have built, I swear some day it will get done, although now that I've got a kid on the way it may not be for another 18 years or so  :o

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Guitars Etc. / Re: A Steve Morse type of guitar project
« on: November 07, 2008, 10:15:02 PM »
Only four? There's clearly room for another single coil in there!  :mrgreen:
seriously though, I would love to have one of those too.

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Gibson Basses / Re: It's alive ! Well sort of, Thunderbird content
« on: October 21, 2008, 08:38:50 AM »
If I'm ever in Rochester, you are so going to let me play that thing!  :mrgreen:

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Is a "live" album really "live"?
« on: October 21, 2008, 08:37:13 AM »
Now that's interesting. I don't have the vinyl anymore (it was my dad's and he sold his entire vinyl collection without even telling me!).
I don't remember the bass solo sounding different, but I haven't had a chance to play them side by side.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Is a "live" album really "live"?
« on: October 20, 2008, 10:41:07 PM »
Ah, Live at Leeds! Brilliant stuff.  I'm well aware that it's far from a purist album. But you know, I have doubts about this story about the bass being re-recorded. Why?

* I haven't turned up anything else on Google claiming that the Leeds gig had the bass overdubbed.

* Two gigs were recorded: one at Leeds, one at Hull.  Wikipedia says about Hull, "technical problems with the recordings from the Hull gig — the bass guitar had not been recorded... "   Engineer Bob Pridden says the same thing at  http://www.thewho.org/leeds.htm .  So I wonder if the rumor started from that story, getting a crucial detail wrong as so often happens with rumors.

* At http://www.thewho.org/leeds.htm there's a lot about vocals being overdubbed, echo effects being added, cable noise being digitally removed from the bass track ... but no mention anywhere of the bass being re-played.  It doesn't seem like they're trying to hide anything, so why omit that?

* The original bass sound would have bled significantly into the vocal mics and drum mics ... into John's vocal mic at least, and probably Roger's too. There's a generally weird comb-filtery sound to a lot of the reissue that I think is due to all the bleed.  (A tangent: Bleed from the bass is really evident on the Isle of Wight DVD where the bass seems to have been under-recorded and you can hear the bass sound oscillating like crazy when Roger swings his mic around!)   What's my point?  That in almost 30 years of obsessive listening to Leeds in its several editions ... I have never noticed any bass guitar bleed that sounds like it doesn't sync up. Not even a hint of phantom bass.  I can't imagine anybody, including Entwistle, being able to play along with 120 minutes of that wild improvising style and nail every note so perfectly that no ghosts are audible.

* On the reissues, the bass sound is fairly consistent between the stuff that was on the vinyl version and the stuff that wasn't. I doubt they would have taken the time to overdub the entire concert's worth of material back in 1970, and I also doubt they could have done new overdubs in 1995 or 2001 that so closely matched such a quirky original tone.

I could be proven wrong, of course. But until some evidence turns up, I'm going to assume the bass tracks are original.

Sorry for the soapbox rant. Carry on  ;D

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
« on: March 08, 2008, 09:31:04 PM »
Off the top of my head, hmm...

The Walking Hellos
http://www.walkinghellos.com/music.php

Renminbi (same drummer as W.H.)
http://www.myspace.com/renminbi
unfortunately I'm missing a gig of theirs right now...

need something noisier? all hail the mighty Boredoms...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boredoms
I have seen them three times in the past 15 years, each show radically different.

Oneida really impressed me, saw them a couple times last year:
http://www.myspace.com/oneidarocks

I am so happy that Mission of Burma got back together:
http://www.missionofburma.com/

and finally I'll plug my own band, Giggle the Ozone:
http://www.myspace.com/gtozone
the last song is probably closest to what we do since I joined, this stuff is freaking hard for me.

and hey, I remember Killdozer too!  "Hey! You! You call this a hamburger? Well, I don't call this a hamburger..."

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