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Title: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: exiledarchangel on July 04, 2023, 12:55:02 PM
GENIOUS! I almost posted it on Gibson subforum :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8h8oqEFQo
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Alanko on July 05, 2023, 10:24:18 AM
I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 05, 2023, 05:12:47 PM
Another solution in search of a problem.

My SG Special (guitar) doesn't neck dive. My EB-0 doesn't neck dive.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 05, 2023, 09:26:19 PM
My '64 Gibson EB-0 which I played for many years never had neck dive at all.  I never understood why people kept talking about EB-0 neck dive.  It made no sense to me.  That was one of the most well-balanced basses I've ever had.  Maybe other years/models are different.  My fairly new SG Standard also doesn't neck dive.  Yet I've been online at places where people claim for some reason that all SG-type basses neck dive.  What's going on, I really don't know.  Because the ones I play don't.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: morrow on July 06, 2023, 04:41:36 AM
My SG has some dive. If I keep my forearm on the bass it stays , but if I was to lift both arms above my head like Gene … down she’d go.

Not a move I do often.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: doombass on July 06, 2023, 04:47:38 AM
Nah, I would'nt want to walk onstage with a slanted wedgie.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 06, 2023, 06:43:00 AM
My SG has some dive. If I keep my forearm on the bass it stays , but if I was to lift both arms above my head like Gene … down she’d go.

Not a move I do often.

From everything you've posted about the music you play, I can't imagine you doing a Gene move. One Gene Simmons is more than enough.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: slinkp on July 06, 2023, 08:17:57 AM
I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.

Quite well.  http://frantone.com/
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: exiledarchangel on July 08, 2023, 01:36:12 PM
To neck-dive deniers: sadly neck dive is a thing. I found this "out of the box" solution funny enough to post, that's all.

I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.

AFAIK we are not related.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Pilgrim on July 08, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
Quite well.  http://frantone.com/

Ya gotta like a lady who sells a pedal called a "Vibutron." 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2023, 08:33:27 AM
The SG-Z, EB-4, EB-0L, EB-3L, SB-400 and -450 all neck-dive. Long scale SG shape basses inevitably do that unless you make the body fatter. I have one Custom Shop long scale SG shape bass where they gave the body almost Les Paul type dimensions. That counters neck dive, but it’s quite removed from the original petite SG body feel.

Does anybody agree with me that the SG has one of the few guitar shapes that looks better slung a little high rather than low?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/36/40/c836407d540228063ae9857267acecc5.jpg)

Stone me, but I think Fran's clip-on idea is actually pretty nifty. And, man, it's a relief to see a woman just play electric guitar without any low neckline-, spaghetti straps- or theater layer thick makeup-click enhancements. No nose wrinkling either.

Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 09, 2023, 10:05:23 AM
Since I was young, I've definitely preferred the SG slung a little high. 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2023, 11:22:30 AM
Ya gotta like a lady who sells a pedal called a "Vibutron."

Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.

The SG-Z, EB-4, EB-0L, EB-3L, SB-400 and -450 all neck-dive. Long scale SG shape basses inevitably do that unless you make the body fatter. I have one Custom Shop long scale SG shape bass where they gave the body almost Les Paul type dimensions. That counters neck dive, but it’s quite removed from the original petite SG body feel.

...

Stone me, but I think Fran's clip-on idea is actually pretty nifty. And, man, it's a relief to see a woman just play electric guitar without any low neckline-, spaghetti straps- or theater layer thick makeup-click enhancements. No nose wrinkling either.


That's true of the long scale versions. And I don't doubt that sometimes it happens with SG guitars and short scale basses (as with exiledarchangel's bass), but it's nowhere near as common as so many posts on various forums would have you believe.

Yeah, Fran's all right. It is nifty if you have a neck dive problem with any guitar or bass.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 09, 2023, 11:42:43 AM
Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.

That's true of the long scale versions. And I don't doubt that sometimes it happens with SG guitars and short scale basses (as with exiledarchangel's bass), but it's nowhere near as common as so many posts on various forums would have you believe.

Yeah, Fran's all right. It is nifty if you have a neck dive problem with any guitar or bass.

Those same various forums would also have you believe that all Gibson basses sound like mud and have headstocks that disintegrate  on contact with air. 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Basvarken on July 09, 2023, 12:44:32 PM
Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.


Wasn't that in Barbarella?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu7GgZbCLsY


The villain was called Duran Duran by the way
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2023, 01:26:22 PM
I never saw Barbarella after being warned by friends not to waste my money.

https://youtu.be/uZvpIE5g5Fo
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 09, 2023, 01:46:48 PM
Wasn't that in Barbarella?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu7GgZbCLsY


The villain was called Duran Duran by the way

I'm no Duran Duran expert, but evidently they named themselves that one day after seeing Barbarella. 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Basvarken on July 09, 2023, 02:07:19 PM
I never saw Barbarella after being warned by friends not to waste my money.



Your friends were wrong.
It is awesome  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 09, 2023, 03:32:28 PM

Your friends were wrong.
It is awesome  :mrgreen:

I'm not sure if I would call it awesome, but I'd say for that time period it's a pretty good movie. 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Basvarken on July 09, 2023, 11:53:56 PM
Yeah I didn't mean awesome in the sense of great acting or great directorship.
I mean funny, silly, quirky, sexy, clumsy and absurd. All at the same time.
Jane Fonda's wardrobe (or lack thereof) alone is worth watching it  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: amptech on July 10, 2023, 12:47:59 AM
'I'll do things to you beyond every known philosophy' :mrgreen:

Seriously, this movie is flawless in every regard!
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 10, 2023, 06:50:40 AM
Fish mouth Jane Fonda is not appealing to me.
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Basvarken on July 10, 2023, 08:24:59 AM

(https://cdn.posteritati.com/posters/000/000/061/559/barbarella-md-web.jpg)
(https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/barbarella-1967-directed-by-roger-vadim-jane-fonda-photo_u-l-q1c37lj0.jpg?background=f3f3f3)
(https://i.etsystatic.com/21416102/r/il/856f49/3758181311/il_570xN.3758181311_li56.jpg)
(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/jane-fonda-in-barbarella-bettmann.jpg)


horrible indeed  :mrgreen: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Pilgrim on July 10, 2023, 11:12:42 AM
Protect us from such peril...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoP6qeKmhA
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 10, 2023, 03:54:25 PM
Yeah I didn't mean awesome in the sense of great acting or great directorship.
I mean funny, silly, quirky, sexy, clumsy and absurd. All at the same time.
Jane Fonda's wardrobe (or lack thereof) alone is worth watching it  :mrgreen:

It's quirky sci-fi; I agree.  If you like that and movies with scantily-clad women, it delivers all those things.  I've never complained about either in my movie critiques. 
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: Dave W on July 10, 2023, 04:56:39 PM
Protect us from such peril...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoP6qeKmhA

"and after the spanking, the oral sex."

https://youtu.be/zXT_IOt81Xs
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: uwe on July 11, 2023, 08:34:03 AM
Man, I haven't seen Barbarella in ages!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

About time to revisit this cultural artifact, otherwise I'll continue believing that only wonder bread is female orgasm inducing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pQgbEEFPq0

Can we please discuss When Women Had Tails too? A cineastic masterpiece compared to which One Million Years BC feat. Raquel W as a source of inspiration pales into just a boringly realistic nature documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ9phccwrE

It featured our very own*** Senta Berger!

(https://cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/images/d3f53f6f-0001-0004-0000-000000775701_w920_r1.3545454545454545_fpx61.25_fpy55.01.jpg)

***When Senta was born in Vienna in 1941, differentiation between Germany and Austria was somewhat opaque and more on the "Eager to have joined!"-side of things rather than the later - come 1945 - "We were invaded!"  :mrgreen:

I grew up in Dieburg, a small town. The only restriction our one and only cinema cared for was whether you had the money to buy the ticket. I learned a lot there just by watching.

PS: Senta outgrew the tail and became a reputable actress.

(https://www.rollingstone.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/07/16/28743863_27b4ae94dc3dd1ccf57f9d07fb40840e_1920re0-992x560.jpg)
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: lowend1 on July 13, 2023, 08:24:32 PM
A Scented Burger?
Title: Re: Neck dive is OVER
Post by: westen44 on July 13, 2023, 10:55:37 PM
Being a fan of spy movies, I also liked Senta Berger in "The Quiller Memorandum."