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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 27, 2016, 04:31:46 PM »
I'll be picking it up tomorrow I'll let you all know what I find in a few days.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 25, 2016, 10:59:11 PM »I've seen fiberglass used before on neck repairs, not common yet not that rare either.
That could very well be the original color, and it looks more like cherry that has faded from UV exposure than walnut anyway. Possible that the clearcoat was removed by fine sanding to try to blend more with the repair; if the clearcoat was partially worn off from use, that might have made sense rather than a complete strip and refin. Hard to tell until you have it in hand. Dark areas may just be dirt. If it comes off with a good cleaning, who knows, maybe you'll opt against a refin.
Well I guess we'll see, I should have it by the end of next week. The seller told me it was just a crack, I'm wondering now if it was a serious break for the repairmen to have used all that fiberglass.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 25, 2016, 10:33:58 AM »Whatever you end up doing it's still a good looking instrument any which way. If I were going to refin I'd pick something other than Cherry though. Why not live it up and do something crazy like Inverness Green or Silver Mist, or better yet a straight up 60s psychedelic finish
60's psychedelic, now that's an idea!
I was wondering what was in that hole on the neck, the repair was done years ago and the repairmen didn't match the stain very well. I'm wondering too how extensive the fiberglass area is, it looks like it goes on up into the lower headstock area
Another question: Is or was fiberglass a common way to repair breaks? What were or are the advantages and disadvantages of using fiberglass to repair a headstock crack like that?
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 25, 2016, 07:41:47 AM »if you are determined a 'mild' refin might be ok, but relicing is some phony bullshite i can't abide. it must be earned, not bought.
I don't like relicing either for the same reason but I think there is too much goo in the body for just a clear coat and it looks like hell now so I'll talk to the Guitar Garage and see what they have to say.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 25, 2016, 07:06:33 AM »There is a difference between mojo and gunk.
I'd have it refinished in cherry and then tastefully relic'ed. Like borderline Closet Classic, finish checking, deglossing, und so weiter.
I like Cherry too but have been thinking about what it would look like with brand new shiny paint on it and don't like that idea and I also hate the whole relic concept so I'm not sure what to do. However Dave steered me toward a good place fairly close by so I'm going to go down there and talk to them and see what they have to say. I also have a line on an original truss rod cover and some screws so I am a purist at heart, haha!
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 25, 2016, 06:34:30 AM »Doesn't look like the original finish, in fact it almost looks likes it's just stripped to me and the dirt/oil from hands is collecting in the wood next to the mudbucker. I'd refin and not feel bad.
Yeah that's what I think too. Especially since the seller told me it was natural to begin with.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 08:10:14 PM »
Can anyone here tell by looking if this has likely been stripped?
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 08:04:34 PM »Look under the pickup or inside of the control cavity. The original finish is many times visible in these locations.............
I haven't got it yet, waiting for Uncle Sam to deposit my tax return.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 07:32:24 PM »
Thanks Dave, I emailed links couldn't figure out how to get attachment in the mail. There is definitely no clear coat on this bass so I think it was taken off and yes I'm still in Ma. I'll check out Krishna the guitar garage.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 05:50:40 PM »I'm on my phone and cant see the photos well but is that even the original finish? If it's been stripped already I would hesitate to refinish it but if it's original I'd leave it beat up and ugly. You can't fake 50 years of patina and experience no matter how hard you try.
I don't know if it is the original finish, when I heard about it the guy told me it was natural and I was expecting a nice light color under some clear coat so when I saw it I assumed it was walnut but there doesn't seem to be any clear or paint on it so I then thought it had been stained. Was Walnut a stain or a paint? I am starting to think it has been stripped, I won't have it for a week or so so can't take it apart to see what's under the pickup, guard etc.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 08:17:35 AM »
I would have preferred to post larger pictures but they were too large, over the 320 kb limit.
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Gibson Basses / Re: Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 08:15:11 AM »
Here's the front
In looking at it now it's looks like someone may have stripped the finish off it at one time, what do you guys think?
In looking at it now it's looks like someone may have stripped the finish off it at one time, what do you guys think?
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Gibson Basses / Bought a 65(?) EB-3
« on: April 24, 2016, 08:04:32 AM »
I'm not sure of the year yet, haven't gotten it home but it has the old non-adjustable bridge, wide spaced knobs etc. It had a small crack in the headstock repaired years ago but overall is in pretty good shape for it's age, neck is straight and the frets are good. It is ugly though, it's walnut which I never really liked anyway but it's got heavy dark player marks on it in several places and there is a line in the neck where the repair was done where it gets lighter. I'm not sure whether to go for full restoration or to try to fix the dark and light areas. The dark area is really dark though and doesn't look like it would be easy to color that area. Anyway, what's involved in doing a new finish on these, would it be a big job the change the color to Cherry? It's not like this bass is a mint original. Does anyone know a place who knows these old Gibsons who could do a good job on a refin? Lastly, how much would i be looking at for a good refin job? I'll try and post a few pictures soon.
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Rickenbacker Basses / Re: Jeff Rath's 4- to 5-string conversions
« on: April 23, 2016, 07:57:47 PM »While I'm not a five-string fan, I think Jeff does a fine job and provides a service that few others will. I don't think he butchers the basses at all, and he has a policy of never converting a true relic or collectable. You can see that the only mod to the original chassis is the fifth tuner, placed in between the original D and G tuners. He get's his own bridges made to fit the original tailpiece, or in the case of the 4004 models, he gets aftermarket bridge/tail units that look similar to the originals. He does have to modify the typical Rick tail to accommodate the five-string layout, and he can also do alternate pickup/electronic setups.
Well today's run of the mill Rick could maybe be tomorrow's collectors item. They're not very attractive with the extra tuner on the wrong side of the headstock and I don't like the way he solicits business either, for ex, just now on another forum in a thread about a Rick bass, out of the clear blue sky saying nothing about the thread content he just posted a picture of a new Rick he bought saying that it's going to be a 5 string soon. I mean he's free to do what he wants with a bass he buys but I mean come on. I just saw a nice old Ruby(?) translucent 4001 bass on ebay but it's got a Schaller bridge on it, I'm sure whoever put that on years ago didn't think he was butchering the bass either. I just replied to his post and wrote Spam, haha!