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Re: Led Purple?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 07:24:40 PM »
was a fan for a little while. never liked that seventies euro organ /hard rock stuff. sounds instantly dated imo.
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Re: Led Purple?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 10:03:33 PM »
got the ric angle covered 4001 C64  ;D

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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 04:04:40 AM »
It's more Hughes' playing than what bass he plays. He sounds similar whether he plays a Mustang, Ric, P, Jazz, Manne, Vigier or ESP. He hits those strings hard with his pick and does a lot of dampening and controlled vibratos with his left hand. Plus his ubiquitous bending and intentionally sloppy sliding. Funnily enough, he probably sounded the least distinctive with the Ric, which is a very distinctive sounding bass per se, but Hughes and Ric never gelled. He dumped it quickly on the first Burn tour after he had started out with it in the Burn recordings, most likely to lend some continuity in the bass department as Roger Glover had played a Ric in the last years of DP Mk 2. The Ric on the Burn album comes nowhere near as well out as on the albums Glover recorded with the Ric while in Purple (Machine Head, Made in Japan and Who do we think we are). By the time of Stormbringer, where you hear the bass well, Hughes was playing the California Jam P. Same on Come Taste the Band.

The amps might have something to do with it. Glover played Marshalls and the distortion they gave him (which he hated, he always wanted a clear or as he put it "American" bass sound) enhanced the Ric's midrange making it quite prominent. Hughes played Hiwatts which worked great with the P, but not so much with the Ric. His bass sound on Burn is if anything to deep with too little mids which is why you have a hard time hearing him whereas Roger Glover was always easy to pick out. And that is even though Hughes is the much edgier "I want to be heard too!" player whereas Glover is more melodious "flowing with the music", but not looking for attention. Notewise, Glover is actually busier than Hughes, Hughes is funkier and more ahead of the beat, but actually play less notes if rhytmically more prominent.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2011, 05:20:13 AM »
Notewise, Glover is actually busier than Hughes, Hughes is funkier and more ahead of the beat, but actually play less notes if rhytmically more prominent.

Having had to study and play these songs in the DP tribute band I can vouch for this. When you listen to the songs as whole sound you dont really notice how busy Glover is. Uwe is right, Hughes playing gives the rhythm side of things the priority over melody. He plays a lot of the same notes. Burn is a good example. Glover uses a much wider spread of notes and melody and this is obviously a higher priority in his playing than the rhythm aspects. Listen closely to the bass line in Smoke on the water, most people are surprised when they hear the bass line by itself. It is a very busy melodic line.

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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2011, 07:22:58 AM »
Glover is busy, but unobstrusive, Hughes economic, but clamoring for attention! And getting it too.
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 07:45:45 AM »
After Glover left I pretty much stopped listening to what Deep Purple did. It is interesting to examine the differences in playing style of Glover and Hughes at this point in time. Hughes certainly gives them a kick in the ass and what a voice! Burn is my favorite youtube video at the moment!
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 08:21:47 AM »
Hughes was once asked what he thought his greatest contribution to DP was. And he said: "Giving Ian Paice a kick up the butt. He's a great drummer, but he never played better than with me in Mk III." That is actually a right on the mark observation. Paice was a highly talented, old school, swinging Buddy Rich type drummer, but with Hughes rhythmic inspiration he became snappy and funky.
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Re: Led Purple?
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 08:45:10 AM »
Deep Purple never ever stole from other people, serious!





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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 12:39:05 PM »
AAAAARGHHHH...!!!!



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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 12:40:21 PM »
Seriously though (just found that and got distracted), are there any (quality) live recordings with Nick Simper...?
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2011, 02:40:32 PM »
Yes, a gig in California (Inglewood) and some BBC live sessions EMI is currently compiling for a concentrated release rather than scattering them all over. Simper was a melodic player, but judged as too rock'n'roll (in the sesne of Johnny Kidd & the Pirates he had briefly played with before Kidd's fatal car accident)by Blackmore and Paice. They were listening to a lot of Vanilla Fudge back then (the blueprint for Mk 1 DP) and I guess they found more Tim Bogert in Glover's playing than in Simper's.
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Re: Led Purple?
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2011, 03:38:00 PM »
I just LOVE Led Zep & Deep Purple without overANALyzing them!! haha

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2011, 05:31:24 PM »
(a good lawyer makes sure they can't take it back)  :mrgreen:
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