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Title: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 17, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Anyone have a pic of the transfer that came with the bass ? The bird has a bent wing and is "playing" the Tbird.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: OldManC on August 17, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
I may still have one downstairs. I bought two in 2005 and put one on a shirt but it was so old it didn't transfer well. I put the other one away. I'll look for it tonight.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 17, 2010, 07:49:37 PM
Thanks George !
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: JZumbro on August 18, 2010, 12:45:04 AM
I would love to see that too. I have one '76 that I bought new, the one in my avatar, and I have a vague recollection of a transfer (most of my recollections from the 70s are vague..:)), but I have no idea now what it looked like.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 02:25:47 AM
I'd also like to see that.  It could be scanned and easily turned into a DIY transfer.  They must have discontinued them by '77.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 18, 2010, 01:36:45 PM
George, if you could somehow post the graphic here, I could probably create  a new vector-based, hi-res file from it.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 18, 2010, 03:15:08 PM
No pressure............................but I am going to have my Tbird tat redone Thursday and could use this a starting off point. I was thinking of having a NR and a reverse X (crossed) under the Tbird logo.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: TBird1958 on August 18, 2010, 03:35:48 PM


  Mmmmmmmmmm  Bird tats!

I love mine  ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 18, 2010, 04:26:14 PM
Got mine done when I was 21.................................long time ago, needs some sprucing up.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Nocturnal on August 18, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/Nokturnalbass/Bass%20Stuff/TBirdtransfer.jpg)

See if this works.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 18, 2010, 05:02:37 PM
Cool - and thanks!
BTW, interesting how they didn't use an illustration of the Bicentennial in the artwork ???
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 18, 2010, 05:25:48 PM
Perfect ! Thanks !
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: OldManC on August 18, 2010, 08:41:14 PM
That's better than the one I had, which looked more faded. Thanks for posting that!
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Nocturnal on August 18, 2010, 09:11:11 PM
I've never tried to transfer it to cloth because I was afraid it would ruin it. I think they are too old to work properly anymore. I'd like to do something with it, but I have no idea what.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: JZumbro on August 18, 2010, 09:22:08 PM
It would be cool if someone with good photoshop skills could make a good clean copy of this.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 18, 2010, 10:17:44 PM
It would be cool if someone with good photoshop skills could make a good clean copy of this.

Between the fact that it's a t-shirt transfer (probably has release paper over the image) and the scan resolution, it's not really a Photoshop job - you can boost the color and sharpen it a bit, but the detail just isn't there to repair - you have to recreate it. I'm endeavoring to trace it in Adobe Illustrator and make actual vector art out of it, but it'll take a little time. Having said that, the processes used back in the '70s were considerably less sharp and precise than the way we do things now, so the art will definitely have a slightly different look to it - stay tuned.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: JZumbro on August 18, 2010, 10:22:23 PM
Cool, thanks! :toast:
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Denis on August 19, 2010, 04:35:11 AM
Between the fact that it's a t-shirt transfer (probably has release paper over the image) and the scan resolution, it's not really a Photoshop job - you can boost the color and sharpen it a bit, but the detail just isn't there to repair - you have to recreate it. I'm endeavoring to trace it in Adobe Illustrator and make actual vector art out of it, but it'll take a little time. Having said that, the processes used back in the '70s were considerably less sharp and precise than the way we do things now, so the art will definitely have a slightly different look to it - stay tuned.

That is a very cool image!
I was going to try it but have at it! I think you can change the vectored lines in Illustrator to slightly grainy ones, or you can export the Illustrator file into Photoshop and adjust it there.
I'm working on recreating the '60s bird now and realized it's not nearly as clean up close was when you casually look at it. When I finish the '60s I'm going to do the '76 p/g, then the '79 Bird.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 19, 2010, 06:47:18 PM
A quick knockoff with some subtle changes...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/TBirdArt.jpg)
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Lightyear on August 19, 2010, 06:52:45 PM
I like it! For quick it looks damn good!

What about dropping the Norlin era florish at the end of "Gibson" and centering "Gibson" over the bird?

To my eye the "Thunderbird" font looks a bit dated too.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 19, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
I like it! For quick it looks damn good!

What about dropping the Norlin era florish at the end of "Gibson" and centering "Gibson" over the bird?

To my eye the "Thunderbird" font looks a bit dated too.

I thought about that, but the purist part of me felt I should hold to the original layout. The font (it IS dated) is actually called "Thunderbird".

If there is mass discontent among the membership, I will yield. ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: TBird1958 on August 19, 2010, 08:15:21 PM


 Now Scott has something really nice to use with his tat, if I didn't already have a "standard" bird on one shoulder and the Nikki Sixx Iron Cross and bird on the other..........
Guess I could always get it as a tramp stamp  ;)
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: dadagoboi on August 19, 2010, 08:18:52 PM
Fantastic!  That's razor sharp.

I feel the same as Lightyear about the 'wild west' font and the Norlin  logo.  No big deal, they can be edited out easily.  The bird and the bass say it all for me.

The metallic color is beautiful but will be difficult to reproduce on my printer.  I like the original color.  Easily changed in Photoshop.  

Big thumbs up and THANKS!

Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Dave W on August 19, 2010, 09:22:03 PM
Nice work!

Be sure to do one up in black hardware for Uwe.  ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Nocturnal on August 19, 2010, 10:05:28 PM
Great job! That really looks nice. I do agree about centering Gibson & dropping the flourish. Maybe you could do a second one with the minor changes? Either way, you did a great job!
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 20, 2010, 04:17:17 AM
I get the feeling asking what color the bass should be or what font to use would be a slippery slope, so here's one everybody should agree upon - except for the black hardware thing, I guess...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/TBirdArtv2.jpg)
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: godofthunder on August 20, 2010, 04:25:48 AM
Nice work! Yeah get rid of the Norlin thingy. I do however like the dated Tbunderbird font  ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 20, 2010, 04:30:28 AM
Somebody asked for a solid color? Sorry, I couldn't resist this tribute. Anyone with Photoshop should be able to swing this to whatever they desire.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/TBirdArtv3.jpg)
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Denis on August 20, 2010, 04:36:08 AM
Somebody asked for a solid color? Sorry, I couldn't resist this tribute. Anyone with Photoshop should be able to swing this to whatever they desire.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/TBirdArtv3.jpg)

Hahahahaha! Hey Mark, this one has your name all over it! Those look great, Lowend! Stickers on clear backing of that would be awesome!
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 20, 2010, 05:01:37 AM
Hahahahaha! Hey Mark, this one has your name all over it! Those look great, Lowend! Stickers on clear backing of that would be awesome!
Thanks all.
I'll probably be receiving a "cease and desist" from Gibson's army of lawyers soon...
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: TBird1958 on August 20, 2010, 08:49:12 AM


 I better copy that art real quick! - Purple 'Birds rule  ;D

 So whaddaya guys think? Should I have that done in the traditional "tramp stamp" location, or perhaps just on one butt cheek?
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Highlander on August 20, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
There's always the option of one that folds it's wings away when not in an excited state... :o ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Lightyear on August 20, 2010, 05:26:28 PM

 I better copy that art real quick! - Purple 'Birds rule  ;D

 So whaddaya guys think? Should I have that done in the traditional "tramp stamp" location, or perhaps just on one butt cheek?

I say tramp stamp - for the good of the group as a whole!  Because I know that you'll post pics of the new tat and I can just forsee the "bird on ass" pic! :P ;D
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: JZumbro on August 22, 2010, 01:14:15 AM
Great job lowend1!
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Johnbob on August 27, 2010, 10:24:26 AM
Someone just put one up on Ebay. It's super cheap too. I'm sure one of you guys could spare $5.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150485462303&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_792wt_920
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Denis on August 27, 2010, 11:17:50 AM
Someone just put one up on Ebay. It's super cheap too. I'm sure one of you guys could spare $5.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150485462303&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_792wt_920

Neato!
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Nocturnal on August 27, 2010, 12:46:24 PM
I think these were going for $20 back when we got them so $5 would have been a good deal.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: dadagoboi on August 27, 2010, 01:01:56 PM
You can also buy decal paper for your printer since Lowend's already done the graphics for us.

http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Clear-Inkjet-Decal-Sheets/dp/B0013P6VX6

This is clear, white is also available.  Probably cheaper elsewhere.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 28, 2010, 05:45:36 AM
You can also buy decal paper for your printer since Lowend's already done the graphics for us.

http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Clear-Inkjet-Decal-Sheets/dp/B0013P6VX6

This is clear, white is also available.  Probably cheaper elsewhere.

Keep in mind that those sheets are for making waterslide decals. Also, if you buy clear sheets, any white areas will show up as clear (the white sheets will always produce a decal that will have to be trimmed to avoid having white area around the image). In most consumer printing applications (inkjet, laser), white areas are actually the absence of color - the image must rely on the media that is being printed on for any whites (like white paper). The one exception (in the "end user" market) were the Alps dye-sublimation printers, which would print with both white and metallic inks. Unfortunately, they stopped making these years ago, and any that are still floating around have to be maintained regularly. Can't run to Staples for ink cartridges. Your best bet would be to visit your local sign shop, where they can print on adhesive white vinyl, and possibly cut the shape by computer. Chances are you will have to pay by the linear foot (plus any setup charges) so you may as well print up a bunch.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: dadagoboi on August 28, 2010, 07:12:04 AM
Thanks Lightyear!  I've been doing DIY tees and waterslide logos for a while and hadn't gotten around to researching vinyl.  There are 8.5 x 11 white sheets available for around a buck a pop, you do have to cut them out yourself.  At some point I'm going to give them a try.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: Lightyear on August 28, 2010, 10:10:12 AM
You're welcome!  But did you mean Lowend?! ???

I work in the "copier/printer" industry and I guess you could say that I'm an expert in color output from these devices.  A white area will be a null area only.  Iron on transfer paper is available but I can tell you that the color is nowhere near what a traditional silk screen process will be - you just can't transfer enough ink to make the colors very bright.

You can have the file printed on self adhesive ink jet vinyl as well.  The file type will determine the clarity of the output and whether it can be scaled without pixilation.  The trim process is typically done on what is called a vinyl cutter - basically an inkjet plotter that that replaces the print heads with a razor cutter - these work on a vector process.  If you've ever seen the "name" stickers on the back of a soccer mommie's SUV these where done on a vinyl cutter.

I have been to one vendor that has a machine that will "paint" an image on fabric - replacing the silk screen process.  Too bad they couldn't make it work :sad:  To me it looked like the concept had surpassed current trechnology

Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: dadagoboi on August 28, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
 :-[sorry about the mixup!

Nothing beats silkscreen but I've had some acceptable results w/ the DIY stuff, both iron on and waterslide, haven't tried vinyl.  I'm aware of the limitations and don't expect miracles.  .psd files scale pretty well.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: lowend1 on August 28, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
You're welcome!  But did you mean Lowend?! ???

I work in the "copier/printer" industry and I guess you could say that I'm an expert in color output from these devices.  A white area will be a null area only.  Iron on transfer paper is available but I can tell you that the color is nowhere near what a traditional silk screen process will be - you just can't transfer enough ink to make the colors very bright.

You can have the file printed on self adhesive ink jet vinyl as well.  The file type will determine the clarity of the output and whether it can be scaled without pixilation.  The trim process is typically done on what is called a vinyl cutter - basically an inkjet plotter that that replaces the print heads with a razor cutter - these work on a vector process.  If you've ever seen the "name" stickers on the back of a soccer mommie's SUV these where done on a vinyl cutter.

I have been to one vendor that has a machine that will "paint" an image on fabric - replacing the silk screen process.  Too bad they couldn't make it work :sad:  To me it looked like the concept had surpassed current trechnology



Thanks, Lightyear, for a concise, coherent paragraph on the plotter cut vinyl process. I worked alot with vinyl back in the 90s, when it was way more primitive. Being able to print something onto adhesive vinyl and then have it cut in one process is a huge time saver.
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: stiles72 on August 31, 2010, 09:05:03 AM
Since Nikki has always been fond of 70's birds, maybe they should do a "Seventy-Sixx"  lol

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj401/stiles72/thunderbird/70-Sixx-Bird.jpg?t=1283270453)
Title: Re: '76 Thunderbird transfer
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2010, 10:47:41 AM
The Thunderbird eagle should be wearing black over-knee spike heel patent leather boots. Can anybody help out?