Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...

Started by Highlander, June 03, 2011, 02:42:15 PM

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Basvarken

Busy yes. But tight? Not really. Bruce falls out of the groove here and there. At least that's how I hear it...
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uwe

Jack never had a groove concept in a classic sense, his playing could be angular and he took liberties with time and meter (and on fretless: with notes!  :mrgreen: ) like, say, Carlos Santana does in his lead guitar playing. That is just him. The good JAE was no groove monster either (there, I said it), neither was Chris Squire. Robbie Shakespeare or Bernard Edwards they weren't!

Macca grooves! Without ever giving a thought to it I believe. And even though his rhythmic approach is pretty much meat and potatoes, but he swings in everything he does.
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From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W


D.M.N.

Yeah, I wouldn't equate groove with being tight necessarily. I've always thought you can play around the groove and still be tight with regards to timing and note placement, which I think this is a pretty good example of. I certainly wouldn't call this loose. I think Uwe's descriptor of angular is the perfect fit for Bruce's playing.

Basvarken

Maybe we agree. Depends how you define groove and sloppy.
A good groove -to me- is super tight without ever going against the cadence.
You can play before or after the beat. Push it or be lazy.

But Bruce just trips over a few bars there in all his non groovin busy playing. Like Buddy Miles and he were showing off how many notes they could play within a second.
Overplaying is seldom groovy.  :mrgreen:
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Dave W

For those who may have missed it, this link from No Treble's archives was shared on their FB page on 7/23. Jack with EB-3.

Buddy Guy, Jack Bruce, Buddy Miles, Dick Heckstall-Smith: Mary Had a Little Lamb (Live, 1969)

Pilgrim

Quote from: Dave W on July 26, 2017, 10:41:37 PM
For those who may have missed it, this link from No Treble's archives was shared on their FB page on 7/23. Jack with EB-3.

Buddy Guy, Jack Bruce, Buddy Miles, Dick Heckstall-Smith: Mary Had a Little Lamb (Live, 1969)

Jack is nowhere near grooving there - that's pure Jack the pirate freebooting all over!
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uwe

He's not even "locking in with the bass drum" - gasp! :o  Or - double-gasp!!  :o  :o - "playing in the pocket"!  :-X :-X

What's the world coming to when bassists don't follow the rule book?

And here, my friends, an iconic arch-example for groovy overplayin' at its best, and I mean Alvin not Leo (who sticks more to the script than he does with other songs of Ten Years After on this one):

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Pilgrim

I don't have a problem with Jack running wild on that earlier cut, it's just Jack doing what he did well.

I have always loved that Ten Years After cut. I think the bass does a great job of supporting the tune.
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."

uwe

Quote from: Pilgrim on July 27, 2017, 05:05:47 PM
I don't have a problem with Jack running wild on that earlier cut, it's just Jack doing what he did well.

I have always loved that Ten Years After cut. I think the bass does a great job of supporting the tune.

I wasn't doubting your appreciation of his musical piracy! Jack is Jack. If you want him to hijack your music, then don't ask him to play for you.  :mrgreen:
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

pjm

Ah Post Rock, don't know how any band can make it out of the delay and reverb drenched murk in that genre and get noticed but these guys did.
I like how the guitarist sit for the entire show, it's Post Rock, there's not much to look at anyway so might as well relax and sit down. I dig the Japanese take on "western style music" always with a quirky twist.
As for the EB3 you can hardly hear it, so deep in the mix, i like it.

Granny Gremlin

Nice!  Can't hear the Eb3 at all on my TV; gonna have to try cans later. 
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

4stringer77

Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Pilgrim

"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."

uwe

That was lovely - and good choreography and drumming too, his singing wasn't bad either. He should have practiced a bit more on guitar though - open tuninung would have helped!

And such a gifted and enthusiastic - if slightly verbose - interview partner!



We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...