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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: 66Atlas on April 25, 2016, 05:57:40 PM
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I watched the auction end the first time and was kind of shocked no one grabbed this. Granted the photos aren't great and could be hiding a lot, and the headstock repair/refin could turn some people off. I don't have any desire for a II but I thought i was a decent price even given the issues.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322086188686?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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The opening bid seems reasonable.
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I am tapped out at the moment, other wise I'd be all over it.
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kind of a sad reason this is being sold if you read further down.
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Does the 'II' nomenclature only ever denote a single pickup instrument?
I admit that I get easily tripped up by Thunderbird lore. For ages I thought the 'non-reverse' models were the 'reverse' models, because Dietrich's design came first, and had to be reversed to create the non-reverse design. I took 'reverse' to mean something happened to the design.
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Does the 'II' nomenclature only ever denote a single pickup instrument?
I admit that I get easily tripped up by Thunderbird lore. For ages I thought the 'non-reverse' models were the 'reverse' models, because Dietrich's design came first, and had to be reversed to create the non-reverse design. I took 'reverse' to mean something happened to the design.
It IS quite confusing, but yes, II is single pickup, IV is two pickups. Where this came from, I don't know. Number of coils? ???
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It IS quite confusing, but yes, II is single pickup, IV is two pickups. Where this came from, I don't know. Number of coils? ???
Couldn't be the number of coils, considering that Firebirds are designated I, III, V and VII.
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I always thought of the numbers as paired with the Firebirds and just never made a bass VI or Bass VIII? It's a shame because I would love a deluxe bass if they ever put one in to production. ;D
I & II - Single pickup, Dot inlays Guitar & Bass
III & IV - Dual Pickup, Dot inlays Guitar & Bass
V & (VI) Dual Pickup, Trap Inlays, Neck binding Guitar (no bass ever produced)
VII & (VIII) 3 pickup, trap inlays, neck binding Guitar (no bass ever produced)
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That makes sense. Or at least it made sense to someone at Gibson at the time.
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Good guess on the Roman anumeral designations. But you are incorrect, regarding the Thinderbird VIII never being produced.
There are less than 10....8 that I know of...a couple prototypes and a run of six in red and in white. One of the red ones was pictured on a Gibson calendar back around 1991. All dot necks.
This is the prototype I had, now at Casa de Uwe. The pearl Firebird stamped pickguard IS original to the bass.
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Oh great! now I have something impossibly unattainable to lust after the rest of my sad existence :mrgreen:
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Oh I completely missed the story on that one.
When did that TB VIII pop up?
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I always thought of the numbers as paired with the Firebirds and just never made a bass VI or Bass VIII? It's a shame because I would love a deluxe bass if they ever put one in to production. ;D
I & II - Single pickup, Dot inlays Guitar & Bass
III & IV - Dual Pickup, Dot inlays Guitar & Bass
V & (VI) Dual Pickup, Trap Inlays, Neck binding Guitar (no bass ever produced)
VII & (VIII) 3 pickup, trap inlays, neck binding Guitar (no bass ever produced)
F'bird VII has block inlays.
If you want a "deluxe" bass, you'll have to pry it from Uwe's cold dead hands - and fight me for it ;D
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/Korina%20CS%20TBird1_zpsufon5xua.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/Korina%20CS%20TBird1_zpsufon5xua.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/Korina%20CS%20TBird2_zps3wwbsop3.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/Korina%20CS%20TBird2_zps3wwbsop3.jpg.html)
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I stand corrected on the inlays...and I had to know someone would post the photos of the Korina bird. Every time I see that my heart races, I get a cold sweat and pass out.
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I stand corrected on the inlays...and I had to know someone would post the photos of the Korina bird. Every time I see that my heart races, I get a cold sweat and pass out.
:mrgreen:
After you regain consciousness, keep reminding yourself that Gibson originally bought korina as a cheaper substitute for mahogany.
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Oh I completely missed the story on that one.
When did that TB VIII pop up?
They made them in late 1990- early '91. I got the black stamped prototype around 2005 or so. I sold it to Uwe in a moment of weakness and having to pay a huge property tax bill a couple years ago.
I have seen four of the other ones...two of the white and two of the red, not countinng the one on the Gbson calendar. The production ones all seem to have gld hardware and PUPs.
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I stand corrected on the inlays...and I had to know someone would post the photos of the Korina bird. Every time I see that my heart races, I get a cold sweat and pass out.
It's the one bass I truly lust after. Everything else is a passing fancy.
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"I sold it to Uwe in a moment of weakness and having to pay a huge property tax bill a couple years ago ...".
Hey, I'm the Lucy of this forum, equipped with a good, selfless heart, yet everyone prefers to misunderstand my intentions!
(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1900000/Lucy-peanuts-1992629-1024-768.jpg)
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:mrgreen:
After you regain consciousness, keep reminding yourself that Gibson originally bought korina as a cheaper substitute for mahogany.
And that the Korina didn't take well to the tobacco sunburst fin so that my good countryman Francis B. chose to leave the Korinabird behind at Gibson where it lay rotting in the corner for years until a young luthier called Phil Jones thought he'd "do something with it", scraped off the fin and wound himself some pups on 60ies specs. I don't know whether the block inlays were his idea (he digs Jazz Basses) or Francis' (for better fret board orientation on stage) though.
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"I sold it to Uwe in a moment of weakness and having to pay a huge property tax bill a couple years ago ...".
Hey, I'm the Lucy of this forum, equipped with a good, selfless heart, yet everyone prefers to misunderstand my intentions!
Forgive us, it's your heritage...
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Ohhh!
Hit me with your rhythm stick! :-*
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:mrgreen:
After you regain consciousness, keep reminding yourself that Gibson originally bought korina as a cheaper substitute for mahogany.
So the idea was to offer a Cheap Blonde alternative? I've never turned down a blonde.
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Korina - for all its nice sound qualities - has a look that can only be described as non-descript. It was a cheapish furniture wood in the 50ies. My luthier built me a bass out of wood from an old bed. And for some reason, that wood doesn't react well with (at least some) fins, the dark blue original fin turned into a hideous mix of sepia and purple/lilac over the years.
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Well it looks like the TB II actually had a winning bidder at $2025 the second time but it must have fallen through because it's been relisted yet again with a 2K buy it now. I'm tempted but think I'll save up to hire a team of retired Navy seals to invade Germany and "liberate" the Korina Bird.
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Well it looks like the TB II actually had a winning bidder at $2025 the second time but it must have fallen through because it's been relisted yet again with a 2K buy it now. I'm tempted but think I'll save up to hire a team of retired Navy seals to invade Germany and "liberate" the Korina Bird.
Once? It could possibly have fallen through. Twice, no way. When an auction has a winner twice and gets relisted both times, you can bet that the "winner" was the shill-bidding seller or an accomplice.
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To be fair I should clarify that the first time he listed it the auction ended with no winner, only the second time it had a winner at $2025 (near the last second of the auction). It wouldn't surprise me at all if he didn't have a shill bidder jumping on it to test the limits of the opening bid only to be disappointed to find out the first bidder had only put in 2K. Could be he's now trying to entice that individual back by offer a BIN at his opening bid amount.
Either way the photo's are terrible (though not the worst I've seen). I never will understand high dollar auctions with miserable cell phone pics in dim lighting...unless you're hiding something.
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Good to be fair, I was the winning bidder, there were unsolved shipping address issues, the tranasaction was cancelled by the seller.
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Thanks, good to know it was legit.
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So the idea was to offer a Cheap Blonde alternative?
Cheaper Blonde alternative is my nickname for my girlfriend.
Nevermind.... :o
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South Austin Music has a '64 II for sale but it is pricey.