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Title: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: JimmyBond8 on June 17, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
I've been wanting to put Competition Racing Stripes on my Gibson Thunderbird Studio since before I even won mine on Ebay. But I'm not a big fan of making permanent cosmetic changes to instruments (Cars, amps, or anything else for that matter; unless it makes them better somehow).
So... I've been looking to see if I could find some sort of removable "Static Cling" type decals that I could cut to size and put over the finish.

I know if I leave them on there too long they'll eventually fade/corrode the finish. But I figured the effect could be less permanent this way. And I could just get in a habit of removing and reapplying them I suppose.

I wondered if something like the 'Scratch Pad' might be modified for this use. If you haven't heard if it before, since they are relatively new, The Scratch Pad is a removable guard designed to protect the back finish of the guitar/bass that typically gets minor scratches and 'buckle rash'. Also they're marketing it to Stores as a way to protect the guitars they're selling. http://www.scratchpadusa.com/index.html
The only downside with the Scratch Pad is that they come in limited colors and seem to be velvet covered. Plus they have been known to have adverse effects on Nitrocellulose finished instruments.

So I thought I'd bring my question here, and see if you guys had any suggestion/ideas that I might be able to investigate and use to do this.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: drbassman on June 17, 2008, 06:38:44 PM
You've answered your own questions really.   Anything you do will affect the finish eventually.  you're kind of stuck.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Barklessdog on June 19, 2008, 04:13:45 AM
Since it's a modern bass I would just paint them on professionly. I would not worry about the value all that much, as painting stripes, well done would not depreciate that bad, in fact if done well my not decrease it at all.

It's your bass, make it the way yo want it.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: drbassman on June 19, 2008, 06:55:33 AM
I agree.  It's not a special or vintage bass, paint it however you like.  The more professionally you do it, the better.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Chris P. on June 27, 2008, 08:08:26 AM
Paint it and keep us posted!

I still have my EB0 project on which i want to have competition stripes. Like the Gibson SG GT series.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: JimmyBond8 on June 27, 2008, 03:08:49 PM
You guys make excellent points. I may just end up doing that. Might have to wait till I've got a little 'off time' from using it non-stop; maybe this fall or winter. Any suggestions on going about that??

I looked over a few articles on the net (most were just general 'Painting a Guitar' guides) that had some pretty decent instructions.  To oversimplify what I read, they suggested taping off (with auto detail tape? I think) and covering the parts to not paint with thick plastic. I guess you'd have to sand/scuff the orig sealer to give the paint something to adhere to. Then Spraying on a few coats of some Quality Auto Spraypaint. Then sealing it with some nitrocellulose sealer? Would you have to sand/blend it in with the original?
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: drbassman on July 16, 2008, 06:06:14 PM
Go to this forum and look around, the best guitar finishers in the country hang out there:  http://www.reranch.com/reranch/
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 25, 2008, 03:28:56 PM
If I wanted temporary stripes, I'd go straight to my friendly auto parts store and get that same auto detailing pinstriping and trim tape. It comes in various colors and widths, and with a little practice I think you could easily do competition stripes like the old Fenders.

If you're worried about differential wear, just peel the tape off and try a different design next time.  You'd have plenty to spare from buying even a small roll.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: poomwah on July 29, 2008, 09:30:49 AM
pilgrim is onto something there... depending on how wide you want them... if you want them wider, go to a shop that makes vinyl signs or does automotive graphics,  buy a couple feet of the vinyl and cut it however you want it.  stays on as long as you want it to, but still comes off :]
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 31, 2008, 10:37:43 AM
Yeah, now that I think about it, I may try some striping tape on my black Jay Turser JT-401.  Who says a '54 P clone can't have racing stripes??????????  The black would be a perfect base color.

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/Photo_112107_004.jpg)
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Chris P. on August 01, 2008, 01:27:37 AM
Cool idea.
Using trim tape is a brilliant idea!
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: poomwah on August 01, 2008, 07:18:34 AM
pinstripe also makes a GREAT imitation binding :]
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/louisboogins/DSCF0258.jpg)
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Chris P. on August 01, 2008, 07:40:37 AM
Cool!
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 01, 2008, 08:59:09 AM
pinstripe also makes a GREAT imitation binding :]


Brilliant!

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Brilliant.jpg)

I also find myself thinking what an interesting touch the metallic or metalflake striping tape would be.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: poomwah on August 01, 2008, 10:34:21 AM
that would be awesome, metallic pinstripe,  I've toyed with the idea of using chrome on a black bass
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: JimmyBond8 on July 31, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
So after listening to your helpful advice, and a lot of helpful ideas they were, and finding the right size stripes (Which turned out to be 2 sets); I finally put stripes on my bird. I put them on... I guess a few months ago, But I never really got any good pics of it till now.

Here it is in all its post "mod" glory (White Bell Knobs, Metal Pointers, Stripes).

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/3774532655_4daf8f573d_m.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/3774531377_7d815c6d2f_m.jpg)

Also, thanks again for the ideas. I'm really considering selling that pinstripe binding idea to our guitarist for his tele.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: drbassman on July 31, 2009, 08:40:57 AM
Turned out great!  Looks like a giant competition Mustang.
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: leftybass on July 31, 2009, 11:57:03 AM
Speaking of, I'd always wanted a lefty Mustang Bass, but finding/affording one was impossible, so I finally settled on this SX short-scale, put the stripes on myself.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/iamthebassman/sxshorty009.jpg)
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 31, 2009, 08:58:06 PM
I bought some chrome striping tape to use on my Turser '54 P clone...maybe this weekend I'll remember to put it on!
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Highlander on August 03, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
I kinda like the idea of refins with a multicoloured edge to them, so...

If you refin with a variety of sizes of pinstripes and reposition to protect where you want to and spray again and... etc, etc...

At this point I usually get locked up in the soft room with the crayons...
Title: Re: Temporary Racing Stripes?
Post by: Denis on August 04, 2009, 04:57:31 AM
pinstripe also makes a GREAT imitation binding :]
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/louisboogins/DSCF0258.jpg)

Wow, that's hot! Love that green!