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Title: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: ilan on January 12, 2015, 10:55:46 PM
http://www.bassplayer.com/basses/1165/the-department-of-transportation-issues-instrument-carry-on-ruling/50086
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Dave W on January 12, 2015, 11:19:38 PM
That's good news, if everyone down the line gets the message.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 13, 2015, 06:12:06 AM
I'm not sure a bass (electric even) qualifies as a small instrument.  I know at least some of my hard cases won't fit in the overhead bin.  Even some guitars might not fit.  And if it don't fit it's not safe (legal) unless you buy an additional seat or gate check. 

Mostly, this is good news for larger brass, ukelele and violin players. .... though I wouldn't mind a few dozen more ukes getting smashed per year.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: gearHed289 on January 13, 2015, 09:17:12 AM
I've flown with a Jazz Bass in a gig bag in the overhead just FYI.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 13, 2015, 09:37:15 AM
You have balls, I wouldn't risk being forced to cabin check with a gigbag. 
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Pilgrim on January 13, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
The ongoing problem with carry-on has been that every airline, and every gate attendant, interpreted the rules differently. You were really at the mercy of the people at the gate, and any of them could require checking the instrument.

If the definition of a "small instrument" is not well stated, I'm not sure this will be much of an improvement.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2015, 12:37:32 PM
She-it... no prob with the private jet... :mrgreen:

Never gigged anywhere I couldn't drive to... don't intend to start now...
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: gearHed289 on January 14, 2015, 08:11:38 AM
You have balls, I wouldn't risk being forced to cabin check with a gigbag.

That's why I brought the Fender.  :P
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: OldManC on January 14, 2015, 12:16:52 PM
That's why I brought the Fender.  :P

It's times like this that I wish we had that smilley where the head rolls back and forth.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 14, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
I unbolted the neck of a tele once to fit it in my carry on.  No case.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Dave W on January 14, 2015, 05:50:49 PM
The ongoing problem with carry-on has been that every airline, and every gate attendant, interpreted the rules differently. You were really at the mercy of the people at the gate, and any of them could require checking the instrument.

If the definition of a "small instrument" is not well stated, I'm not sure this will be much of an improvement.

Here's the DOT statement: http://www.dot.gov/briefing-room/us-department-transportation-issues-final-rule-regarding-air-travel-musical

It's not 100% cut and dried but it does include guitar as a small instrument. And they're now required to allow it if there's space.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Pilgrim on January 14, 2015, 09:45:13 PM
That's good.  it definitely names a guitar specifically as included!  Encouraging.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Aussie Mark on January 15, 2015, 02:44:56 PM
Beware that if it won't fit in the overhead locker, and the vertical cabin closets are full, your bass will still have to fly as checked in baggage.   
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 15, 2015, 02:54:10 PM
They have vertical cabin closets?
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Aussie Mark on January 18, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
They have vertical cabin closets?

Yes - for hanging suit jackets etc - the vertical closets are usually located at the front of business class
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2015, 11:49:42 AM
They have vertical cabin closets?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, not much of a Business Class traveller, huh? Gotta do something about your Air Cannuck Aeroplan Miles

http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan/
 
for that coming upgrade, Jake. There are alternatives too:

http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/hr/program/partner/detail?nodeid=2497401&l=en


PS: For the avoidance of doubt: I only travel Business Class - whether professionally or private - from 4 hours flight time on upwards. And only for one thing: leg room, I could care less about the amenities. Give me a bottle of water and some legroom and I'm fine.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Pilgrim on January 19, 2015, 03:38:34 PM
Never traveled anything but "Economy seat on the wing," and not likely to.  Too expensive.  But I'm happy that you can afford to do so...someone has to keep the airlines in business.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: drbassman on January 20, 2015, 06:38:03 AM
They have vertical cabin closets?

Yep.  That's where they hung my daughter's wedding dress when she flew from Wichita to Rochester, NY last year.  She wasn't going to check that!
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2015, 06:51:04 AM
I understand!

A nice flight attendant will put your guitar or bass in a vertical closet even if you are travelling economy, I have had that happen to me when I was travelling with a bass in a gig bag - economy.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: westen44 on January 20, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
This topic got me interested in seeing what airfares are now.  I had assumed that since the price of oil had gone down, airfares would be going down, too.  But it appears that for the most part the airlines are simply pocketing their unexpected profits from cheap oil.  An article I just read had this to say:

airlines are "doing good things" with the extra money, but they're doing them "for everyone except the consumer."

airlines really don't have to listen to customers anymore, and they're not. They're listening to their bottom line."  (Because mergers have decreased competition.)
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Pilgrim on January 21, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
Seems to me that most airlines create "customer service" policies as little more than window dressing.  Meanwhile they're charging for everything but the air you breathe.  Book through their site or use their credit card and they throw you a couple of bones in terms of baggage charges or seating priority.

Southwest Airlines seems to be the most aware of how people respond to their policy changes.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2015, 03:58:15 PM
"Meanwhile they're charging for everything but the air you breathe."

Not true. Even that is a cost factor - they intentionally cut back on the oxygen percentage in the cabin air supply. That is why you tend to drowse off and why alcohol hits you twice as hard up in the air.  Or some people have headaches. Flying is like mountain climbing.
Title: Re: Bass aboard a plane - new ruling!
Post by: Highlander on January 23, 2015, 05:36:16 PM
The alternative is that the fuselage pops... then everyone falls out of the sky... too late for the oxy masks then... :vader:

No "oxygen" is used, just pressurisation of air cycled in from the outside world... I used to get the dubious pleasure of cleaning 747 pressure-relief valves, and scraping off 1/4" thick nicotine/tar deposits... :puke: