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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: PhilT on July 31, 2008, 06:26:35 AM
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According to another highly statistically significant survey, iPods are to blame for people not knowing the lyrics to songs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2474146/iPod-generation-doesnt-know-the-words.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2474146/iPod-generation-doesnt-know-the-words.html)
Apparently it's the "National Year of Reading" over here, which I first took to be Reading, pronounced "Redding", a town in southern England that holds a large annual rock festival. But,no, it's reading, as in books.
True to form, the Daily Star's write-up is more entertaining.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/45771/-Scuse-me-while-I-kiss-this-guy-fans-lost-for-words/%20%20%20 (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/45771/-Scuse-me-while-I-kiss-this-guy-fans-lost-for-words/%20%20%20)
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It went down the crapper with cassette & 8 track tapes.
CD's really killed the whole listening experience. Apple is just the latest step in the removal of half of the whole listen experience.
No more buying bands just for the cover art, or who played bass or drums that you know (you dont know jack now)
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No more buying bands just for the cover art, or who played bass or drums that you know (you dont know jack now)
Well, John, I suppose I ought to let you in on a secret: there's this thing called Google and you can use it to find out more about those bands than you ever could from an album cover or insert. Maybe even obscure lyrics.
I can't remember ever buying an album for the cover art.
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I can't remember ever buying an album for the cover art.
Man, I sure can!
(http://www.smyrskicreative.com/uploaded_images/Roxy_MusicCountry_Life-front-716808.jpg)
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I would go to used record & cut out records, try new bands by either cool covers, or have musicians from artists I really liked that had ever changing line ups, like King Crimson, Zappa, etc. Oh I liked Bruce Fowler, he played on this LP. I would buy it. A lot of great side musicians could lead to new band discoveries. Also I remember always looking at the import bins as well.
I don't know who played what where on CD's / downloads these days. Yes, you can research them online now, but it's hardly the same sitting in your room, listening to music studying every detail of the artists playing, the art work & how it relates to the music (Rick Wakeman's Solo stuff) and lyrics.
Now, unfortunately, I do not listen to music at home anymore, but by or download something discard the materials it came in and download it, then hit shuffle play. It's out of laziness nothing more.
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"I can't remember ever buying an album for the cover art."
That's a sad thing to say, Herr Westheimer, how could your adolescence have been so devoid of visual stimuli I cry? That Roxy album was iconic. And I unashamedly can name a few other albums I got interested in and eventually bought just for the cover (most of them were actually very good too):
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/54/Deep_Purple_in_Rock.jpg/200px-Deep_Purple_in_Rock.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416FXTEAC6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HSCBK96XL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1f/Diamond_dogs.jpg/200px-Diamond_dogs.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/IMG_9121.jpg/200px-IMG_9121.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51tYSFXeSnL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/Dressed_to_Kill_%28album%29_cover.jpg/200px-Dressed_to_Kill_%28album%29_cover.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/48/Kiss_alive_album_cover.jpg/200px-Kiss_alive_album_cover.jpg)
(http://www.literatura.hu/rock/hardrock/images/alice9.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q22KD8S8L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Too_Much_Too_Soon_-_The_New_York_Dolls.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/Demons_and_Wizards.jpg/200px-Demons_and_Wizards.jpg)
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/750/752381.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51q4AQ9vP2L._SL160_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XKTDV6DTL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q8Q72R3JL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51641YFDQEL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/Black_Sabbath_SbS.jpg)
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It wasn't. I thought plenty of album covers were cool, but a well done cover was never enough to make me buy an album.
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Who can forget Blind Faith ?- I could never buy that because of the cover.
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A good album has a matching cover. I bought albums which were totally unknown for me for the covers and they turned out great.
Skate Rat: Please don't read this: I sometimes buy CDs cos there's a cat on the cover. You can't go wrong with cat CDs.
Carole King - Tapestry
Ry Cooder - My Name Is Buddy
We Are Scientists - .....
Black Eyed Dog - Love Is A Dog From Hell (yes it has a cat on the cover!)
et cetera
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Who can forget Blind Faith ?- I could never buy that because of the cover.
Hmmm. That cover was the least of Blind Faith's problems. Our guitarist sent me an mp3 of Joe Bonamassa's version of "Had to Cry Today", which I liked so much I had to buy the album, and it was only then, reading the credits, I realised it was a Blind Faith song. So I went back to the original and discovered why it had totally escaped my notice before.
I'm having real trouble resisting the temptation to post the cover of "Houses of the Holy", but I must, so here's some more tasteful child-related cover art instead.
(http://www.mickaby.freeola.com/blodwyn_pig.jpg)
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Oh come on, what's wrong with Houses of the Holy? Not that I think that it is musically a great album (though it has its moments and JPJ's keyboard playing is nice on it) or that the cover might not give some people some thoughts (back then and today), but so do pictures of the most innocent inanimate objects if you have a fetish relationship to them. Let's not get carried away with PC. So ...
- for the benefit of historical accuracy
- and because it was/is a great cover (implying mythology, not child porn to me)
- and also because there is nothing wrong with children playing naked as long as adults don't draw the wrong conclusions from it (my daughter went through a phase when she was five or six when the first thing she would do when her girlfriends visited her was undress herself and then instigate them successfully to do the same - she eventually grew out of it!),
voilà HotH in full gatefold splendor:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/HOTHcover.JPG)
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Rock Stars are the greatest excepted child under age sex offenders of the modern age.
Signed
R Kelly
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Yes, and Jimmy Page worshipped Crowley who had an unhealthy interest not only in the occult, but also in minors. Still, that doesn't devalue the cover as a piece of art.
I always had a "children's souls ascending to some other world"-association with that pic. When Robert Plant's child died not so long after, the image I had of his child (I never saw a picture of it) was that of the children of Houses of the Holy. And I somehow associate it with Nicholas Roeg's dark classic "Don't look now!" too.
Uwe
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With Yes it was all about the cover art.
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I have some cover art books, which are very interesting. The children on the LedZep LP are just one boy and one girl. There's an interview in one of the books with the boy. He said he always went to record stores with girls to show them the record... which never impressed them:)
He also says he wants to make a new version of the cover when he's 80, with an all wrinkly ass;)
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this is cool...
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x120/yrofrat/i001.jpg)
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That's a legend!
I just bought 'Jesus of Cool' of Nick Lowe on CD recently, which has a similar sleeve, but with Nick as a kinda Jesus:)
That album had another title in the US cos they were afraid of the reactions.
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With Yes it was all about the cover art.
I'm restraining myself here, but it's difficult. ;D
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I'm restraining myself here, but it's difficult. ;D
I attempted to exercise restraint in the matter of "Houses of the Holy", but I was trampled under foot by Ze Glöbal Möderator, so I think you should let it out, whatever it is you're holding in.
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I attempted to exercise restraint in the matter of "Houses of the Holy", but I was trampled under foot by Ze Glöbal Möderator, so I think you should let it out, whatever it is you're holding in.
It would have been another one of my snarky anti-prog comments.
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What Dave really needs is a gentle prog aversion desensitivation/conditioning like listening to all of Tales of Topographic Oceans on a headset tied to a chair at maximum volume.
Yes, the tried and trusted Ludovico Technique should do it. By side 3 and the umpteenth synth solo in an awkward time signature, Dave should be more receptive to the whole concept of prog and look something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Clockwork%2771.jpg)
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I had to look that up to find out what it was.
At least it's not fusion. There -- I've said something about prog that isn't negative. :)
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I had to think about it (it's been a few years!) but this is one of the covers I bought because it was cool. And the music was pretty damn good too. (hey, I was 14 when it came out!)
(http://forgottenboy.goldminemag.com/content/binary/kiss_destroyer.jpg)
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I remember seeing Black Sabbath's lp under a black light. Very impressive to a kid.
I actually like my ipod. If the amount of stuff on there were lps, it would crash through the floor. Very convenient. Sounds better than most stuff. I would say nowadays I divide my listening to 30% Ipod, 60% lp. The other 10% gets split up over 45s, Cassettes, 8-Tracks, 78s, radio, MDs, CDs and a teensy amount to Reel-to-Reel. For all intents and purposes, CDs are worthless to me know. I think they take up too much room in comparison, they are "soul-less" and I haven't bought one for ages. Can't even fathom it. You can download most classic rock stuff for free now if you know how to look.
No playtape or hitclips anymore.
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do you remember the moment you discovered RocknRoll ? i do. i remember being a little kid and going through my fathers records.i found the one with the coolest cover.Black Sabbath "Sabbath bloody Sabbath" it's been down hill ever since
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As a kid I had parents listening to terrible Dutch music and a brother who liked Sting. Not much of a good start... A neighbour was into Dire Straits and Queen, which was a bit more rock 'n roll...
The first time I really saw the light (and it really felt like that!) was when I saw The Blues Brothers as a youngster. Even when I wasn't a bassist yet, I loved Duck Dunn's lines, though I hadn't a clue who it was and how important the guy was.
The second time I saw the light was when I accidently ran into The Last Waltz on tv, right in the middle of the 'We ain't paying you much, but you'll get more pussy than Frank Sinatra' part. 'Quite interesting'I thought and I watched the movie.
It was only some years ago I realized all the music I like is soul based. The Who, The Jam, The Band, The Small Faces, Paul Weller, The Stone Roses, Primal Scream, STAX and a Dutch guy named Herman Brood. I also discovered they accidently (sometimes...) did a lot of the same covers.
Weller and Brood both did There Ain't No Love by Bobby Bland and Heatwave.
Heatwave was also done by The Who.
The Who and Brood were both into Mose Allison (which I love|).
Of course Weller did lots of Who and TSF songs...
The Band, Brood and The Who all did Don't Do It.
And so on...
A while ago I spotted a similarity between 'Love Spreads' by The Stone Roses and B Movie Box Car Blues as performed by the Blues Brothers on their first cd, before the movie.
Back to the point: I don't know if the Blues Brothers started my love of soul or it was already in me, bu that movie meant a lot to me!
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do you remember the moment you discovered RocknRoll ? i do. i remember being a little kid and going through my fathers records.i found the one with the coolest cover.Black Sabbath "Sabbath bloody Sabbath" it's been down hill ever since
No such luck for us oldies. I think I must have been about 4, my mother was in the kitchen and I'd been left in the dining room with the radio on. It was "Woman's Hour", a BBC magazine show aimed at middle class housewives, and an item came on about Rock'n'Roll. From what little I remember it was pitched at explaining this strange craze to mothers who found their teenager's obsession with it utterly bewildering. For some reason I just remembered the name. Years later, when I started buying records by The Shadows, singles covers were paper and just different colours depending on the record company, and LP covers just had boring photos of the group. The first interesting cover I bought was Cream's Disraeli Gears.
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do you remember the moment you discovered RocknRoll ? i do. i remember being a little kid and going through my fathers records.i found the one with the coolest cover.Black Sabbath "Sabbath bloody Sabbath" it's been down hill ever since
I remember the first time I heard "Rock Around The Clock" -- when it was first released. :o
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My inauguration to real rock music was Alice Cooper's School's Out and Hawkwind's Silver Machine. Both tracks had me stunned. It was music from another world that immediately fascinated me.
Uwe
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I vaguely remember seeing cinema posters with pictures of Bill Haley on.