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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Denis on December 19, 2014, 06:57:38 AM

Title: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Denis on December 19, 2014, 06:57:38 AM: is why someone should have bought those NOS 20/20 electronics a couple of months ago!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-20-20-Ned-Steinberger-Bass-Neck-New-Old-Stock-/191450618615?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2c93589af7
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 19, 2014, 04:09:52 PM: My neck has some odd finish cracks, this might be the ticket. Even the serial number is right with the last digit missing...........

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020_zps0f0eebe2.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020_zps0f0eebe2.jpg.html)
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020Neck1_zps645c3089.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020Neck1_zps645c3089.jpg.html)
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020Neck2_zps43b18cbe.jpg)[/URL

I've been thinking of sending it somewhere, never thought I would find a nice neck............. Hell I'm putting in a bid! (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020Neck2_zps43b18cbe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Denis on December 20, 2014, 05:59:56 AM: It's even the right color!!!!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 20, 2014, 06:38:45 AM: Everything is identical with the exception of the truss rod adjuster. Also, it looks like it may not have the final (nitro) finish on it yet. The Black looks dull. The main thing is the Luna Silver! I cant think of any thing else in this color. I'd been planning for years to send the neck somewhere for touch up or a refin. The paint has peeled off almost as if the wood had oil or something on it before it was sprayed. My sons Q-80 neck is doing the same thing in a few spots. Thanks for posting it! The likelihood of anybody else bidding on it is slim............ :o

If you wait long enough, anything you could possibly need, eventually comes up on eBay. This has got to be the unlikeliest part ever!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Basvarken on December 20, 2014, 06:44:11 AM: I was just about to.
But I'll back off ;)
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 20, 2014, 12:44:46 PM: Quote from: Basvarken on December 20, 2014, 06:44:11 AM
I was just about to.
But I'll back off ;)

Is your neck funky also??

It looks like some modifying will be necessary for the truss rod nut.............
(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020Neck3_zpsfc15c1f1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020Neck3_zpsfc15c1f1.jpg.html)
The NOS neck has a totally different allen wrench type of nut. There isn't enough clearance in the body or the pickguard to adjust it. I'll have to try to machine up a custom brass nut......

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/NewNeck_zps202d7c36.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/NewNeck_zps202d7c36.jpg.html)
It looks like the square opening in the NOS neck is smaller than my original neck. There must have been a change in design midstream.............
Maybe I can just switch nuts?....................
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Highlander on December 20, 2014, 12:50:40 PM: You'll probably be able to swop them over... can't see them changing the rod with such a limited run... this may have been fitted because someone has lost the "original"...?
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Basvarken on December 20, 2014, 12:52:57 PM: The neck on mine has some stress marks in the finish too. But not as severe as yours.
And the brass nut is slightly damaged from older attempts to tighten it with the wrong size tool.

Not that I ever needed to adjust it.
So go ahead and bid. Goodluck!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 20, 2014, 01:03:17 PM: I threw a bid in yesterday, so far I'm the only bidder.

My nut is kind of chewed up also. If I make any, I'll make a couple............ The Ferrari Red bass is almost mint. Doesn't look like it ever needed adjustment.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 21, 2014, 08:40:29 AM: Looks like this seller is the same one that posted the loaded pick guard earlier........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-20-20-Ned-Steinberger-Bass-Loaded-pickguard-pickups-control-harness-/201182941569?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2ed7701181

I wonder what other stuff he has in storage............
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2014, 12:41:13 PM: Mine came from Italy at the time with the exactly right size wrench. Very thoughtful the seller was.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on December 22, 2014, 06:43:33 PM: I just sent payment for the neck, won it for the minimum bid of $159.99....................... :P
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: dadagoboi on December 23, 2014, 04:54:15 AM: Congrats!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on January 04, 2015, 09:13:55 AM: I brought the bass & neck in to get the neck sprayed with nitro, last Friday. It was only painted prior to sitting on a shelf for 25 years. I stamped a "9" for the last digit of the serial number, now that matches the original. With the exception of non-yellowed nitro, it should match perfectly. I received an email from eBay yesterday, congratulating me on my 12 year anniversary with them. This neck has to be the most unlikely find in 12 years of buying some of the most obscure stuff made for guitars! :P :P :P
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Highlander on January 04, 2015, 01:05:47 PM: What's the plans for the old neck...?
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on January 04, 2015, 01:50:44 PM: Quote from: Highlander on January 04, 2015, 01:05:47 PM
What's the plans for the old neck...?

No big plans. If this new neck works out, I'll just keep it together with the bass. If it doesn't work out, I'll look into refinishing it as was the original plan. If one of the LBO Brothers ends up with an unfortunate neck accident, it may have to go back to work..........
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Highlander on January 04, 2015, 05:37:39 PM: That makes sense...

I don't know if you go down the un-metalled road but otherwise it could be a fretless candidate... ;)
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on January 05, 2015, 12:38:05 PM: I just ran into this on the Gibson web page.................. mentions the 20/20............

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/A-Guitar-Geek-s-Guide-to-Gibson-Basses.aspx
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Dave W on January 05, 2015, 08:50:04 PM: Quote from: Grog on January 05, 2015, 12:38:05 PM
I just ran into this on the Gibson web page.................. mentions the 20/20............

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/A-Guitar-Geek-s-Guide-to-Gibson-Basses.aspx

Whaddaya know, they published an article that's somewhat knowledgeable.

You and the other 20/20 owners ought to speak up in the comments.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on February 09, 2015, 05:16:37 PM: The 20/20 re-neck project was finished today. I think he did a great job! The nitro on the neck has to yellow a bit to be a perfect match, but I think the new neck is a huge improvement, plays great too!

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020done2_zpsfdb8d4d9.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020done2_zpsfdb8d4d9.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/2020done1_zps11857d90.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/2020done1_zps11857d90.jpg.html)
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Highlander on February 09, 2015, 05:35:51 PM: Nice work...
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: dadagoboi on February 09, 2015, 05:42:34 PM: Sweet!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: OldManC on February 09, 2015, 05:48:51 PM: Turned out great!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Denis on February 09, 2015, 06:25:09 PM: Awesome! I'm really glad it turned out so well!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on February 09, 2015, 07:25:56 PM: Thanks! It's nice when things go according to plan.......... Thanks Denis for posting it in the first place! ;D ;D
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Dave W on February 09, 2015, 09:51:48 PM: Nice, George. Who did the finishing work?
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on February 10, 2015, 04:58:35 AM: Quote from: Dave W on February 09, 2015, 09:51:48 PM
Nice, George. Who did the finishing work?

Bill Hager, (Benedict Guitars). Just north of you on 65.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Dave W on February 10, 2015, 07:52:29 AM: Quote from: Grog on February 10, 2015, 04:58:35 AM
Bill Hager, (Benedict Guitars). Just north of you on 65.

I had no idea they were anywhere near me. Either the shop must not be open to the public, or I just haven't noticed.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on February 10, 2015, 08:11:26 AM: He has a shop behind his house, just off of Viking Blvd. I run into him a few months back buying something he had for sale off Craigslist. I think it's the same place I bought my EB-0F at Roger Benedict's Estate sale.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Basvarken on February 10, 2015, 11:25:37 AM: Looking good George!
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Dave W on February 10, 2015, 03:37:59 PM: Quote from: Grog on February 10, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
He has a shop behind his house, just off of Viking Blvd. I run into him a few months back buying something he had for sale off Craigslist. I think it's the same place I bought my EB-0F at Roger Benedict's Estate sale.

Viking Blvd. is farther from me than you are! I'm near 47 and 694.
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on February 10, 2015, 06:48:22 PM: Quote from: Dave W on February 10, 2015, 03:37:59 PM
Viking Blvd. is farther from me than you are! I'm near 47 and 694.

Southern Fridley? LOL............ As a kid, Fridley seemed so far north to me, I guess it isn't anymore...................
Title: Re: This NOS 20/20 neck...
Post by: Grog on April 07, 2021, 07:19:48 AM: I pulled this bass out for the first time in ages. Surprisingly, it was almost in perfect tune. I took it to practice & played it for almost 4 hours, played & sounded great! The neck finish has yellowed almost to a perfect match to the body. It even worked well with my wireless gizmo, being active I didn’t think it would....... Hard to believe it’s been over six years since I had the NOS neck installed! Time flys!