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slinkp

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Dyed maple?
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:01:11 AM »
I like bright-sounding fretboards like Ebony and Maple.  I don't much care for the look of maple boards, though.

Now, I'm not fully up on the story with availability / ethics of using ebony, and don't really want to start a thread about that; but I had a random idea that I wanted to explore:  Is it possible to dye maple to look like a really dark wood?

... without it looking like crap? :)

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 11:12:02 AM »
Sure. Violin (/cello /upright bass) makers have done it for ages with low-end instruments, for the fingerboard they use "ebonized" maple.

Rickenbacker did enameled freboards on their 4003SPC models - Blackstar, Tuxedo and Redneck, matching the color of the body (black, white or red). Traditionally Rics have bubinga (african rosewood) fretboards, but rosewood is open-pore and for the enameled boards they needed close-pore wood, so they used maple.
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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 02:18:32 PM »
Thanks Ilan for satisfying my curiosity.  Whether I will ever get to use this information is another matter... but hey, thinking about basses keeps me sane at work!
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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 11:32:42 AM »
It can be hard to make it really black might look up ebonizing to get some ideas.

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 02:54:53 PM »
old banjos that were relatively inexpensive often used dyed pearwood for fingerboards and peghead overlays...

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 07:05:48 PM »
I would start here: http://www.homesteadfinishingproducts.com/htdocs/TransTint.htm

Transtint makes liquid dyes that you can mix with water or alcohol, the latter preferred in your application I would think, that can be applied as strongly as desired.  I've used their powdered dyes in the past with great results.

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 02:07:23 PM »
I have used both black & blue(blue not on fret board) to dye wood in the bat with good results.
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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 05:50:17 PM »
I've used black and green and they are both really consistant.  I used them on curly maple which is sometimes easier to color as little variances don't matter as much.

This is worth a watch or two and James is a bassplayer.

http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsArticle.aspx?id=30136

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 07:37:12 PM »
Transtint are metal acid dyes and should work well on maple.

IMHO nothing wrong with flat black paint either, depending on the look you're after.

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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 07:41:16 AM »


This is worth a watch or two and James is a bassplayer.

http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsArticle.aspx?id=30136
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I saw this vid a couple years back. Awesome results>
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Re: Dyed maple?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 08:58:46 AM »
black leather dye (the alcohol based stuff) is relatively cheap and works well, especially with a lacquer topcoat.