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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson lap steels and Thunderbird pickups
« on: March 03, 2012, 04:33:16 PM »
No, that pickup is not similar. It's the conventional humbucker design, as mentioned in the excerpt from Duchossoir's book.

I expect the internals are not similar - I do wonder about the cover, however, as it looks like it could be from the same die (curious if the size is the same - it looks close).

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson lap steels and Thunderbird pickups
« on: March 03, 2012, 03:54:11 PM »
I may have to go back and buy this thing, why I don't know. But with the Thunderbird connection and besides it is just so beautiful.

I agree. I have this just because (I think) it's so beautiful:

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson lap steels and Thunderbird pickups
« on: March 03, 2012, 03:27:33 PM »
Way cool. (and pedals, too) Sure does look similar - deluxe version with adjustable polepieces rather than the bar magnets.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson lap steels and Thunderbird pickups
« on: March 03, 2012, 02:22:13 PM »
I've also heard this for a long time - at least 20-25 years - first time may have been from Paul Chandler when I worked at Gary Brawer Stringed Instrument Repair in San Francisco (not certain on that but heard the same quite a few other times). Mike Lull and Jeff Ament spoke about this recently with Bass Player mag (I had mentioned that to Jeff years ago as well)

ML I was a Thunderbird fanatic back in the ’70s, and I’ve owned a bunch of them. But I found them to always be a little unwieldy—they played kinda funny and sounded tremendous. And what says “rock” more than a Thunderbird bass? I hated the ergonomics, but loved the sound. So I put my mind to making a bass that balanced well, and sounded like the originals. It was more of a task than I thought. We designed a new bridge and tailpiece. I took a set of original ’64 Thunderbird pickups apart and found out exactly why they sounded the way they did. I started making pickup covers out of a nickel-silver alloy, magnets out of alnico 4. A typical humbucker has two coils and a magnet down below. This one has two coils with the magnet standing vertically between them. The result is a thin, very high-output humbucker. The neck pickup measures 8k [resonant frequency], and the neck pickup is 9k. The steel base plate becomes part of the magnet structure. I had to have all these pieces made from scratch. In the process of researching this project, I found the company that made pickup covers for Gibson back in the ’60s.
    JA Those original pickups were for lap steel guitar, right?
    ML Gibson had discontinued an 8-string lap steel in 1962, and they had a ton of these pickup coils laying around. They took two of those coils, stuck them to a steel base plate, and put a nickel-silver alloy cover on it, and suddenly they had a new bass pickup. So I made them just like that. The T-Bass pickup sounds exactly like the original ‘60s Thunderbird pickup, but they’re more consistent.

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Gibson Basses / Re: More on the Gibson raid
« on: September 30, 2011, 02:29:37 AM »
..and I was just addressing Uwe's comment that was obviously informed by the Mother Jones article. Unlike their conservative counterparts, the folks at Mother Jones have a sense of humor and sometimes use their hyperbole jokingly, and I just wanted to make it clear to him that calling Henry the 'darling of the Tea Party' was a half-joke in case he wasn't familiar with the source.

The audience for the "SWAT team" comment is the same people who believe Obama is a muslim socialist hell bent on destroying the country. Facts are immaterial to them.


Agree and agree.

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Gibson Basses / Re: More on the Gibson raid
« on: September 29, 2011, 11:04:36 PM »
Mother Jones was being more than a little hyperbolic; they're the left's equivalent to the Wall Street Journal and Faux News.

My point was not the article itself, it was the DOJ/DOI letter that it linked to.
Interesting to me was that letter specifically denies use of SWAT or similar tactical teams re: Gibson - while this has been the characterization (often with the obligatory Nazi references) and de facto perception by many (an at least equally reactionary version here: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278379/gibson-raid-much-fret-about-pat-nolan?page=1 ) but also in less obviously political coverage. This made me think that I had, in fact, seen no evidence of SWAT personnel, gear, helmets, flak jackets or weapons beyond standard side arms (all the photos showing the investigation team seem to support DOJ/DOI's assertion), and realize that the only evidence I am aware of are Henry J's assertions (hardly a disinterested source - and, yes, one could say the same for DOJ/DOI) and that of those repeating him. I could be wrong - and am not really arguing that there were no SWAT teams - only that there seems to be a conspicuous lack of evidence beyond hearsay for something that many are throwing around as absolute fact - especially in an age when everyone has instant photo/video capacity - and it is certainly possible I've missed something that would back up Henry's version.

I do think the virtue of the Media Matters piece is that it is non-hyperbolic, well researched and substantiated.

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Gibson Basses / Re: More on the Gibson raid
« on: September 26, 2011, 11:53:38 PM »

Another interesting article on it: http://motherjones.com/environment/2011/09/tea-party-gibson-guitar-wood -- perhaps inappropriately political for this forum but specifically interesting was the DOJ/DOI letter https://motherjones.com/files/doj_-_doi_response_re_gibson_guitar.pdf as it addresses the issue of SWAT teams used in the  raid (I wondered if that had been hype as the photos I saw didn't look that way - baseball caps, beige shirts, military cargo pants, and pistols - I didn't see larger weapons - perhaps I missed them?)
"Law enforcement agents are required to carry side arms during the execution of warrants for their own protection and generally wear clothing and badges identifying themselves as law enforcement. SWAT teams and similar tactical units were not used in the execution of the warrants at Gibson's facilities."

Also interesting in that letter, for those with anxiety about personal instruments: "Finally, people who unknowingly possess a musical instrument or other object containing wood that was illegally taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of law and who, in the exercise of due care, would not have known it was illegal, do not have criminal exposure. The Federal Government focuses its enforcement efforts on those who are removing protected species from the wild and making a profit by trafficking in them."

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson got raided again today by the Feds
« on: August 27, 2011, 02:39:23 AM »
this is as inane as having shipped basses without trussrods.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

I'm rubbing my eyes. How is this company being run? If this was a Clifford Chance client, the involved team would have a lot to answer to. A frigging disaster, no less.

A bit off topic but I have to ask, is this really true? (shipped basses without trussrods)

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird Friendly Stands
« on: June 19, 2011, 10:49:53 PM »
Ultimate - if it's tall enough.

I'd think that headstock-mounting stands in general would work.

+1 the Ultimate stand works well.

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The Embassy basses are great but I'll put a vote in for the 60s reverse birds. I had both at the same time and just preferred the neck carve, general feel and tone on the t-bird - oddly, the reverse birds are really comfortable for me - I had more dive/balance issues with the Embassy - though I think that issue is exaggerated all the way around. Upper register access (at least above the 17th fret) is a legit gripe on the reverse birds though not much of an issue for me personally - though I will say the upper register sounds better on that bass than any other I've had  :-\

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson Pelham Blue - Question...
« on: May 22, 2011, 09:04:03 AM »
Thanks, Carlo,

that's the same as on my '64. I had another '64 which I think was the same (but sold it in the mid '90s so don't recall exactly) and that was unbroken and the finish original.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Gibson Pelham Blue - Question...
« on: May 22, 2011, 02:08:37 AM »
Sorry to resurrect a near dead thread (though always nice to look at Phelham Blue examples IMO...),

The question about how "the raised center section taper off and blend into the body sides by the fret board" got me thinking, I've seen '60s reverse birds both ways (with taper and without) that looked legit in all other regards (including finish).
Anyone know what the straight story is on that? One way on the early ones and the other on the later ones?

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Gibson Basses / Re: 60s Rivoli reissue on the way?
« on: April 11, 2011, 01:11:05 PM »
Seriously: The guy from Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. He plays Rivolis and EB-2s all the time and says he favors his Rivoli over the Gibbie. Plus he's sufficently young and BRMC have that Indie Rock image the Epi crowd goes for.

That would be Robert Levon Been. His dad was a terrific bass player (Michael Been who fronted The Call) - though usually played an Ampeg scroll bass with a P-bass pup.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Need pix of the brothers!
« on: February 16, 2011, 05:51:18 AM »
Carlo is that Tom Petty? Sure looks like it to me!

I thought the same thing...

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Gibson Basses / Re: Need pix of the brothers!
« on: February 15, 2011, 02:52:36 PM »
999 - Love that aluminum upright, that's just simply stunning.

Thanks very much!
It was a huge amount of work; I got it in pieces and just polishing it out was weeks. Sounds really good and is a sensation on stage - and looks great with the colored lights!

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