The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: morrow on August 13, 2020, 08:05:40 AM
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I had my eye out for years , hoping I might see one . I didn't want to buy one from Tokyo or Australia .
And then one popped up in Toronto .
Guilty pleasure .
I tend to use shortscales these days , but most of my bass playing was on upright or longscale bassas . This is a re-issue from around 2000 , and it is 34 in .
This might be the ultimate Japanese surf bass .
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Oh, YEAH!!!
I like it!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Great looking bass!
I'd love to get one day a late 60s SB-5A/SB-7A Flying Samurai (31.5" scale), but prices have risen sharply to $1,000-1,500.
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I was under the impression mine was a medium scale when I bought it . The originals in the mid 60's were . But the reissues were 34 , and mine is definitely a reissue .
I mostly play shortscales now .
But I'm enjoying it .
Did a gig with some old friends a couple of weeks ago , the band does a lot of instrumental classics and the Samurai was the perfect thing . ( it's really just a very funky Japanese take on a Jazz bass that kinda resembles an upside down Ric)
Strung with flats , used a pick for the surf instrumentals .
The perfect thing .
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Ilan , this set recently sold from Toronto , same seller that sold me my Samurai .
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Those are so cool...congrats!
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I'd love to get one day a late 60s SB-5A/SB-7A Flying Samurai (31.5" scale), but prices have risen sharply to $1,000-1,500.
Same here, actually looking for a 2A. But yeah, prices are going up.
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I usede to have a real '60s one. I bought it online and when it arrived the whole bass was much smaller than I'd expected! Great bass though. Sold it some years later, cos it didn't get any stage time.
There's a blue one with matching headstock in an Amsterdam store, but way overpriced, IMHO.
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There's a blue one with matching headstock in an Amsterdam store, but way overpriced, IMHO.
De Plug maybe? Peter likes the odd stuff.
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De Plug, yes!
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Two or three years ago, my last visit to Amsterdam. We were shooting a docu in Wuppertal, Germany, were done a day ahead of schedule so we drove to Amsterdam for some fine dining and vintage guitars.
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De Plug, yes!
Spent my entire vacation budget there on the first day once.. great shop!
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De Plug, yes!
I'm not sure whether I'm happy or sad that I didn't know about that place when I was in Amsterdam. A missed opportunity but probably saved me a ton of money.
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It's not CME or Norm's, Peter likes off-the-wall guitars and little amps, no 6-figure 'bursts.
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Those are the places I love . But I love to see a couple of classic pieces there too ...
We had a little vintage shop in Halifax . There were always a bunch of musicians around here so there were always things popping up . Mostly Gibson/Fender . The odd big old Gretsch . But after almost twenty years it closed.
Much of the stock would wind up on eBay . But local buyers always had the first kick at things . I have a number of regrets from not buying things there .
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I bought my beloved Les Paul Bass at De Plug.
I had seen it advertised on their website. But when I came to the store to check it out Peter had no clue where at was. He walked to a different store that was around the corner and after about twenty minutes of looking everywhere he eventually found it in the cleaning closet where the brooms and buckets were kept.
It had only three strings and one of the two pickups was dead...
Had to take it home for some TLC 8)
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A cleaning closet is the only right place for muddy, neck diving, short scale, neck breaking Gibson basses.
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A cleaning closet is the only right place for muddy, neck diving, short scale, neck breaking Gibson basses.
:mrgreen:
My Gibsons don't neck dive. :P
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A cleaning closet is the only right place for muddy, neck diving, short scale, neck breaking Gibson basses.
:rimshot: :toast:
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:mrgreen:
My Gibsons don't neck dive. :P
You can borrow my EB-0L any time you need some quality Gibson neck dive.
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My '64 EB-0 has had a neck break, but it has inferior neck dive and stays put. I'm OK with that! 8)
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Yes, without the headstock, neckdive is over!
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Yes, without the headstock, neckdive is over!
:toast: :toast: :toast:
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You can borrow my EB-0L any time you need some quality Gibson neck dive.
That's one of the reasons I sold mine.
My EB-0 and my SG (guitar) balance perfectly. Except for the EB-0L, my past ones did too.
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That's one of the reasons I sold mine.
My EB-0 and my SG (guitar) balance perfectly. Except for the EB-0L, my past ones did too.
60s EB0s/3s, with the much thinner/lighter body, don't dive per se, but balance in a very precarious way., like they"re ledge walkers contemplating suicide. Like a slight breeze and down they go. Moving the strap button from the neck joint to to top horn could take care of it, if you don't mind doing that. I have found 70s ones to be much heavier and not so, the shorties anyway.
I always feel better with a heavy axe - LPs are great that way; you know they're not gonna dive or move at all really if you let go to fiddle with something. My EB3 will almost float away.
Loving that Yammie, Morrow! There's been a few at Paul's lately, and I been tempted myself, but they weren't the ones I was most interested in (mostly pickup config).... and also it's really not in the budget/anywhere close to the top of the gear priority list. I did recently get an RNDI tho - those things are great.
S'up dudes.
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What is a RNDI ? Is that the Neve direct box ?
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60s EB0s/3s, with the much thinner/lighter body, don't dive per se, but balance in a very precarious way., like their ledge walkers contemplating suicide. Like a slight breeze and down they go. Moving the strap button from the neck joint to to top horn could take care of it, if you don't mind doing that. I have found 70s ones to be much heavier and not so, the shorties anyway.
I always feel better with a heavy axe - LPs are great that way; you know they're not gonna dive or move at all really if you let go to fiddle with something. My EB3 will almost float away.
Loving that Yammie, Morrow! There's been a few at Paul's lately, and I been tempted myself, but they weren't the ones I was most interested in (mostly pickup config).... and also it's really not in the budget/anyhere close to the top of the gear priority list. I did recently get an RNDI tho - those things are great.
S'up dudes.
My 64 EB-0L didn't neck dive at all.
My LP Studio guitar was okay standing up but playing sitting down, it was an immediate diver. Not neck heavy, of course, it was always about the balance point when resting on the leg.
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That's one of the reasons I sold mine.
My EB-0 and my SG (guitar) balance perfectly. Except for the EB-0L, my past ones did too.
My 64 EB-0L didn't neck dive at all.
Wait... did it or didn't it?
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I mostly play in mid sized bars in Halifax , and frequently am not going into the board . So I've got to fill the room (and lug the stuff around)
Mostly playing blues and roots stuff , double on upright and electric . Not super loud .
Rarely use the line out on my amp , never carry a DI .
Looking at that new Mesa amp though , despite being already pretty much amped up .
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Wait... did it or didn't it?
Oops, sorry. My EB-0L was a 71, it did neck dive.
My 64 was an EB-0F, short scale. It didn't neck dive.
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Well the EBOF is heavier in the body due to the Maestro fuzz circuit - easily heavier then the volume of mahogany removed to accommodate it. :P
To be clear, my EB3 doesn't dive either.... just always feels like it's about to go, and occasionally if you tilt or bend the wrong way, it might go. Enuf to worry since headstock breaks are a concern.
Anyway, there's enough variation in weight (density) within a given species to account for 2 opposing anecdotes.
I mostly play in mid sized bars in Halifax , and frequently am not going into the board . So I've got to fill the room (and lug the stuff around)
Mostly playing blues and roots stuff , double on upright and electric . Not super loud .
Rarely use the line out on my amp , never carry a DI .
Looking at that new Mesa amp though , despite being already pretty much amped up .
Fair enuf. I use it mostly for recording so as not to bleed into the drums but still get amp sound. Was planning to carry it live bc sound guys insist on DI here... except when there isn't one which happens occasionally.
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Well the EBOF is heavier in the body due to the Maestro fuzz circuit - easily heavier then the volume of mahogany removed to accommodate it. :P
I doubt that. A Maestro FZ-1 probably weighs less than a pound in a metal enclosure, the components inside an EB-0F even less.
To be clear, my EB3 doesn't dive either.... just always feels like it's about to go, and occasionally if you tilt or bend the wrong way, it might go. Enuf to worry since headstock breaks are a concern.
Anyway, there's enough variation in weight (density) within a given species to account for 2 opposing anecdotes.
Agreed. There are too many reports of EB-0/EB-3 and SG guitar neck dive to ignore.
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I doubt that. A Maestro FZ-1 probably weighs less than a pound in a metal enclosure, the components inside an EB-0F even less.
Can't say I notice much difference between my '63 EBOF and my '65 EB3 - even the combined pair weighs less than my '74 P!
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I wonder if slotheads have less dive because of the smaller/lighter tuners.
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Are they lighter though? I could see that going either way.
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The slotheads have one less fret and the slots would make it lighter but I believe the headstock is longer.
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Are they lighter though? I could see that going either way.
Yeah, I'm not really sure an M4 is lighter than, what are the others, Kluson? They're small, but the "key" part is very thick. I'll have to break out the old triple beam scale. ;D
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Are they lighter though? I could see that going either way.
From what I found, old Schaller M4's are 68g (new ones are 42g), and Schaller BM's are 89g. That's 1/4 less - even five M4's (the old, heavier type) still weigh less than four BM's.