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Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: Dave W on June 17, 2015, 07:07:20 AM
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In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, what a maroon.
If you think his performance is bad in the first song, just wait.
Flashy Bassist Upstages Bandmates (http://www.guitarworld.com/flashy-bassist-upstages-bandmates-video)
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Awful, what a t_rd.
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Saw that a while ago. You have to be either drunk, or a total douche bag to ham it up like that on such a beautiful song.
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i saw the problem right away. he's short, and does what he can to get some attention.
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Yep, saw that one ages ago too. Hilarious. The worst is the jitterbug and twirls; take those out and it might not be half as bad.
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Ok, maybe a bit over the top on the dancing - I kind of look at that as a bit of comic relief tho.......It could be worse, he could be standing still
looking at his shoes - given a choice I'll take the former over the latter every time.
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His chordal vamps might be a little more impressive if he didn't miss the changes EVERY time doing them! Drugs. Are. Bad.
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I once played a gig with some band from the burbs where the pudgy (not an insult, but a fact for purpose of illustration... I would now easily qualify) frontman was doing scissor kicks every song... wearing jogging pants with a visible hole in the crotch. That's just about the only way this could have been worse. ... I also remember the bass player dressed in all orange - hat shirt and pants... but not all the same orange (which is a thing that bothers me, but isn't really important). Aside from the frontman the rest of the band were statues.
As an opposing viewpoint to our dear high heeled one, coming from a shoegaze appreciating background, I would prefer people err on the side tasteful/stoic vs active/ponce. But that is a cover band, which is a different animal in terms of crowd expectation.
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...rawk... :o
I especially like the phlegm to the strings move.
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This is Rudy Sarzo, right?
Hmmm... he put on some weight.
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I'm sure if you look up "douche" on Wikipedia his picture will there :rolleyes:
I'm also so very impressed that he could slap on CCR song
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His chordal vamps might be a little more impressive if he didn't miss the changes EVERY time doing them! Drugs. Are. Bad.
;D ;D ;D
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Sorry, didn't realize that this was from 2014. It was just posted yesterday at GW.
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A good thing remains a joy to behold, regardless of age... ;)
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Major clam by the bassist at 0:45
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Dissenting opinion:
1. He is fun to watch.
2. Enjoys what he is doing.
3. Plays with zest.
4. Has more ideas in one song than most bass players have in a lifetime, declaring their lack of ideas as "holding down the groove" and "playing what the song calls for". Yawn ... :bored:
5. Sign me (and Mark) up as the solitary fans of his in this snakepit of po-faced criticism.
6. I'd love to see him play something like this, he'd be more at home with it and probably go even more bezerk!!! :mrgreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMAgkKXP_Zo
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Fun to watch? You have to be kidding. The word is painful. PAINFUL. Seriously, he almost falls over after most of those twirls. His main groove is a dance that was popular with uncordinated teeny boppers (rigidly defined in this case to mean the girls only) in the 80s and championed by the likes of Wham! In the words of Sarah J Parker "stop it; you're middle aged [men]!" The last person to bring it back was Carleton from Fresh Prince in the 90s, and that was as a joke.
Sure, he does a lot, but does he do it well? Or tastefully? The playing and the moves both. I know you love to have the dissenting opinion around here, but this is indefensible self-unawareness.
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A certain former bandmate of mine would have literally dragged this guy off the stage by the second song.
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I saw another video with the same guy a while back, probably on YT. It´s embarrassing. This guy is more coke´d up than Diego Maradona, nothing fun about that!
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4. Has more ideas in one song than most bass players have in a lifetime, declaring their lack of ideas as "holding down the groove" and "playing what the song calls for". Yawn ... :bored:
Putting them all into one song is not a good idea Uwe. And you know it.
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A certain former bandmate of mine would have literally dragged this guy off the stage by the second song.
+1
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Hey nothing screams CCR like some scooped-mids-cranked-treble-slapping sprinkled with haphazard shredder runs and George Michael dance moves :)
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Hey nothing screams CCR like some scooped-mids-cranked-treble-slapping sprinkled with haphazard shredder runs and George Michael dance moves :)
...while standing in front of the singer.
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Hey nothing screams CCR like some scooped-mids-cranked-treble-slapping sprinkled with haphazard shredder runs and George Michael dance moves :)
More like he was trying to get away from George Michael in a public restroom.
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I dunno; he strikes me as probably into it.
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Reminds me of the moves of a lnebacker when someone put liniment in his jock strap.
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1064496/
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Pah, he's probably underchallenged, granted, but I don't deny him enthusiasm. You're allowed to be OTT at a live gig, dozens of guitar heroes build a career on that with no one complaining, now a bassist does it and everybody is up in arms, my dear staunchly conservative - "as a bassist you are not supposed to do this and that" :-X - brethren!!! If Keith Moon does the same thing on drums, everyone here is in ecstasy about his perceived brilliance.
I like black sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyf2t5KAb-Y
It's views like yours that keep bass players subjugated in the background! :mrgreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LTZms54FXs
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Keith Moon was cool. And a great drummer. In a legendary band
This guy is a dork. Who doesn't know how to proportion the chops he learned. Playing in a mediocre Top 100 band.
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Pah, he's probably underchallenged, granted, but I don't deny him enthusiasm. You're allowed to be OTT at a live gig, dozens of guitar heroes build a career on that with no one complaining, now a bassist does it and everybody is up in arms, my dear staunchly conservative - "as a bassist you are not supposed to do this and that" :-X - brethren!!! If Keith Moon does the same thing on drums, everyone here is in ecstasy about his perceived brilliance.
1. Keith Moon was awesome, never awkward and cringe-inducing to watch. As a lawyer I do not expect you to understand the concept of shame, much less so empathetic shame. :P
2. I gave an example above of how a frontman I played a gig with was similarly horrible to watch, so there goes your conservative bassist theory. Its not OK for any band member to act this way. I mean this not in a dogmatic legalistic way, but rather that if you do this (or similar), you will be mocked, and you deserve it.
But yes, if you tollerate this, your children will be next.... or to put that idea in the words of a cheesy North American anti-drug PSA from the era of my youth turned popular internet meme: "You alright [Dad]; I learnt it from watching you!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo
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Keith Moon was cool. And a great drummer. In a legendary band
This guy is a dork. Who doesn't know how to proportion the chops he learned. Playing in a mediocre Top 100 band.
Mediocre? If these two numbers are any indication, you're being charitable.
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I've heard The Who bootlegs that sound a lot worse than what this cover band did.
Yes, he's hilarious and OTT, but I'm sure also the main reason why the audience was watching this band at all. A little excess is nice.
And as for Keith Moon: He was a character and a star, also a troubled soul and I actually liked his drumming, but three things he was not: a technically adept (in comparison to many of his peers), solid or tasteful drummer. May I quote JAE: "Do I miss Keith Moon?! I miss him everyday as a person! Not as a drummer. It was difficult with his style to hold the rhythm down live, I'm much tighter with Kenny."
Now of course JAE might not have had a better idea of what was good for The Who (in my opion, Keith was, they were much more boring after his death) than I or anyone of you. But Keith Moon was evidence that you can be OTT on your instrument, defy convention and do the same lengthy 16th-based drum fill/tom run live over and over (at varying speeds! :mrgreen: ), yet still contribute to the greatness of a band. However, saying that he was the member of a tight rhythm section, a nuanced player, intricate technician and "less is more"-groover is misrepresenting him. That is like saying Vincent Price cultivated sparse method acting.
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but three things he was not: a technically adept (in comparison to many of his peers), solid or tasteful drummer.
Not as technically adept as who; Ringo? He was as technically skilled as most of his contemporaries (many who could not keep up if they tried). Moon was solid, just not constant; there is a difference. Tasteful is highly subjective (and <> reserved FYI - I know you like mostly straight forward drumming; surprised you're a fan of Moon at all), so all I will say is that there's a pretty big consensus that he was not cringeworthy, like this dude here. Sure he was far from perfect - not playing a song the same twice (his rep as well as a bit of exaggeration) is not helpful, but that is allowed with other instruments.
Moon and this guy = apples and oranges. And not just due to the weapon of choice.
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I have always loved Ringo! He is a great drummer alone for what he came up with in Come Together! And he had a more musical groove than Moonie who tended to be a bit on the frantic side.
Enough of my defenses for that nameless overplaying colleague. There are better bassists out there and quite some who can say more with less. But he was at least entertaining to watch. And there is no rule in the book that disallows just bass players from overplaying when everyone else is happy to do it occasionally.
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the who may seem boring after moon's death because their best stuff was behind them, way behind them. as for his alleged technique it worked with the who, but would probably not cut it in many other bands.
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I'd prefer a Keith Moon to a Phil Rudd in my band anytime, because Moonie's spluttering approach had humor and surprise (think about it: when was the last time when Phil Rudd surprised you, murder assignements not being eligible?). Of course, in today's music, drummers are not meant/allowed to surprise. I'm not knocking ole Moonie. He just didn't match standard criteria of a drummer. Neither did JAE for a bassist. But with Townshend playing de facto only rhythm guitar and Daltrey being a very disciplined singer, it worked.
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Enough of my defenses for that nameless overplaying colleague. There are better bassists out there and quite some who can say more with less. But he was at least entertaining to watch. And there is no rule in the book that disallows just bass players from overplaying when everyone else is happy to do it occasionally.
If someone had jumped on stage with a board and smacked this guy upside the head with it, that would have been entertaining.
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You violent Americans. "Smacking people over the head", tsk, tsk, tsk ...
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Back on topic;
Why is that dork in the video constantly whipping his spagetti wet hair to the left and to the right?
Is it possible he might think that looks cool on him? Is he shaking his head in disbelief? Or has he been studying Mick Jagger's stage antics?
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Rob, he's entitled to shake his head - and other body parts - as much, as long and where he wants to as long as he doesn't bore me! :P :P :P
Boredom is the most vicious of crimes.
That sounds like an Oscar Wilde quote!!! :mrgreen:
I think I'd enjoy playing with this guy in one band. Double lead bassists, we'd feed off each other (I say this in a most innocent context) and our styles are radically different so the audience would always know who is who, he could do all the slapping. We'd get a singer, drummer and - what is that other instrument called again? -, ah, yes, guitarist to back us. 8)
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You can have him Uwe. He's all yours.
I'm pretty sure none of us here would object.
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Wishbone Bas(s)h would be my dream come true - all those parallel harmony thirds in my head have to go somewhere! :mrgreen:
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I think I read on another board that the band is from Brazil. And Uwe has heard that getting a Brazilian is exciting. He just doesn't know what the hot wax is for.
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I think the guy dancing on the stage needs assless chaps. That would provide some comic relief.
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Hot Wax...? Record label, wasn't it...?
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Bunch of arrogant gringos you are. United Fruit Company minions!!!
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At least we don't send our oldest/largest women to ruin the topless beaches across South America for everybody else. I mean, that's pure evil. .... but you got to keep the volleyball games at your local swimming holes pure somehow, I suppose.
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A country that invented the tanga
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=13179908)
and therfore let the concept of "less is more" come to full frution, deserves better than some impish cries from a region mainly known for maple syrup! 8)
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Que uma bela praia!
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How I love Latin!
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Brazil is one of those countries that I fully intended to go to. I even learned quite a bit of Portuguese. Strangely enough, a close Brazilian friend living in the U.S. talked me out of it. He knew me well enough to know that I would be like a fish out of water there. Instead, a free trip to Germany changed my focus completely. From that point on, I only visited Europe. There are still things about Brazil which get my attention, though.
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A country that invented the tanga
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=13179908)
and therfore let the concept of "less is more" come to full frution, deserves better than some impish cries from a region mainly known for maple syrup! 8)
You neither invented the bikini nor the thong, but (allegedly) merely a variant. ... and it's not what you're known for internationally is it? Just like nobody remembers that we invented insulin; maple syrup and bacon are so much yummier... and also:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/En1M1PUkk_U/maxresdefault.jpg)
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I was under the impression that a tanga was slightly wider than a thong, but really I'm not sure. In Brazil they're called a fio dental (to the best of my knowledge.) But I'm not sure if that would be considered a thong or a tanga.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhOeG-uTJxw
Dang...! I thought you said Tango...!