The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Basvarken on July 17, 2014, 01:09:19 AM
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Looks like Johnny Winter has joined the great gig in the sky too....
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/07/r-i-p-johnny-winter-blues-legend-dead-at-70/
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A sad day. He's always been one of my favorite blues artists. He endured a lot. RIP
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Oh my. :sad: :sad: :sad: I wore this album out at the time.
(http://rockkitchen1984.sakura.ne.jp/sblo_files/rockkitchen1984/image/JOHNNY20WINTER20CAPTURED20LIVE.jpg)
For some reason, I always thought of him as the Yank counterpart to Rory Gallagher (though Rory was much more his own songwriter, they shared this gritty attack in their singing and playing). Hopefully happy together now those two then (no idea whether they ever met on those endless US tours).
His health hadn't been well for the longest time (if ever), but it's sad to see him go. Something to lighten up with ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1o5uuw6ag
I have only recently boosted my Johnny Winter collection with those two here, time to give them an extended listen.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PIiZ8zhfL._SY300_.jpg)
(http://www.promo-team.de/cds/august-12/johnny-winter-packshot-326.jpg)
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RIP, Johnny.
His first Columbia album wasn't well received but I thought it was a gem. Also the Johnny Winter And... studio album was one of my favorites.
He was in frail health for so long. A friend's band opened for him here about 20 years ago and he was in terrible shape back then.
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Wasn't there this thing about his old manager keeping him under the wrong medication in a constantly sedated, vegetable-style state?
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That's sad. Johnny and Edgar were one of the opening acts at my first rock concert, followed by BOC, then KISS. My buddy's dad was his bass player WAY back when.
RIP
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he certainly wasn't produce when he was playing. but the evil manager part is probably true. :)
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Wasn't there this thing about his old manager keeping him under the wrong medication in a constantly sedated, vegetable-style state?
He went through a few bad managers. When he was back on the junk in the '90s(?), it was attributed to a manager who kept him using to cover up how much money was being stolen from him. Two friends of mine that are big fans got to meet him and had pictures taken with. By all accounts, Winter was a courteous man, and invited them into the trailer to sit and talk.
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RIP Johnny.
I am very glad to have seen you play - even if it was only once quite a long time ago.
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Yeah, that trailer! :mrgreen: He even took it to Europe and lived there in US time during the tours.
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pretty much wore out his first three or four Columbia albums during high school. Randy Hobbs was one of my favorites...RIP
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Saw him many times and always enjoyed the show. RIP Johnny :sad:
Rick
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One of my favorite guitarists ever. Saw him live in '89 but used to watch him on Krishner's rock concert starting in the early 70's. R.I.P. Johnny.
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I can confirm that he was very courteous and in awful health - had been for many years. I'm surprised he lasted this long. I did a few opening spots for Johnny Winter back in the late 90's/early 2000's and he was pretty much blind back then. Due to that condition and the fact that he couldn't stray more than a foot away from his mic stand, he had an arrangement with his bassist that he'd cue a four-count to kick off all the songs and then the bassist would cue an additional four-count to the drummer - then the whole band would kick in. Very odd to watch but it worked and he could play like a demon - right up to the end.
"Saints and Sinner"s was my go-to Johnny Winter album back in the day. I'll miss him as I'm sure many of the musicians here in O-town who knew him will as well.
RIP
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the first blues album I owned was by this man, he for me was the introduction to one of the most powerful musical influences in my life. I have never been as saddened by the death of a celebrity as I feel right now. Farewell Johnny, this planet will never see your like again
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Where's your brother...? Rockin' in peace is where...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q67drNe2aRg
Thanks for all the music...
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Wow, this makes me sad. One of my all time favorites. Bless you and your family.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQPlU5q1CBI
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You guys will probably like this. My old singer/guitarist in an old photo with Johnny.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQPlU5q1CBI
Great stuff, I always liked him.
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i have kind of been cheeking to see if cause of death has been posted, apparently not. imo if the cause of death was not natural they may be withholding the info for the good of his fans. crazy thought i know but possible, and i am not usually a conspiracy guy.
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Article in the paper today about his last album - just released - says emphysema is thought by many to be the cause.
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It's a small wonder that he lived as long as he did. He wasn't just an albino, he had multiple health issues even as a kid and was alcohol-, drug- and medicine-dependent most of his life. He wasn't healthy-looking by the late seventies and I don't mean his complexion. Did he even ever have a family? I've never heard of a Mrs Johnny Winter (Edgar's married though - and has better health, there mus be a correlation ...). Very much a blues guy in all those respects. Stay healthy and sane with that type of music and people will start calling you Robert Cray. ;)
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The newspaper reports said an autopsy had been ordered. You would think it would be in the news if there were any hint of foul play. One of his representatives said an official statement would be made later but I haven't seen anything yet.
His final album will be out tomorrow.
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I ordered it as a last salute.
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Just got it, haven't heard it yet. What I have been hearing is his (CBS-) debut (not the earlier Johny Winter in the car (on my way to work this morning). I have never heard it before at all, the only Johnny Winter album I ever owned was "Captured Live!" plus a home tape of "Live Johnny Winter And" (one of my schoolmates was a big Winter fan) plus some CD compilations of his work (both CBS and beyond). What strikes me with the debut was how traditional it sounds, there was little attempt to give it British Blues Invasion gloss, especially the drumming could have been lifted off some 30ies blues recording (the bass playing is quite busy and "modern" on the non-Willie Dixon bass tracks). Considering how he was to be championed as a (very!) white Hendrix (something he never professed to be), those early recordings really shy away from attempting to sound either like the Experience or Cream. I'm surprised that that first CBS album did as well as it did (it almost cracked the Top 20, only one other of his albums - Still Alive and Well - did that). Not because it was badly made, but because it so staunchly defied the sound "of its time" which today probably makes it timeless I guess.
I have nine more CDs plus the new one to go - rediscovery time!
PS: The similarity to Rory Gallagher - that gritty attack in playing - is evident on that first album already, especially on the acoustic stuff. Johnny is a bit more liberal in the concept of timing I suppose :mrgreen: - did I hear anybody cry "Carlos Santana!"? Well, he's not THAT liberal. Let's just say "not over-obsessed with ternary note discipline" when a shuffle plays in the background.
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So I've heard it.
First impressions: I was expecting a "what Rick Rubin did with the other Johnny" sparse sound. Yet production-wise this is the most honed Winter recording ever. Except on a few tracks such as Long Tall Sally, the gruffness of his voice has made room to what in places sounds like Bob Seger on a rough day (not a knock, I like Bob). A full, smooth, aurally pleasant sound of the backing band, akin to what you would expect on, say, a more recent Bonnie Raitt album. The album was obviously aimed at cracking the AORish deep pocket baby boomer market and ironically will probably have good sales now not only for the slick (but not sterile) production, but also for the unfortunate event of his death. People that like to listen to Joe Cocker or Eric Clapton albums when having friends over for dinner won't yank this CD out of their player in horror.
But even a honed Johnny will never sound bland, so it's a fitting epitaph. The album is full of guitarist guests (Clapton, Setzer, Gibbons, Perry, and, yes quite, the these days largely unavoidable Bonamassa) and if you dig comparing Johnny's fluid yet rawish style with Clapton's terse "gentleman blues" or Setzer's slightly nervous rockabilly licks, you won't be bored here.