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People are forgetting what made Michael Jackson a star.

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uwe:
Ok, touchy subject and I don't want to find myself in the wrong bracket here:

- When I wrote teenagers, I was not insinuating "he did it with adolescents who already kind of knew what they wanted and could be expected to say no". I was using teenager in a 10+x, but still pre-adolescent sense.

- MJ is a pedophile or at the very least has pedophile demons he has to struggle with. But I've seen no evidence, not even an indication that would allow to call him a rapist or even an attempted rapist. You can be a pedophile and not be a rapist, just like you can be straight, gay or an SM afficionado and not be a rapist (or ever in danger of becoming one) either. We're talking about varying shades of grey, granted, but even in that grey area  there is a line MJ has not crossed from what I can judge him on. Seduction is not rape. Even misuse of a child's affection, gratitude or guilt is not rape. I think that was portrayed vividly in Kevin Bacon's great (and brave) performance in "The Woodsman" where he played a convicted and paroled  pedophile who is not a rapist and in fact only realizes that he is  (nontheless still) abusing children (or in danger of abusing them) when confronted with a girl's (he's taken an interest in) description of her parental molesting/rape situation at home.

Uwe

eb2:
Oh, none of us are in the wrong bracket.  I have the biggest problem with the parents.  I agree in that someone can have psycho-sexual urges and never act on them.  But I base my calling him what I call him on the civil suit brought against him in 1993, where the child gave a lengthy sworn statement outlining the sexual acts that ol' Jacko did with the child.  Jackson settled the following year for a figure generally agreed to be in excess of $15m.  After he bought off the parents he went on tv and said that the charges were all fabricated and he was being targeted by greedy swindlers.  After that the child's father launched another suit based on Jacko breaking the terms of the original settlement - basically Jackson paid them to say nothing and not cooperate with the DA about criminal charges, and Jackson would say nothing about them as well.  Jacko had to break the bank yet again to make that one go away, and all told he seems to have paid out somewhere between 20 and 40 mil.

That is a lot of dough.  But if it were my kid, I would never take a penny.  But then again I wouldn't let my kid go visit MJ.  I would let him watch the Thriller video though, and hope he looked at the girlfriend.  She was easy to look at.

 

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