The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Barklessdog on February 21, 2008, 07:30:54 AM
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At first I disliked it but it's growing on me.
The pictures here make me like it more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-SG-Supreme-Fireburst-Flame-Bass-Guitar-NEW-w-HSC_W0QQitemZ140208958317QQihZ004QQcategoryZ64402QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I bet this will be the most sought after down the road, or the silver burst as you see few of them.
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I give Gibson credit for attempting a non-conservative fin here. It is not for everyone, but well-done.
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I really had to make it a point to try out an SG RI at the local GC.....Most of you guys talk them and their many variants up so much......and I do keep an open mind about owning any new Gibson. That said after having not played a short scale bass in more than 30 years I found the SG RI to be *small* and just not to my liking..........I am about 6'0" not really big but they just do even *feel right* while I'm sitting down playing....... :-\ More of them out there for you guys I guess
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Playing a short-scale took some getting used to for me, but I really like 'em now. I have small hands and I can play for hours without my fretting hand aching afterwards.
That finish is pretty. It would be cool to see that style of burst with other color combinations. Maybe blue or green.
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I just flat out don't like that finish. IIRC it was Dude who named it "clownburst", and for good reason.
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"Playing a short-scale took some getting used to for me, but I really like 'em now. I have small hands and I can play for hours without my fretting hand aching afterwards."
It's not so much my fretting hand, it's the soft string tension and the inherent "softness" of these basses. I play with a .73 pick and most of our music amounts to 4 straight minutes of downstroking 16th and 32nds......Not so good for short scale and Mud. Don't get me wrong tho, I like the look of all of them, Eb's Sg's whatever.......can't justify one right now tho. :-\
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IIRC it was Dude who named it "clown burst", and for good reason.
LOL
So now the Gibson color palette goes like this-
Clown Burst
Ketchup & Mustard Burst
Pee Yellow
Turd Brown
Tobacco Burst
Lawyer Burst-$5000 Les Paul flame top 59 guitar reissues
Blue meanie
all sound really appealing-lots of love here
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"Turd Brown"
May I suggest Anal Sex Brown....... :-*
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I was thinking this one was a long-scale also... guess I was wrong. I presume its just the SG Supreme (natural flametop) that is the long scale.
Either way, I dig the finish. Its really unusual to see a more outrageous design on a Gibson (who seem to pride themselves on more muted, non-loud colors).
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All gibson SG reissues are short scale
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I agree with Mark about the scale length (not about the brown color name suggestion). Not saying I won't buy another short scale, maybe even an SG Reissue. But anything from Rick (33 1/4") to 34" feels right to me. The string tension and the tonality suit me best.
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"Turd Brown"
May I suggest Anal Sex Brown....... :-*
Fräulein Geiger! Bad, nasty girl!!! What a non-enigmatic (and non-enematic to high-heel-boot!) uttering!
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I've been a good boy, holding to my word, not uttering anything about you know what.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/misc/21-thumb-300x400.jpg)
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I find these dolls deeply disturbing.
You have a whole collection of them, John, yes?
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No, I wish. They are Japanese ball joint dolls where you build & customize them. They are about $1000 just for the doll and one outfit costs hundreds of dollars.
I would rather put that kind of money on a bass.
These are the dolls my wife owns-creepy yes?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/misc/doll.jpg)
This was a doll from her childhood, she found it at her mom's house after she passed away. Who would buy a kid a doll this scary?
She also has an antique cracked face porcelain doll and a large Steiff Teddy Bear from the 1920s
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www.ihateclowns.com
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"Fräulein Geiger! Bad, nasty girl!!! What a non-enigmatic (and non-enematic to high-heel-boot!) uttering!"
Sorry, Herr Gruppenfurher.......I am a bad girl :'(
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These are the dolls my wife owns-creepy yes?
Do you ever wonder if the dolls run amok in your studio at night?
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/TrevorDunn.jpg)
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Things that give people the creeps-
Dolls
Clowns
Homicidal Children
Scary Old people
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Things that give people the creeps-
Dolls
Clowns
Homicidal Children
Scary Old people
...and Zal Cleminson. :D
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"Playing a short-scale took some getting used to for me, but I really like 'em now. I have small hands and I can play for hours without my fretting hand aching afterwards."
It's not so much my fretting hand, it's the soft string tension and the inherent "softness" of these basses. I play with a .73 pick and most of our music amounts to 4 straight minutes of downstroking 16th and 32nds......Not so good for short scale and Mud. Don't get me wrong tho, I like the look of all of them, Eb's Sg's whatever.......can't justify one right now tho. :-\
I'm glad I'm not totally alone here. Something about the Elitist EB3 I had didn't feel right and "soft" is a pretty good description. Consequently I rarely played it all through a gig, but found swapping between long and short scale really hard. So in the end it had to go. With regret, because I really wanted to like it.
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What's so scary about dolls?
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/041027/151419__chucky_l.jpg)
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I'm glad I'm not totally alone here. Something about the Elitist EB3 I had didn't feel right and "soft" is a pretty good description. Consequently I rarely played it all through a gig, but found swapping between long and short scale really hard. So in the end it had to go. With regret, because I really wanted to like it.
Switching between long and short scale messes me up, too. I can see how a short-scale would feel weird to someone, as they really are a different beast. I play 'em almost exclusively now, in spite of the fact that my buddies call my SG "the girly bass". :o
I just picked up a sweet set-neck Dearmond JetStar in purple metallic. I can't wait to whip that baby out at practice!
By the way.....Those dolls are scary as hell. My grandma had a porcelain doll collection and I was scared to death of those things. They gave me nightmares when I was little.
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Dolls don't bother me, they're inanimate. Clowns creep me out.
Then there was Tiffany, a beer-swilling clown who roomed with a friend of mine for a while. If you think clowns are creepy in costume, you ought to meet one off-duty...but that's another story. ;)
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I like the tequila sunrise SG! Do they make 'em lefty?
Probly not. Alas
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and Zal Cleminson.
He hits two or more categories
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But ya gotta love these Dolls:
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2633139.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=B43C13524355E9285365057053971242A55A1E4F32AD3138)
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Johnny Thunders already looked old then. You sometimes have to wonder that he survived as long as he did.
PS: I agree that hammering out eights and sixteenths on the root note is not a short scale bass forte (though the original Status Quo bassist Alan Lancaster did it to great effect with his Fender Mustang), you don't have the same "bounce back" as on a hi tension long scale E and anything below the A doesn't have as much authority as on a long scale. A short scale's strength comes into play if your bass lines are able to leave more room (not the constant drone and filling the bottom thing) and you play more melodic. Compared to the bendable musicality of a short scale's D and G strings, a long scale sounds limited on D and G.
Uwe
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"But ya gotta love these Dolls:"
I look at that and think.......well its a starting point. You do it (dressing like a girl) for a while and your various skills with make up,shaving, wigs, clothing etc lead you down a path you might not have intended to travel, but have had a lot fun with. I used to be a nice girl.....not any more :D
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/blackwhite.jpg)
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The Dolls were great, no doubt about it. There was always something sinister and edgy about them, a quality an act like Kiss - nice Queens boys dressed up to look kabuki - totally lacked.
And I liked the second album better than their first ... "Stranded in the Jungle" had me captivated ("meanwhile, back in the States ...").
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The Dolls were great, no doubt about it. There was always something sinister and edgy about them, a quality an act like Kiss - nice Queens boys dressed up to look kabuki - totally lacked.
And I liked the second album better than their first ... "Stranded in the Jungle" had me captivated ("meanwhile, back in the States ...").
You know that the reason KISS went Kabuki was because of the Dolls. Since The Dolls were already doing the drag thing, Simmons and Stanley decided they needed to something different.
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I already said this at the Pit once: Go and see New York Doll. The movie that is. It moved me to tears and that says something. The last time i cried about a movie before that, was when I was like six years old.
My DVD-rental guy isn't a musisian and even he loved it. He advised me to see it, without knowing I am a bass player.
Great move.
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I already said this at the Pit once: Go and see New York Doll. The movie that is. It moved me to tears and that says something. The last time i cried about a movie before that, was when I was like six years old.
My DVD-rental guy isn't a musisian and even he loved it. He advised me to see it, without knowing I am a bass player.
Great move.
+1 Amazing the timing the filmmaker had to be filiming during his death...the footage of Arthur riding the city bus every day to work, I'll never forget that image of a rock icon.