The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: amptech on August 21, 2013, 05:54:35 AM
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Some of you must have noticed an EB0 project bass on ebay, white with bare wood neck, listed as a 1959 model.
I asked the seller if there was a serial number, pointing out that there was no sg shaped EB0's in 1959, but the answer was just
plain and simple, 'no'. I think it's been around for a while, but it's still relisted as a '59 and the seller's got good feedback.
I do like the early necks, so I'm somewhat interested. I dont think it's fake (though not a '59), the neck heel is early 60's correct,
but I noticed it has a gold decal logo.
Does anybody know how to date by decal vs. pearl insert logo's on early gibsons?
I checked out Jules sites but the 'logo' section was still under construction..
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There is a 61 EB-0 at Guitar Works in Evanston IL with the black pickup and a pearl logo.
http://www.guitarworksltd.com/images.php?productId=1588&productName=Gibson%201961%20EB-O%20-%20Original%20neck%20pickup%2C%20bridge%20%26amp%3B%20tuners%2C%20but%20extra%20pots%20and%20switch%20to%20accomodate%20the%20Lawrence%20add-on%20bridge%20pickup.%20%20Well-worn%20and%20altered%2C%20but%20sounds%20great%2C%20with%20that%20Gibson%20neck%21%20W/HSC
(http://www.guitarworksltd.com/images/products/Gibson%201961%20EB-0%20Modded%20006.JPG)
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Here are the logos and serial numbers on my EBOs
AFAIK, no decal on EBs from 53-67 at least. This is my '60 NOT SG shaped EBO, originally with banjos.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1050613.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1050613.jpg.html)
Serial number is an ink stamp. First number, zero, is the year.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1050622.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1050622.jpg.html)
My '65 EBO serial is stamped with punches. Supposedly this began in '61 with the change to SG solid body style. Logo is an inlay.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1010991_zps2c000fcd.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1010991_zps2c000fcd.jpg.html)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1010981_zpsa4d62725.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1010981_zpsa4d62725.jpg.html)
My early '67, also has pearl inlay and punch stamp serial.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/SANY1157_zpsd953722c.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/SANY1157_zpsd953722c.jpg.html)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/SANY1145_zps43cd5d72.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/SANY1145_zps43cd5d72.jpg.html)
I bought a used SG Junior guitar around '65 and remember IT having a gold decal logo. Even then I thought it looked cheap compared to the pearl on the EBO.
What's the EBay listing?
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Sorry, tried to attach link, here it is (I think)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161090173541?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I´m not sure how to add pictures without attaching files either. There is just not room in my head for understanding
such modern things as computers...
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Possibly the decal was added during one of the refins. It appears to have had had at least 2, maybe 3 judging by the black and red paint on the back of the headstock. It's missing the truss rod or at least the end of it. All in all, perfect for a "59 SG bass" that never existed.
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You're right about the neck joint being early 60s, and the control cavity size is also early 60s. I don't know about the decal, though.
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Ok, thanks so far. There is no crown inlay either, obviously...
I´ll pass on this one, maybe he will re-list it with a lower BIN if it´s not sold this auction.
It would fit my ´eb with lo impedance in mid-and-neck-position ´just fine..
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Possibly the decal was added during one of the refins. It appears to have had had at least 2, maybe 3 judging by the black and red paint on the back of the headstock.
My guess is that a decal might have been easier than mimicing the original approach to replicating the pearl logo - wherein the black lacquer defines the letters on top of the pearl inlay.
You can see the squarish outline of the slab-o-pearl under the lacquer on my old 69 EB-0:
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/eb-related/69-eb3-logo.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/forums/eb-related/69-eb3-logo.jpg.html)