The Last Bass Outpost

PBG When you use the word "eating" to me that means going through them a lot.

That's exactly how I meant it, but from what I gather, the "bad" preamp tubes you are pulling are not non-functional; they just don't sound right to you, so you swap them. There's a name for that: the placebo effect- a change is expected, so it is observed. Any time you want to get rid of your "bad" tubes, I'll be happy to take them off your hands and post some test data on just how "bad" they really are.

I don't get what you are all whipped up about.

...says the person continually arguing that he's not arguing.

Really? You don't get that my professional experience, technical data, and training, not my "opinion," is diametrically opposed to what you're saying, and I keep trying to reconcile the two? This is not a matter of opinion; this is a matter of fact; are spare tubes a good idea? The answer is an unqualified "no."

I carry spares and have used them.

...which is a different than saying that it is a good idea for someone else to carry them out of necessity, which is bullshit.

our opinion is that it is not nessesary

No, my experience is that it is not neccessary. Anyone can have an opinion; I speak from a position of technical expertise.

Fine I really don't care, we disagree no big deal

Your past few posts say otherwise...

That does not mean I am "full of shit".

I attributed that statement BEFORE you entered this thread and seemed to take such strong offense to my using it. The argument that spare tubes are necessary is baseless in fact, so the people who purport, are in fact, supporting a fallacy, and are "full of shit" when attempting to speak to it from an informed technical perspective.  Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm going to take it back. I never singled you out prior to your argument, nor was I even aware you felt that way, so please don't try and play some "martyr card" that you're being personally abused. I have nothing against you personally at all other than a little frustration with your apparent stubbornness to refuse to differienate between fact and opinion.

 

Honestly I think your moderating skills could use a little work.

I have not "moderated" this thread in any fashion, nor have I used my position as moderator to enforce my views. Your posts have not been modified, censored or otherwise altered by me in any way, shape, form, or fashion. This is not an issue of moderation; this is an issue of disagreement. As to your opinion of my "moderating skills," it has been duly noted and given the appropriate weight of action.

Sorry, but that's not the case, and if your amps are eating preamp tubes, there is something seriously wrong with them. The whole 'lower quality means spares are necessary' line is a bunch of bullshit; current production tubes do not last as long in general as old US and European production, but we're talking a difference of four or five years out of 30 or 40. If they're really poor quality, they die instantly. You're not going to have one just 'up and die' without it giving you plenty of warning. 15-20 years ago, Chinese tubes were a crapshoot. Nowadays, there are more audio tubes being manufactured than there EVER were 'back in the day,' and there are currently produced models that I would rather have instead of vintage.

 I also retiterate what I said previously: If a tube fails, whether it be the fault of the tube or the amp, the damage will happen almost guarantees that you'll either just destroy your new tubes or damage your  amp further. If you drop your amp and it breaks a tube, there will be something else broken inside it 99.9% of the time. Just because their envelopes are glass, doesn't mean they're going to shatter with the least hit. How fragile is your car's windshield?

I saw the last 2/3's of Joan Jett's performance last night. She was pretty good, though the mix was just a tad more sedate than I'd like. The bass player was using a Fenderbird through two SVT VR stacks. My band used to cover "Cherry Bomb," which was funny because we were all a bunch of ugly redneck guys with absolutely NO qualities of the song's object.

So, I'm told it's a good idea to carry spare tubes, anybody got some suggestions for which brand and place to purchase?

The people who told you that are full of shit. If a tube fails, whether it be the fault of the tube or the amp, the damage will happen almost guarantees that you'll either just destroy your new tubes or damamge your  amp further. Fortunately, tubes and tube amps are far more robust than they are generally given credit for being.

BTW, congrats of the new amp!

Styles,
 Are those SVT3 Pro's in "Classic" headcases?

Time to dredge this up. That's Wish himself playing. 

My wife just watched this. Her comments: "He needs to be f***ing shot," and "I think I just got stupider watching that."

looks like someone ripped off a wish bass design but made it a whole lot better.

The neck and knobs still look bad. The neck definitely has a short-scale thing going on, and Ampeg scroll basses are famous for being larger than standard. I also think I've seen those bodies for cheap online. Wish's crap is all neck-through from what I've seen so maybe this is a first attempt by someone trying to one-up him.