The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Nocturnal on July 16, 2012, 06:02:52 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/STONE-CITY-MOONSHINE-T-BIRD-BASS-THUNDERBIRD-w-OHSC-PROTOTYPE-1-/370631615960?pt=Guitar&hash=item564b5da5d8
Bet this one isn't neck heavy.
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Uh....yeah. :o
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Ummm.........I'm kinda limp on that thing - And I'd scratch the F#$& out of the back too.
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I'd be much more impressed with a wood body and no three-point.
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For that kind of dough I could buy a vintage Dan Armstrong. :rolleyes:
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For that kind of dough I could buy a vintage Dano. :rolleyes:
Or 3 of the reissues, which are just as good. :mrgreen:
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I'll wait for the colored ones. ;)
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Or 3 of the reissues, which are just as good. :mrgreen:
Opps getting my Dans mixed up I meant Dan Armstrong. :-[
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I'd be much more impressed with a wood body and no three-point.
What!??! The three point is the greatest single invention EVER! :o
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(initial instant reaction) Ooooh... cool... ice cool...
A closer look and... the layout of the pots just jars - off-setting them would be more aesthetically pleasing, but as they are...
The sound would be the most important thing to know at present...
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The sound would be the most important thing to know at present...
Does anyone seriously believe that solid plastic body basses and guitars sound as good as wood ones? They're novelties, they function all right, and they're neat looking if you like that sort of thing. I doubt you can expect more than that.
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I tend to view things like this as a gimmick. This would be an expensive gimmick IMO.
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I tend to view things like this as a gimmick. This would be an expensive gimmick IMO.
This one is not just your ordinary expensive gimmick. It's **PROTOTYPE #1**. Better get yours today!
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My luck if I bought the thing as I played it onstage it would hike my skirt up and expose my whohaw for everyone too see..............
That's gotta be at least $10.00 worh of Plexi they got there. Not a fan of those pups either.
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Would it have any magnifying qualities...?
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Is it just my rapidly approaching geriatric eyes, or is that body about an inch think?
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Is it just my rapidly approaching geriatric eyes, or is that body about an inch think?
Judging by the top strap button compared to the body, you may be right.
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Would it have any magnifying qualities...?
Now THERE's an answer to the whohaw issue!!
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Every little bit helps ;)
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OK, how about if they trace a 60's T Bird instead of a 70's or 90's??? And it needs a better bridge, pickups, tuners...Oh what's the use...
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I think it's cool. And basses made with artificial material bodies do not so much sound worse than wooden instruments, but completely different. I would expect this thing to have sublow thud to beat any wooden TBird, but less mids. Never thought the Armstrong basses sounded bad, just in a class of their own.
Doubleplusgood for the three point, the mother of all bridges.
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They must have figured that using a good bridge would be too high class.
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It amazes me how someone always up in defense for the abysmally misengineered two-point ("only has a stringholder missing") can pour so much derision of the much improved three-point!!! The three-point is the iconic, idiosyncratic Gibson bass bridge, as much a part of the design for the last 40 years as the Ric bridge is on a 4001/4003.
And since adding a stringholder to a bridge that never had one seems to be allowed to argue its (then) practicability: If someone came up with saddles for a 3-point that could be individually raised and lowered by, say, two allen screws in the saddle, the thing would be darn near perfect even for today's standards.
Death to all false bridges!!!
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I wasn't defending the two-point, just attacking the three-point. :P
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If someone came up with saddles for a 3-point that could be individually raised and lowered by, say, two allen screws in the saddle, the thing would be darn near perfect even for today's standards.
Maybe the best someone to do that would be Gibson. Will we be seeing that on their "All New" bass?
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I gotcha classic bridge right heeeere.....
(http://media.fmicdirect.com/fender/images/products/accessories/0990804100_frt_wmd_001.jpg)
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For all its qualities (on the right type of bass) that thing is butt-ugly and spiky as a handrest to boot. It looks pretty much horrible on anything but a P or a J.
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For all its qualities (on the right type of bass) that thing is butt-ugly and spiky as a handrest to boot. It looks pretty much horrible on anything but a P or a J.
Still works great at 55 and and a prime example of "Form follows Function".
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For all its qualities (on the right type of bass) that thing is butt-ugly and spiky as a handrest to boot. It looks pretty much horrible on anything but a P or a J.
Oh, I tend to agree, but how could I resist the opportunity?
Besides, with a bridge cover over it, the Fender bent-metal bridge is right purty. ;)
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For all its qualities (on the right type of bass) that thing is butt-ugly and spiky as a handrest to boot. It looks pretty much horrible on anything but a P or a J.
In one form or other, the Fender bridge design is used on a lot more basses than Fenders. I would have chosen the MusicMan bridge as an improvement in looks and function.
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That is true, the EBMM also has better range.
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Hipshot's bridges are nice, too, and I also like the new slightly higher mass Fender bridges.
About the only thing missing from the Fender bridges is a slot for each string to allow quick string changes...but since I never change strings, it doesn't bother me.
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I think it's cool. And basses made with artificial material bodies do not so much sound worse than wooden instruments, but completely different. I would expect this thing to have sublow thud to beat any wooden TBird, but less mids. Never thought the Armstrong basses sounded bad, just in a class of their own.
I've always found the plexi-bodied basses to be VERY anemic sounding with little lows and highs and mostly nasal mids.
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I've always found the plexi-bodied basses to be VERY anemic sounding with little lows and highs and mostly nasal mids.
Agreed, though I haven't heard enough of them to know how much could be because of the body or if it's just weak electronics. I certainly wouldn't expect one to have anything resembling sub-low thud.
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I would expect the density of the material to provide just that. Even my Kalamazoo KB-1 with its wood chip body sounds different to other mudbucker basses of the era. Deeper, but with less mids. Deader too, but with better G string definition.
A couple of years ago, ok more than a decade, Ibanez brought out a new material, what was it called again? Something with an "L" like "lucite" or something? And used it on basses that had a suitable modernistic design. I played one of those because I Liked the looks. It sounded dead, but the sublows were merciless. Even unplugged you could feel the density of its tone.
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I would expect the density of the material to provide just that. Even my Kalamazoo KB-1 with its wood chip body sounds different to other mudbucker basses of the era. Deeper, but with less mids. Deader too, but with better G string definition.
A couple of years ago, ok more than a decade, Ibanez brought out a new material, what was it called again? Something with an "L" like "lucite" or something? And used it on basses that had a suitable modernistic design. I played one of those because I Liked the looks. It sounded dead, but the sublows were merciless. Even unplugged you could feel the density of its tone.
Luthite. Boy, were those major synthetic turds! I don't think the composition was much like plexi (acrylic), there were reports that you could break off pieces of it by hand. At any rate, I played the Ibanez Ergodyne and the Cort Curbow that were made of the stuff, and my impression of the tone was completely different from yours.
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lucite with a lisp. :P
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Luthite. Boy, were those major synthetic turds! I don't think the composition was much like plexi (acrylic), there were reports that you could break off pieces of it by hand.
That luthite crap was a trip, bascially a finish-candied styrafoam that they mixed too thin and yes, it DID just crumble and fall off of many of those basses. I never heard any massive sub lows out of them that weren't the result of their electronics. On some of those models, Ibanez used mostly passive tone controls with a single active bass boost. Maybe you had one of those Uwe?
At any rate, I played the Ibanez Ergodyne and the Cort Curbow that were made of the stuff, and my impression of the tone was completely different from yours.
Never saw one of those Cort Curbows; all the ones I tried had wood bodies. Nice basses: bodies way too small for my playing style. I played one of the real Curbows that was made of the resin-injected wood once years ago. The neck was very Modulus-like but the tone was just weird but not necessarily bad, really taking on both the properties of carbon fiber highs and upper mids while still having "woody" lows.
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It was most likely active. It was the hi-end model at the time so a 9 volt might have deceived me. I was so disappointed with the sound (especially the B string), I put it away quickly.
I only played a Dan Armstrong once, long ago. I didn't sound thin to me, rather short-scalish grumbly.
Admittedly, those plexi drums from the seventies didn't have the fattest sound. We once had a drummer with one. It miked well and looked great. And wasn't too loud in the rehearsal room either. :mrgreen:
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Admittedly, those plexi drums from the seventies didn't have the fattest sound. We once had a drummer with one. It miked well and looked great. And wasn't too loud in the rehearsal room either. :mrgreen:
The nice thing about Vistalites is that their toms actually sound like tom toms are supposed to and leave the sublows to the kickdrum. The paradox of a modern drum sound is that the rack and floor toms now have deeper bass sound than the supposed "bass" drum, which has been reduced to an atonal click riding on an infrasonic pulse while the rack and floor tom rolls sustain for hours and completely drown out what little bass guitar tone might be mixed in below the massive boom of the guitars' muddy slurry.
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When Drums Were Drums
http://snd.sc/PaN7d7
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I've always found the plexi-bodied basses to be VERY anemic sounding with little lows and highs and mostly nasal mids.
Agreed - that's exactly what my Ampeg ADA4 reissue is like - even with flats, it's all mids. I only own it to play occasionally in the Stones tribute.