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Title: Favorite Avant-____ and Indie Artists?
Post by: chromium on February 26, 2008, 10:31:34 AM: As we are now openly professing our love for artists like Asia and John Zorn, and watching surreal Bonnie Tyler covers played on Frigidaires, I suddenly feel less self-conscious about some of my own secret indulgences.

I've been getting into a nice little band called Trio Convulsant lately. I think what draws me in, besides the fact that each member is incredible in their own right, was the sort of role reversals that go on - moreso than your typical jazz trio. Ches Smith (drums) plays more of an improvisational role, while Mary Halvorson (guitar) and Trevor Dunn (bass) seem to adhere more to the compositional structure and even hold down the beat in places where Smith is pushing/pulling against the tempo. Pretty trippy stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU6GtEI6cvE
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: chromium on February 26, 2008, 10:33:46 AM: Another artist I've been digging is Booster:

http://www.myspace.com/boosterized (http://www.myspace.com/boosterized)

I'm a big synthesizer nut. Almost as fanatical about those as I am basses, so that's what appeals to me here. Elements of Miles, Headhunters, etc. with a modern spin. I especially like PerMutation.

What else ya got??
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: gweimer on February 26, 2008, 11:43:07 AM: Deerhoof.

+81
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJkbcrHPABA&feature=related

Wrong Time Capsule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNi0AkVunZQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 26, 2008, 12:12:01 PM: Quote from: chromium on February 26, 2008, 10:31:34 AM
As we are now openly professing our love for artists like Asia and John Zorn, and watching surreal Bonnie Tyler covers played on Frigidaires, I suddenly feel less self-conscious about some of my own secret indulgences.

I've been getting into a nice little band called Trio Convulsant lately. I think what draws me in, besides the fact that each member is incredible in their own right, was the sort of role reversals that go on - moreso than your typical jazz trio. Ches Smith (drums) plays more of an improvisational role, while Mary Halvorson (guitar) and Trevor Dunn (bass) seem to adhere more to the compositional structure and even hold down the beat in places where Smith is pushing/pulling against the tempo. Pretty trippy stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU6GtEI6cvE

Great clip. First avant female guitarist I have seen.

it seems as though the crowd is ignoring the band, till they grab the bull by the horns.

I used to listen to a lot of avant music, Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser, Jack Dejenette,Sonny Sharrock & James Blood Ulmer

Great stuff and makes a sure test of who your friends really are.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 26, 2008, 12:24:32 PM: My Myspace friend Idiot saint Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqR4TwLUrM

On a lighter note
Soviet Cartoon-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NVGMT1HiiQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: chromium on February 27, 2008, 10:17:53 AM: Quote from: gweimer on February 26, 2008, 11:43:07 AM
Deerhoof.

I just have to say - these guys (and gal) blew me away! Same kind of feelings I had seeing and hearing Fugazi for the first time. Gentle, savage, raw, emotionally charged, beautiful music. And I love seeing talented, unorthodox drummers in action. This Greg Saunier guy is tremendous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sws9c7-NQT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sws9c7-NQT0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYSeygs97Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYSeygs97Q)

Too bad the audio is so crappy on the live footage I've found so far. The studio recording of that song "C" (first link I posted) is absolutely haunting and ethereal.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: gweimer on February 27, 2008, 11:43:53 AM: Quote from: chromium on February 27, 2008, 10:17:53 AM
I just have to say - these guys (and gal) blew me away! Same kind of feelings I had seeing and hearing Fugazi for the first time. Gentle, savage, raw, emotionally charged, beautiful music. And I love seeing talented, unorthodox drummers in action. This Greg Saunier guy is tremendous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sws9c7-NQT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sws9c7-NQT0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYSeygs97Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYSeygs97Q)

Too bad the audio is so crappy on the live footage I've found so far. The studio recording of that song "C" (first link I posted) is absolutely haunting and ethereal.

Thanks!

My son turned me on to them. They do some pretty riveting prog-pop. Their later albums are more cohesive (The Runners Four and Friend Opportunity). I saw them live (did write-up for I-See-Sound.com), and they were about the most intense live band I've seen in 20 years. And Satomi, their bassist/singer, really is only about 4 feet tall. I've posted shots of her with the Hofner before, and it looks huge on her.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: nofi on February 27, 2008, 02:19:14 PM: flying lizards, again john zorn, dna(no wave nyc band), killdozer, trio(german version), terry riley, einsturzende neubauten(early stuff), sleep, art ensemble of chicago, pineal ventana, late bronze age(col. bruce hampton), and on and on.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Dave W on February 27, 2008, 02:43:24 PM: Killdozer? Killdozer is avant-whatever?

I have most of their recordings, and I'm not ashamed of it, no matter what anyone else thinks. :D
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 27, 2008, 03:04:38 PM: Nels Cline is brilliant in so many ways!!!

From the avant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vKEFJ5eiO8

To Wilco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazavSaqFUo&feature=related
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 27, 2008, 03:08:01 PM: Mike Watt with Melt Banana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ITdadASoQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: PWV on February 27, 2008, 03:22:33 PM: Butch Morris!!! I love his conducting, its more like watching a painter decide which colors to use...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_j4qxRyDxk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_j4qxRyDxk&feature=related)
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: nofi on February 27, 2008, 04:33:46 PM: killdozer is great. maybe not real avante garde but avante strange. best lyrics ever from an alleged rock band. think louder, slower, louder, slower. btw you tube stuff of them is lame. not a good representation at all. wilco?
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: PWV on February 27, 2008, 04:56:29 PM: Quote from: nofi on February 27, 2008, 02:19:14 PM
flying lizards, again john zorn, dna(no wave nyc band), killdozer, trio(german version), terry riley, einsturzende neubauten(early stuff), sleep, art ensemble of chicago, pineal ventana, late bronze age(col. bruce hampton), and on and on.

+1 on Art Ensemble of Chicago

(http://www.africanafrican.com/negroartist/RECORD%20ALBUMS2/slides/Art%20Ensemble%20of%20Chicago%20Nice%20Guys.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Dave W on February 27, 2008, 11:05:25 PM: Quote from: nofi on February 27, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
killdozer is great. maybe not real avante garde but avante strange. best lyrics ever from an alleged rock band. think louder, slower, louder, slower. btw you tube stuff of them is lame. not a good representation at all. wilco?

Fortunately I have warm fuzzy memories of seeing them live in the early to mid 90s. And the music abides.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: gweimer on March 06, 2008, 06:58:32 PM: Bat For Lashes - capturing the '60s girl band sound nicely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wnOUH2jk8
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: uwe on March 07, 2008, 03:49:13 AM: Wow, that made me immediately order their CD. Love it.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on March 07, 2008, 05:59:04 AM: Quote from: gweimer on March 06, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
Bat For Lashes - capturing the '60s girl band sound nicely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wnOUH2jk8

Love the video.

For the Yoko lovers

Yolk-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_KBBeuNTM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdiG4MeCHKc&feature=related
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on March 07, 2008, 11:13:21 AM: Gezoleen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHZXMXvjaWU
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: slinkp on March 08, 2008, 09:31:04 PM: Off the top of my head, hmm...

The Walking Hellos
http://www.walkinghellos.com/music.php

Renminbi (same drummer as W.H.)
http://www.myspace.com/renminbi
unfortunately I'm missing a gig of theirs right now...

need something noisier? all hail the mighty Boredoms...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boredoms
I have seen them three times in the past 15 years, each show radically different.

Oneida really impressed me, saw them a couple times last year:
http://www.myspace.com/oneidarocks

I am so happy that Mission of Burma got back together:
http://www.missionofburma.com/

and finally I'll plug my own band, Giggle the Ozone:
http://www.myspace.com/gtozone
the last song is probably closest to what we do since I joined, this stuff is freaking hard for me.

and hey, I remember Killdozer too! "Hey! You! You call this a hamburger? Well, I don't call this a hamburger..."
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: gweimer on March 11, 2008, 09:33:58 PM: I'm surprised that I forgot these guys. I saw them at MPMF in 2005 and thought they were great!

Groove Addiction (now The Addiction)
http://www.theaddictionmusic.com/music/

A couple more, although these guys may have passed into the mainstream.

Shiny Toy Guns
"Le Disko"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7gCRSH6sec

"You Are The One"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxbWaMzsnJo
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: chromium on March 17, 2008, 12:33:45 PM: Quote from: slinkp on March 08, 2008, 09:31:04 PM
and finally I'll plug my own band, Giggle the Ozone:
http://www.myspace.com/gtozone
the last song is probably closest to what we do since I joined, this stuff is freaking hard for me.

Man - no kidding! Cool punk/newwave-inspired sound. I like the stuff you guys have up, especially The Zenith Imperitave.

Thanks for turning me onto Renminbi too.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-whatever and Indie Artists?
Post by: Barklessdog on March 17, 2008, 12:45:17 PM: Quote from: chromium on March 17, 2008, 12:33:45 PM
Man - no kidding! Cool punk/newwave-inspired sound. I like the stuff you guys have up, especially The Zenith Imperitave.

Thanks for turning me onto Renminbi too.
Agreed cool music Slink. Slink is always hooking us up some creative stuff.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-____ and Indie Artists?
Post by: chromium on July 11, 2008, 02:55:13 PM: Maps and Atlases

http://www.myspace.com/mapsandatlases

A couple of my favorites were "Every Place is a House" and "Big Bopper Anthems". It kind of reminds me of what it might sound like if They Might Be Giants put out an album with Discipline-era King Crimson - or something.
Title: Re: Favorite Avant-____ and Indie Artists?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2008, 09:58:04 AM: Sparks is avant garde, right?

And I love them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HnYM3SQ460

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFrFhwMQMXg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2r8XTKBPUY&feature=related