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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: uwe on February 07, 2011, 08:52:10 AM
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!CEMTlnwBWk~$(KGrHqQOKpEE0WD9-hRvBNRHfmmuz!~~_12.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-GIBSON-EB-2-BASS-GUITAR-/220731987828?pt=Guitar&hash=item3364a6d774
It probably sounds great though. :-\
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The vintage 3-point bridge only adds to the value and versatility. :vader:
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Well, it had to have something good added to it, right? :P
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All that bass needs is JACK CASSIDY!!
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All that bass needs is JACK CASSIDY!!
Right!
Not Jack Casady the musician, though. That would be wrong.
and I'm not sure this mania is confined to Fender types. There are people everywhere who will screw up nice instruments.
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Oops...my bad...."Casady."
Looks like a cross between his early hollow bodies and his Alembic.
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In the absence of Jack, his brother David will sing a song for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12M2xMx2eeU&feature=related
I always liked his voice. Does that make me very :gay: :gay: :gay: or just a little?
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In the absence of Jack, his brother David will sing a song for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12M2xMx2eeU&feature=related
I always liked his voice. Does that make me very :gay: :gay: :gay: or just a little?
Brother? Wow, ya learn something new every day, I always thought Jack was David's dad!
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I always liked his voice. Does that make me very :gay: :gay: :gay: or just a little?
You're quite :gay: Herr Moderator............ ;)
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Brother? Wow, ya learn something new every day, I always thought Jack was David's dad!
:mrgreen:
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Let's not forget that Danny Bonaduce was the (fictional) bassist.
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Sorry to say this, but those Fender pick ups match quite well with the Model1 (I believe that is)
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In the absence of Jack, his brother David will sing a song for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12M2xMx2eeU&feature=related
I always liked his voice. Does that make me very :gay: :gay: :gay: or just a little?
I guess not any moreso than liking David Hasselhoff :)
The first time I was ever in Germany, I couldn't believe all the skyscraper sized Hasselhoff billboards you guys had!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Maybe you can promote a double bill of Hasslehoff & Cassidy?
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Only if Heino opens the show ;D
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It needs Shaun Cassidy.
Actually it needs to fall asleep on the sofa with Jack Cassidy.
Too harsh?
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In the absence of Jack, his brother David will sing a song for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12M2xMx2eeU&feature=related
I always liked his voice. Does that make me very :gay: :gay: :gay: or just a little?
I like that suit! He knew how to move too.
Here is his daughter, Katie:
(http://www.davidcassidy.com/galleries/family-friends/images/katie-cassidy.jpg)
and his dad, Jack
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Jack_Cassidy.jpg)
and there's a new novel coming out tomorrow with David as a central character.
http://www.amazon.com/I-Think-Love-You/dp/1400042356/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297125930&sr=1-1
Oh, and those extra pickups make that bass look unattractive.
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All Cassidys aside, this thing has a cracked headstock, no original pups, missing the bridge, Epi case, and more irreperable damage to the top than most of the worst ones I have seen. In short, this would be great if you had an old EB-2 that was only missing its back and knobs.
$600 and climbing? For what? Tuners and a fretboard?
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This discussion is a shining example of why we're all in trouble.
"Where are we going & why am I in this handcart?"
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Oops...my bad...."Casady."
Looks like a cross between his early hollow bodies and his Alembic.
To be fair, ol' Jack Casady was quite an experimenter with multiple pickups and some pretty weird modifications. Esthetics in some of his instruments were discarded in favor of metal plates and lots of knobs and switches. He'd probably have been in the front of the line to drop Fender style pickups in a Gibson if he thought they would work.
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Actually Phil Lesh was guilty of dropping (Guild) Hagstrom pickups (yes with added alnico magnets) in Gibson solid EB bodies.
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I like that suit! He knew how to move too.
Here is his daughter, Katie:
(http://www.davidcassidy.com/galleries/family-friends/images/katie-cassidy.jpg)
and his dad, Jack
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Jack_Cassidy.jpg)
and there's a new novel coming out tomorrow with David as a central character.
http://www.amazon.com/I-Think-Love-You/dp/1400042356/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297125930&sr=1-1
Oh, and those extra pickups make that bass look unattractive.
Quite unlike Katie C. then. Unattractive I mean. :popcorn:
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There's been a Victory on eBay recently with a Jazz pickup and something else I wasn't sure about. Can't find it now. I was surprised there was no outrage about that. :P
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Victimories often fall prey of such foul things!
You think we should have a devoted Thread of Shame and Despair to collect such crimes?
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Victimories often fall prey of such foul things!
You think we should have a devoted Thread of Shame and Despair to collect such crimes?
Well it could be an interesting thread. Does anyone still have a picture of that Grabber/Ripper/G3 (not sure which one anymore) that had been turned into a slice of watermelon? That picture used to surface from time to time in the old Pit days.
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To be honest, the Ripper/Grabber/G3 clan were designed to be something entirely different: for people who loved Fenders and hated Gibsons. The Victory took it a step further - it could have been a Fender. Or even Fender Japan! While the T-bird had a long scale and a Fenderoid headstock, the whole package was Gibson-y and had all those peculiar touches that shouted out "Fender can't get their routers to do this!" Shoving a Fender pup on one of those is nothing. Putting them on an old short scale Gibson bass is sacrilege. And foolish. You can do a lot of things with an EB-2 but sounding like a Precision isn't one of them, and vice versa.
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"Or even Fender Japan!"
Insulting but apt.
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I suspect most of these modded basses get Fender-type pickups because they're the easiest to find and can often be had quite cheaply. Having a Ripper that is the best bass I've ever played, until I plug it in, I can understand why someone might be driven to do that, even to an EB2, but it would be the last resort.
I have an MIJ Fender and it's the only bass I have never considered selling. :o
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I suspect most of these modded basses get Fender-type pickups because they're the easiest to find and can often be had quite cheaply. ...
Yes, that's true now, and especially so the further back you go. Aside from the Model I, there wasn't much else in the way of drop-in replacements.
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Yes, that's true now, and especially so the further back you go. Aside from the Model I, there wasn't much else in the way of drop-in replacements.
And the Model One is not really a bad pickup - just misunderstood.
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Oh Lord! Please don't let me be mis-understood.
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/rick-1.jpg)
Coming soon a dual Model 1 equipped Carvin B4.
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I have an MIJ Fender and it's the only bass I have never considered selling. :o
I wasn't questioning Japanese quality in any way - hey, they made good divebombers too! :vader: -, but the design of the Victory is something you could imagine Japanese designers to have come up with had they been asked to modernize the P Bass and J Bass look. And they would have named it the Fender Shouri (Japanese for victory!).
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There's been a Victory on eBay recently with a Jazz pickup and something else I wasn't sure about. Can't find it now. I was surprised there was no outrage about that. :P
It was a metallic red Standard if I remember correctly and was listed on eBay for months it seemed. I don't think it was a jazz pickup but it was peach colored and looked atrocious on the otherwise nice looking bass. Maybe the original pup (made of unobtanium) took a dump and that replacement was the closest in size?
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I thought it had a Jazz pickup and one of those old Dimarzio type of humbuckers on it, both in creme color. But I'm barely awake so my memory could be foggy. Either way, it was very overpriced.
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The quality of Japanese Fenders is not in question at all. I agree with Uwe, even on their aircraft. They were decent - on the level of the Stuka. It is just that the Victory was so far afield of what one would expect or want from Gibson that it clearly ventured into a design vibe more in line with the Katana. Oddly enough, that was influenced by the Flying V, so it is all screwy.
But that was the vibe by design, and that is all found at Jules' site with his Victory interview.
I tend to like my DiMarzio's black, as I think all Model Ones were until Billy Sheehan had white ones for his Yamaha. But in the 70s you wanted that Canadian margarine dye-pack colored pickup to let the world know that you had a supahdiztorshin pickup like all the big rock guys. Now, that has gone the way of the leisure suit. I still like the old Model One for what it doesn't do - rip up old Gibsons. I wish it could have done more.
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For what it's worth: The much derided Model 1s have a fine nuanced sound with a lot of musical detail which you were probably thirsting for if you owned a mudbucker-equipped bass in the seventies where the mudbucker's emphasized frequencies boomed out everything else beyond audibility and people would always implore you to "get your bass clearer, please". They also record well. Just one thing they aren't: a force of nature like the mudbuckers. They are un-rock.
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I have an unusual opportunity to compare with the mudbucker and Model 1 in my EB-0. Granted, the Model 1 is nearer the bridge, but it does have more definition to the sound while maintaining a fairly rough and wooly sound. Certainly a more civilized version of that sound, and in today's world, a bit more useful.
I can't say how old the Model 1 is, but I was told the bass was stored for around 20 years before I got it last fall. So fr I'm doing fine with both the Model 1 and mudbucker wired direct to the output. I certainly don't need a tone control to reduce the treble frequencies.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/Gibson%20EB-0%201964/PB070018.jpg)
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I thought it had a Jazz pickup and one of those old Dimarzio type of humbuckers on it, both in creme color. But I'm barely awake so my memory could be foggy. Either way, it was very overpriced.
Yes, that's the one. Definitely overpriced.
I obviously misunderstood the Fender Japan reference, still don't really. Now, Tokai I would have understood ...
(http://www.maya29.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/talbo/talbofull.jpg)
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chrome attack. it's the jetsons...
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I have an unusual opportunity to compare with the mudbucker and Model 1 in my EB-0. Granted, the Model 1 is nearer the bridge, but it does have more definition to the sound while maintaining a fairly rough and wooly sound. Certainly a more civilized version of that sound, and in today's world, a bit more useful.
I can't say how old the Model 1 is, but I was told the bass was stored for around 20 years before I got it last fall. So fr I'm doing fine with both the Model 1 and mudbucker wired direct to the output. I certainly don't need a tone control to reduce the treble frequencies.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/Gibson%20EB-0%201964/PB070018.jpg)
That doesn't look half-bad, I must say! Considering that the Model One had its heyday in the second half of the seventies it's more than likely that the pup is considerably older than twenty years
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That doesn't look half-bad, I must say! Considering that the Model One had its heyday in the second half of the seventies it's more than likely that the pup is considerably older than twenty years
I share your thought, I just restrained my estimate because the gent who previous owned it said something like "It has been sitting in the basement for 20 years".
But we with a bit of gray at the temples know that sometimes what seems like 20 years is considerably more.
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That model one would look great chrome plated, you know. ;)
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The MB1 I had went into the PC around '78 and got junked mid-80's
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That model one would look great chrome plated, you know. ;)
I'm a big believer in chrome!