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Title: Led Petty?
Post by: Basvarken on September 16, 2010, 01:41:25 AM
Great rock song.
Zeppelin feel all over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_iBKacXIA4
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Highlander on September 16, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
+1

What's the bass...?
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: lowend1 on September 16, 2010, 12:52:43 PM
Good one. I liked it enough to download it and listen to previews of the rest of the album, which doesn't sound nearly as promising.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on September 16, 2010, 01:36:57 PM
Not bad but ain't no Zep.

I saw Zep 3 years in a row--my sophomore, junior & senior years in high school.
They played 3 hour shows the first 2 shows & 3 & a half hours the 3rd show!!!

Saw Petty once & he played 1 hour & 10 minutes.

Shows the difference in the bands. Zep LOVED to play & the Heartbreakers broke my heart. lol
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: sniper on September 16, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
nice shot of the bass @ 1:10
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: dadagoboi on September 16, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
Not bad but ain't no Zep.

I saw Zep 3 years in a row--my sophomore, junior & senior years in high school.
They played 3 hour shows the first 2 shows & 3 & a half hours the 3rd show!!!

Saw Petty once & he played 1 hour & 10 minutes.

Shows the difference in the bands. Zep LOVED to play & the Heartbreakers broke my heart. lol

Can't TP come up with his own stuff?  Really lame lyric.  I saw Zep on their first tour, they closed the Atlanta Pop Festival in '69, Good thing, nobody could have followed them.  Also saw Page playing in 3 piece Yardbirds (Dreja on bass) in '67  IIRC, quite a bit more exciting than Mike Campbell .  It should be embarrassing for a band that's been as successful and enduring as TP&HB to do such a lame 'tribute' if that's what it is. Time to pack up the plantation.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: TBird1958 on September 16, 2010, 02:06:13 PM


 Lep Zep.......House of the Holy tour 1975


 Still the worst band I ever saw live, sloppy, beyond boring.

Glad I only wasted $5.00 on them.
Good in the studio, live - not so much  :-\
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Highlander on September 16, 2010, 02:14:01 PM
2nd Knebworth show in '79 was my one and only time - most vivid memory was getting my nose broken when it made contact with a flying beer can - I enjoyed the show but they were better in the studio imho
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: lowend1 on September 16, 2010, 02:29:02 PM
+1

What's the bass...?

Might be a DiPinto Belvedere, but the headstock looks different.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Hornisse on September 16, 2010, 03:28:41 PM
I believe it is a Duesenberg bass.

http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/en_index.php
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 16, 2010, 03:43:36 PM
I believe it is a Duesenberg bass.

http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/en_index.php

Their Starplayer bass gives me G.A.S.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Basvarken on September 16, 2010, 03:45:18 PM
Can't TP come up with his own stuff?  Really lame lyric.  I saw Zep on their first tour, they closed the Atlanta Pop Festival in '69, Good thing, nobody could have followed them.  Also saw Page playing in 3 piece Yardbirds (Dreja on bass) in '67  IIRC, quite a bit more exciting than Mike Campbell .  It should be embarrassing for a band that's been as successful and enduring as TP&HB to do such a lame 'tribute' if that's what it is. Time to pack up the plantation.

I like the song. That's all that matters for me.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: uwe on September 17, 2010, 03:15:23 AM
It sounds like Zep and is probably meant to though that type of bloated 12-bar stuff leaves me cold, never having really liked Zep and their use of chords and harmonies that tend to be neither here nor there as regards minor or major key (I know, that is part of their charm, I do respect their contribution to rock music, it just doesn't sound "right" to me though).

This is actually one of the worst songs on the new Petty album. It's overall a very guitarish album (even back in the eighties Tom phantasized about doing "an all-out hard rock album", this is not quite it, but it goes in that direction). And Led Zep isn't the only band that gets a nod, so does Wishbone Ash, twin harmony guitars and all, someone must have given Tom and Mike Campbell a copy of Argus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0JwsooTM6M&feature=related

 
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: lowend1 on September 17, 2010, 04:21:45 AM
I believe it is a Duesenberg bass.

http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/en_index.php

So it is. Good call!
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Muzikman7 on September 17, 2010, 09:51:32 AM

 Lep Zep.......House of the Holy tour 1975


 Still the worst band I ever saw live, sloppy, beyond boring.

Glad I only wasted $5.00 on them.
Good in the studio, live - not so much  :-\
I agree.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Basvarken on September 17, 2010, 10:07:49 AM

Good in the studio, live - not so much  :-\

+1
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Highlander on September 17, 2010, 10:27:08 AM
Duesenberg Starplayer - anyone here ever tried one, or any of their ilk...?
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on September 17, 2010, 03:12:55 PM
I like the song, but the production is too sedate. There's a much meaner monster in that performance than that track reflects. It would be better if it had shone through. That was one area Zep usually got right: bombast, (though it didn't always translate live). I really like Tom Petty, quite a bit more overall than Zep, but if you're going to do that style, don't be cautious about it.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: uwe on September 17, 2010, 05:15:51 PM
Zep had an inherent problem live: just two instruments which could play notes. That is why they could never sound as full as the Deep Purples, Uriah Heeps and Grand Funks of this world - Zep could never have a bass player and a keyboarder playing at the same time. And they didn't have a singer who could grab a guitar if need be - like Swan Song labelmates Bad Co for instance - either. Now if you're Rush and replicate your studio music live very slavishly and in a disciplined fashion, you get away as a three piece, but Led Zep for better or worse were never a disciplined band and never really played something twice the same way. They were also into big studio arrangements which could not be easily replicated live. Bands like Deep Purple or Uriah Heep stayed much truer to their live sound on record.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: chromium on September 17, 2010, 09:46:40 PM

 Lep Zep.......House of the Holy tour 1975


 Still the worst band I ever saw live, sloppy, beyond boring.

Glad I only wasted $5.00 on them.
Good in the studio, live - not so much  :-\


I got the DVD of their never released performance footage, and still maintain that they should have sequenced it in reverse chronological order - ending with the footage from Royal Albert Hall in '70.  That way it would finish on a positive note!  That's the only concert footage on there that did anything for me.
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Droombolus on September 18, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
Saw Zep twice in the early 70s and they were great, no complaints here ........... I heard the Petty live recordings from the Pink Pop festival 1977 or 1978 on the radio back when and they blew me away........ Petty doing Zeppish material does not compute ...... bleep bleep ....... fatal error ......  :sad:  
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: Highlander on September 18, 2010, 02:31:04 AM
Still really iritated that Dog On The Run never emerged with the recent anthology (on CD, all nice and pristine and clean) as my original is well past it's best... >:( :sad:
Title: Re: Led Petty?
Post by: ilan on September 18, 2010, 03:28:04 AM
(http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/image/inst/b_star_b.jpg)