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Title: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 29, 2022, 07:28:40 AM: Here's a first look at my latest acquisition. She plays great and sounds massive. I'll do it in a custom color at some point but a few things need to be addressed furst. https://youtu.be/Cs7I2jhPExQ
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Basvarken on August 29, 2022, 08:09:43 AM: Great find Scott!
It obviously needs some TLC.
But I'm quite sure she'll turn out beautiful!

I vote for Heather Poly ;)
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2022, 08:42:25 AM: Sigh, learning Tshörmenn lesson 1, lieber Scott:

'Schaller' is not ponounced "shay-ler" like in oil shale, but "shuller" like a lull in work.

Now repeat after me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZD_zvtMOI

Have fun with the bass. Substance looks good, anything else can be done in the aftermath.

PS: No saws!!! 8)
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2022, 10:23:30 AM: Quote from: uwe on August 29, 2022, 08:42:25 AM
Sigh, learning Tshörmenn lesson 1, lieber Scott:

'Schaller' is not ponounced "shay-ler" like in oil shale, but "shuller" like a lull in work.

True, but you'll still hear shay-ler quite often here.

You'll also often hear Dee-a-dario instead of Duh-dario.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: morrow on August 29, 2022, 10:27:50 AM: and Ricken backer
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Alanko on August 29, 2022, 11:06:23 AM: Or Messer schmitt!

Edit: poor quality German-baiting aside...

I can't watch embedded YouTube videos on this forum on my phone.

I found your channel, Scott, through judicious searching!

A nice bass! All the right bits are there! No ugly over sanding on the body or regrettable routing.

For the headstock I would route and install splines from the rear then add a long back strap of mahogany. Not something I've ever done, but it seems like a good way of toughening up that area while still maintaining the appearance of an un-modified neck.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 29, 2022, 11:29:04 AM: I would do splines normally but there is so little original material left I am hesitant to remove any original material for splines.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2022, 12:36:54 PM: Quote from: morrow on August 29, 2022, 10:27:50 AM
and Ricken backer

That's the way Adolph Rickenbacker pronounced his own name. Cousin Eddie, too.

Quote from: Alanko on August 29, 2022, 11:06:23 AM
Or Messer schmitt!

I can't watch embedded YouTube videos on this forum on my phone.

I'm aware of the problem. Just downloaded a new update to the embedding software and I'll install it in a bit. I hope that will solve the issue.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: TBird1958 on August 29, 2022, 01:15:55 PM: Quote from: uwe on August 29, 2022, 08:42:25 AM
Sigh, learning Tshörmenn lesson 1, lieber Scott:

'Schaller' is not ponounced "shay-ler" like in oil shale, but "shuller" like a lull in work.

Now repeat after me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZD_zvtMOI

Have fun with the bass. Substance looks good, anything else can be done in the aftermath.

PS: No saws!!! 8)

You're killing me! ;D
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Alanko on August 29, 2022, 01:46:57 PM: Quote from: godofthunder on August 29, 2022, 11:29:04 AM
I would do splines normally but there is so little original material left I am hesitant to remove any original material for splines.

That makes a lot of sense. I quite like the rat rod look with the satin natural finish and '60s guard with the Dimarzio cutout.

I'm intrigued to see where you are taking this one.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: ilan on August 29, 2022, 02:15:50 PM: Congrats. Looks like a great find.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: BTL on August 29, 2022, 04:51:41 PM: Look like fun, congrats!
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2022, 05:41:04 PM: That's ok, a lot of people say "Jipson" for Gibson in Germany too. And I-an Jillan for Ian Gillan. It also took a while before Judas Priced became Judas Priest.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2022, 06:06:13 PM: Quote from: Dave W on August 29, 2022, 12:36:54 PM
That's the way Adolph Rickenbacker pronounced his own name. Cousin Eddie, too.

You guys pronounce it Ricken Baker?

Adolph Rickenbacker actually spelled his name initially in its Swiss original "Rickenbacher". That throaty "ch" (even more throaty in Swiss than it would be in German) is not something you have in English, it's a bit like the Vietnamese "kh",

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFSKHcDHA-E

so poor Adolph's last name was probably so long mispronounced as either Ricken-bucker or Ricken-baker, he finally gave up and aligned the writing of his name with one of the mispronunciations.

In Germany today, we don't use the original "ch" tone anymore when pronouncing Rickenbacker - we pronounce it as Ricken-bucker. Ricken-baker is seldom, but not unknown.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2022, 07:21:50 PM: Quote from: uwe on August 29, 2022, 06:06:13 PM
You guys pronounce it Ricken Baker?

Adolph Rickenbacker actually spelled his name initially in its Swiss original "Rickenbacher". That throaty "ch" (even more throaty in Swiss than it would be in German) is not something you have in English, it's a bit like the Vietnamese "kh",

so poor Adolph's last name was probably so long mispronounced as either Ricken-bucker or Ricken-baker, he finally gave up and aligned the writing of his name with one of the mispronunciations.

In Germany today, we don't use the original "ch" tone anymore when pronouncing Rickenbacker - we pronounce it as Ricken-bucker. Ricken-baker is seldom, but not unknown.

http://www.rickenbacker.com/faq_item.asp?faq_id=2
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: ilan on August 30, 2022, 12:55:29 AM: Quote from: uwe on August 29, 2022, 06:06:13 PM
In Germany today, we don't use the original "ch" tone anymore when pronouncing Rickenbacker - we pronounce it as Ricken-bucker.

Just like you would say Seinfeld and not Scheinfeld.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 30, 2022, 01:14:03 AM: Quote from: uwe on August 29, 2022, 08:42:25 AM
Sigh, learning Tshörmenn lesson 1, lieber Scott:

'Schaller' is not ponounced "shay-ler" like in oil shale, but "shuller" like a lull in work.

Now repeat after me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZD_zvtMOI

Have fun with the bass. Substance looks good, anything else can be done in the aftermath.

PS: No saws!!! 8)

She reminds me a bit of my wife ;D her maiden name is Mueller, the family emigrated in1936 her dad and grandparents were fluent. There is German smatterd through our household language though I have to admit some it has more to do with Hogan's Heros than actual German language.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Alanko on August 30, 2022, 01:56:54 AM: I've heard people mangle 'Epiphone' as 'Epiphony' (phonetically close to a cod-French Epiphoné?!) or even 'Epiphany', more or less.

The biggest crime is "Gibson Epiphone" of course...

Would you like to trade it for a Gibson Epiphone Les Paul?
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: ilan on August 30, 2022, 04:55:28 AM: In Israel many have pronounced Sadowsky as Sa-dov-ski, there are many here of Jewish Polish origins with this name who keep the Polish pronunciation.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: ilan on August 30, 2022, 05:00:45 AM: /
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2022, 05:11:01 AM: Quote from: ilan on August 30, 2022, 04:55:28 AM
In Israel many have pronounced Sadowsky as Sa-dov-ski, there are many here of Jewish Polish origins with this name who keep the Polish pronunciation.

How else is it pronounced? I'd pronounce it that way too. Saidoff-ski?
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Alanko on August 30, 2022, 08:15:28 AM: Sadow as in "shadow". I've heard that in YouTube videos.

Pretty much a phonetic pronunciation.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 30, 2022, 01:48:16 PM: So I've been doing some measuring and the headstock is a full 1/4" thinner than my other NRs. :o I'm considering different materials for a cap on the headstock. Mahogany, maple and I have some aircraft grade plywood lead the pack. I'll probably go with maple, gotta think on this for a while.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Alanko on August 30, 2022, 02:14:32 PM: Any scope for graphite, carbon fibre or something like that?
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: BTL on August 30, 2022, 04:21:08 PM: 1/16" Maple on the face and 3/16" mahogany on the back?
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: ilan on August 30, 2022, 04:56:25 PM: Quote from: uwe on August 30, 2022, 05:11:01 AM
How else is it pronounced? I'd pronounce it that way too. Saidoff-ski?

Roger pronounces it Sa dau ski. DOW as in endow, or download.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 31, 2022, 06:49:57 AM: Quote from: BeeTL on August 30, 2022, 04:21:08 PM
1/16" Maple on the face and 3/16" mahogany on the back?
I have no idea how I ame upwith 1/4" difference, in my defense it was late at night. It's a strong 1/8" thinner than my other birds. I am going to do a 1/8" maple cap. Measure twice cut once as they say. :o
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2022, 06:55:53 AM: Let me, in all caution, develop a scenario to be warned of, Scott, keep your tools locked at night!

(https://cdn.w600.comps.canstockphoto.com/sleepwalker-drawings_csp5510419.jpg) ----->

(https://www.trees.com/wp-content/uploads/files/inline-images/Rip-Cut-Saw.jpg)
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: gearHed289 on August 31, 2022, 07:26:09 AM: I was thinking maybe Alembic-style veneers.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/e8/bb/b9e8bb94873f7ee33aed0df7a6a7ea83.jpg)
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 31, 2022, 09:04:32 AM: Quote from: gearHed289 on August 31, 2022, 07:26:09 AM
I was thinking maybe Alembic-style veneers.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/e8/bb/b9e8bb94873f7ee33aed0df7a6a7ea83.jpg)
I'm considering that, I have some aircraft grade plywood that might work well.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Basvarken on August 31, 2022, 09:30:04 AM: Like this modified (Alembicized) Thunderbird!

(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_0124.jpeg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_0098-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: OldManC on August 31, 2022, 06:03:08 PM: Quote from: Basvarken on August 31, 2022, 09:30:04 AM
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_0098-scaled.jpg)

I love this!
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2022, 09:28:41 PM: Not overdone at all. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: gearHed289 on September 01, 2022, 07:58:57 AM: That thing is awesome!
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on September 01, 2022, 10:44:27 AM: Quote from: Basvarken on August 31, 2022, 09:30:04 AM
Like this modified (Alembicized) Thunderbird!

(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_0124.jpeg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_0098-scaled.jpg)
I dig it! I don't really need material on the back if the neck almost all of the missing material is on the face of the headstock.
Title: Re: Recently arrived 60s Nonreverse Thunderbird
Post by: Highlander on September 01, 2022, 04:26:43 PM: Now that is a Bird I'd love to play, even with my love of minimal controls... lol