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Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« on: April 24, 2009, 10:32:25 AM »
http://blogs.suntimes.com/shinyobjects/2009/04/a-reverse-bermuda-triangle-as-wwii-bomber-is-pulled-from-lake-michigan.html

After 60 years under the surface of Lake Michigan, a WWII-era Dauntless dive bomber was rescued from the depths and may get a new home in a museum.



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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 10:49:54 AM »
I didn't know that the heroic aces of the honorable Imperial Japanese Air Force ever got as far as Lake Michigan ... tora, tora, tora!

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 11:18:50 AM »
 We have a similar repatriate here in Seattle, this Corsair ( not a Hellcat Ken  ;) ) was pulled from the southern end of Lake Washington and fully restored, it's at Seattle's Museum of Flight which I highly recomend to anyone that comes here for a visit. I've seen this one in person and it's and incrediible restoration.
 In looking at the museum's notes on the plane I found it interesting that the plane was designed by a Seattle native...........All the cool things come from here  ;)

http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/goodyear-fg-1d-corsair

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 11:30:13 AM »
I'm surprised at the condition of both those planes.  The Dauntless must have been very deep and cold to be in such good condition!
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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 12:16:35 PM »
Lake Michigan is a very cold & deep water lake. The lake never gets real warm, unlike Lake Erie which is pretty shallow & gets like bath water in the summer.

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 03:54:17 PM »
Pfffft! No chrome on either of 'em, near as I can tell! >:( ;D
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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2009, 01:49:22 PM »
Good chance that right wing hit a sunken Studebaker.

Here is a Zero that was found crash landed on a beach during WWII.  It was rebuilt by the USAAC, and given what I consider to be a fantastic new designation on its tail.

Model One and Schallers?  Ish.

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2009, 04:55:30 PM »
http://blogs.suntimes.com/shinyobjects/2009/04/a-reverse-bermuda-triangle-as-wwii-bomber-is-pulled-from-lake-michigan.html

After 60 years under the surface of Lake Michigan, a WWII-era Dauntless dive bomber was rescued from the depths and may get a new home in a museum.



I can't believe how well preserved it is ! Must be the dep cold water.
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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2009, 06:44:47 PM »
EB2... cute...  ;D

Mark - you jammy b*tch, you have the Concorde that made the last official scheduled flight on your doorstep... - I can not believe that the Spanish B*st*rds that now own Heathrow have no intrest in the last Concorde here (the first to fly operationally... G-BOAB) and British Airways (more low-life S. C. U. M.) are reputedly prepared to get shot of her...

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ps I DID recognise the Corsair; I'm going to go into a corner and sulk now, not...  ;)

We have a local museum at a site called Brooklands (which may be of note to motorsport enthusiasts) which has a museum dedicate to British Airliners, with a variety of most of Vickers and BAC's most notable types, including genuine test examples of the famous "bouncing bomb" (sorry Uwe)...

A notable "monster from the deep" is below...


The Wellington Bomber found at the bottom of Loch Ness...

They ellected to preserve "as found" rather than "re-skinning" and there is an additional fuselage you can walk through...

Right, a genuinely relevant link... Now, all because "Her Royal Seatleness" mentioned a certain museum, I'm going into full wander mode...  ;D

Barkless - Loch Ness is pretty cold too... My Grandfather used to sail the Great Lakes, living in Michigan near 2 of his sisters that settled, from around 1912 to 1915, when he managed to get a passage back to the UK, and where he was sunk in the North Sea by a German U boat (no grudge Uwe)... he went on to be sunk, again, in WW2 (still no grudge...) by mines laid by the "Passat" off the coast of Australia, in 1940... the first vessel sunk in Australian waters in WW2... the "Tought Old Boot" lived on until he had completed around 54 years at sea, in 1954...

Uwe - any relatives at sea in WW1 or 2...? especially on the Commerce Raiders, "Passat" or the "Pinguin"...? that would just be too "small world...!"

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ps - possibly my all-time favourite War movie is "Das Boot" of which I have the TV series, video, Directors Cut DVD, soundtrack LP (love it!), book and I also had the stunning pictorial book by L G Bucheim, which I eventually gifted that to my old neighbour (a German guitarist called Martin Wismer, who's dad served on U's in WW2, and who's house used to be owned by a member of the "Yardbirds", so he said), as a favour for him gifting me his copy of "Fumblin Towards Ecstasy" (by a certain Canadian chantress)... totally honest point here - I was so enamoured with the book and the film (which I have never watched in English), that I started to learn German, so I could read the book, as originally written... never made it though...

CONCORDE...

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She was sitting in the " Boeing 707 Majors" hanger being incessantly robbed for spares and was a "pet project" of the engineers to get her airworthy again, which never happened in my time in that hanger and she was the subject of one of my favourite stories...

... The greasy long-haired engineer was walking through the hanger one day, heading for a sausage sandwich (with lashings of tommy sauce), when an exceptionally loud voice called out...
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(Oh crap, what have I done now)
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A large crowd of engineers and apprentices had started to gather, trying to see why Ken was about to have a strip torn off, again...
"Err... Err... I... don't..."
"YOU HAVE JUST WALKED RIGHT UNDER CONCORDE WITHOUT BATTING AN EYELID...!"
To which he span round and marched briskly away with a big grin on his face, to the laughter of those surrounding me as I looked up at the underside of the wings of "Alpha-Golf" and said, rather dumbly...
"Oh yeah..."

The idea was simple, it was 1977 and I, amongst many others, had started to take something that was so far advanced, for granted... there is still nothing (civilian or military) capable of performing as well as Concorde... anywhere on this planet... Higher... Faster... Longer... without reheat... to Mach 2.0 and above... anyone care to disagree...?


a 1970's, French environmentalist's view of Concorde...


Roshina by the cockpit of the "Brooklands Concorde", G-BBDG, which was the first Concorde to carry a full compliment of passengers...


My supervisor, post apprenticeship, spread the word that I was one of "Ron's Blue-Eyed Boys" meaning he could dump anything on me and never worry about it not being done... he only had one operational arm (due to a 1950's bike accident) but could lift me up, literally by the scruff of the neck... oh, BTW, a tenuous GIBSON link is the RD Artist advert pic just in front of his face...


How to test the structural integrity of a Pratt and Whitney JT9D...


this shot is rocking horse droppings as no one knows of another one like it... This is "Alpha Delta" getting a respray post the only time Concorde had another airline's colours (half BA - half Singapore International) ... in the main "Boeing 747 Major's" hanger at LHR ...

I think that's probably enough randomness for this one...  ;)



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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 12:30:39 AM »
Ken,

 I'd quite forgotten that I saw that Concorde fly into Boeing Field! Hadn't really thought about it much but again if any of you guys travel to Seattle The Museum of Flight is well worth a visit and as for chrome, we have an M-21 (looks like an SR-71) but was used by the CIA to launch D-21 Drones, very rare and resplendant in natural titainium - with a little black trim

http://www.museumofflight.org/exhibits/blackbird

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 05:02:56 PM »
Now that is a rare-bird, oh "rare-bird"...  ;)

Definitely a museum I'd like to visit... not to mention that rather large hanger you have over there...!

Davis Monthan is also on the list...

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Re: Video of a Dive Bomber pulled from Lake Michigan
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 01:44:38 AM »
I'm slightly interested but not as fanatical about aircraft history as I know a lot of you are but I came across this site which has a record of all of the military crashes in Australian wartime history.

Interestingly (and I was not aware of this) the worst aircraft crash in Aust history was a  USAF B-17 Flying Fortress which crashed in Queensland near Mackay in 1943 killing 40 of the 41 service personnel on board.

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes.htm
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