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Title: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Captcolour on June 07, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
Meet Gracie (named after Grace Slick):

(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq127/captcolour/Cuda/2013%20Pics/IMG_1336.jpg) (http://s440.photobucket.com/user/captcolour/media/Cuda/2013%20Pics/IMG_1336.jpg.html)

(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq127/captcolour/IMG_1324small.jpg) (http://s440.photobucket.com/user/captcolour/media/IMG_1324small.jpg.html)

1970 'cuda, 440, 4 speed
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 07, 2014, 10:44:43 AM
Nice Hemi cuda'! How's she do on the quarter?
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: TBird1958 on June 07, 2014, 03:33:15 PM


 F%^&*%@  A!  Nice.

What's the story here? Is this your restoration work- beautiful!
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Hörnisse on June 07, 2014, 03:39:02 PM
Nice!  My cousin has a '71 440 'Cuda with the 4 speed.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Captcolour on June 07, 2014, 06:53:50 PM
I bought it restored.  I've done a few minor things like the trunk interior, but knew better not to start one from scratch yet.  Found on Craigslist in the Bay Area 4 years ago, hence the name Gracie.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: TBird1958 on June 08, 2014, 10:44:13 AM

 Beautiful metal on that car, loving restoration!
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Pilgrim on June 08, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
I just got back from a Good Guys car show.  Much, much automotive eye candy there.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 08, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Oh wait. That's not necessarily a Hemi right? You got the 6 barrel carb tho right? I haven't got a total handle on all the technical jargon but like em just the same. Hope you're enjoying the whip on this fine day :)
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Pilgrim on June 08, 2014, 09:20:50 PM
Six barrels = six pack = three deuces = 3 two-barrel carbs.

US auto slang can be like translating at the U.N.

440 six pack = 440 cubic inch V8 with three two barrel carbs.

Engines like that are why they call the pedal on the far right "the loud pedal."
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: lowend1 on June 09, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
The Plymouth 440 Six Barrel / 440+6 ("Six Pack" is the Dodge brand terminology) is referred to as a "Wedge" motor, because the combustion chambers are wedge-shaped. The Hemi has hemispherical combustion chambers. Performance-wise, the 440+6 will hang with the Hemi until you get into the upper RPM ranges.
Beautiful car, BTW, but all Mopars are beautiful - even the ugly ones.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Denis on June 09, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Nice! Years ago I saw a road test comparison between two '70 GTXs. One had a 440 4 speed, the other was a hemi. The 440 was slightly quicker off the line and the two were pretty evenly matched until you saw the breakdown of the 1/4 and 1/2 mile times. The 440 was losing steam at the same time the hemi was picking up speed. Pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: nofi on June 09, 2014, 01:58:57 PM
when i think of hemi i think of the sixties early seventies 426 street hemi. you can find the 'new' hemi in everything from trucks to a jeep cherokee. same name, way different motor.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: lowend1 on June 09, 2014, 04:51:32 PM
Nice! Years ago I saw a road test comparison between two '70 GTXs. One had a 440 4 speed, the other was a hemi. The 440 was slightly quicker off the line and the two were pretty evenly matched until you saw the breakdown of the 1/4 and 1/2 mile times. The 440 was losing steam at the same time the hemi was picking up speed. Pretty interesting.

Yeah, the Hemi idles like a coffee can full of rocks, but it will pull stumps in 4th gear.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Pilgrim on June 09, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
Monster torque...Chrysler rated the 426 hemi at 490 lbs/ft @ 4000 RPM.  According to some quick research, the modern Hemi engines vary from 375 to 420 lbs/ft at engine speeds from 5K to 6K RPM depending on the engine and application. 

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html

My 1966 GTO 389 V8 was rated at 440 lbs/ft of torque at 2800 RPM, but the original 426 produced max torque at much higher RPM. No wonder it pulled so hard at high speed!
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Denis on June 11, 2014, 07:33:36 AM
When new, the 4 barrel 383 in my '66 Polara was rated at 420 ft lb. When I owned the car in the late '80s my buddy put it on the dyno at his shop and at 55mph, it was still putting out 390 ft lb.

I REALLY, REALLY miss that car.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: Captcolour on June 14, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
Oh wait. That's not necessarily a Hemi right? You got the 6 barrel carb tho right? I haven't got a total handle on all the technical jargon but like em just the same. Hope you're enjoying the whip on this fine day :)

It is just a straight 4 barrel.  The six barrel is about a $3,000 upgrade.  With the Shaker, you can't see the carb anyway, so to me not worth the cost or the hassle keeping them tuned.  If I remember, you do add about 15 more HP with the six barrel though.

And Lowend1 explained the terminology perfectly.  Like the 6 barrel option names being different, color names were different between the 'cuda and Challenger.  My color is actually called Tor Red, even though everyone knows it as the Dodge name Hemi Orange.  Same paint code EV2.
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: lowend1 on June 18, 2014, 10:06:45 AM
Grist for the Mopar mill...
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/16/1971-plymouth-hemi-cuda-convertible-auction-record-video/
Title: Re: Classic Mopar Muscle
Post by: gearHed289 on June 19, 2014, 07:26:22 AM
Rich guys trading cars like baseball cards.  :rolleyes: