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Title: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: godofthunder on December 31, 2023, 08:11:20 AM
  Just a few tid bits for the upcoming year Epiphone will be releasing thier 60s Thunderbirds in three custom colors, not the usual suspects either!
   Also Epi is resurrecting a mid 70s favorite that should grab ya. All I can say for now. Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on December 31, 2023, 03:21:55 PM
Custom colors = always a good sign that things are going well for the model.

I wasn't aware of any 70s Epi favorite so I suspect it's an Epi version of a mid 70s Gibson.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on December 31, 2023, 04:23:47 PM
Ripper?

I'll also assume no lefties. Uwe, if we don't die from power tool accidents, it's sadness from limitation.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Chris P. on January 01, 2024, 04:18:32 AM
I guess there's a clue in 'That might GRAB ya'.

I saw the Custom Colors. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 01, 2024, 04:35:49 AM
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Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 01, 2024, 06:00:55 AM
They did Epi Rippers , but I don’t think they ever did a Grabber run.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: BTL on January 01, 2024, 10:30:27 AM
Sounds like Epiphone is taking a run at the market. Nice.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: godofthunder on January 01, 2024, 06:11:48 PM
I guess there's a clue in 'That might GRAB ya'.

I saw the Custom Colors. Can't wait!
  ;)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 01, 2024, 06:15:40 PM
I guess there's a clue in 'That might GRAB ya'.

I saw the Custom Colors. Can't wait!

I should have noticed that!

(https://i.imgur.com/cG06If0.gif)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2024, 09:35:32 PM
Epi Rippers were always essentially Grabbers because they all had a bolt-on neck. And the first generation ones even had only one (crappy) pup, albeit non-sliding. The Limited Edition 2nd generation had a P/J combo which sounded decent.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 06, 2024, 01:25:08 AM
There was a nice walnut/rosewood Grabber that I was offered 40 years ago and now wish I hadn't passed on. Looked something like this

(https://rvb-img.reverb.com/image/upload/s--aq3FZsPa--/f_auto,t_large/v1647366894/kfvyevsx1nph30cglnn4.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 06, 2024, 05:46:17 AM
Damn!
That’s hot.

I recently passed on a reissue Ripper for a really good price simply because I’ve been sticking with shortscales. May not have been the brightest decision.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 06, 2024, 02:26:06 PM
They got themselves heard with their nasty growl. It's what Gene Simmons liked about them, who preferred them to the Rippers he had also received for free from Gibson.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 07, 2024, 03:59:19 AM
Has anyone tried to rewire a G3 to get the solo'ed pickups? Did it sound good? Honestly I never liked in-between settings on either bass or guitar (the only exception being a Ric 4001, as in Smoke on the Water).
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 08, 2024, 06:59:05 AM
They got themselves heard with their nasty growl. It's what Gene Simmons liked about them, who preferred them to the Rippers he had also received for free from Gibson.

Well, if Gene Simmons liked them, you know I'll need to look into buying one.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2024, 01:26:16 PM
You'll need some matching wardrobe then, Dave, don't attempt anything half-arsed!

(https://genesimmonsandshannontweed.weebly.com/uploads/8/3/7/2/8372047/3305973.jpg)

(https://rvb-img.reverb.com/image/upload/s--sYmglbC---/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1487132962/wyrnckfftu5kuvjemp2v.jpg)

(https://axeology.com/image/Grabber1975b.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/37/75/ab/3775ab32eba7a67a616afe51ff82dbe5.jpg)

(http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gene_simmons_shoving_a_bass_guitar_into_his_mouth.jpg)

And he's a nice, even power poppy bass player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtubDq8OlOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8q4VcGoVlc

Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 09, 2024, 08:39:26 PM
I'll pass, thank you. Assclown fashion isn't for me.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 09, 2024, 10:50:51 PM
Journalists had provoked him, he wasn't himself! That drawing was added in the aftermath, this being taken in California, you could of course see the fault line.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: westen44 on January 10, 2024, 11:17:45 AM
I don't know when the timeline is supposed to be.  I'm ready for something new from Epiphone now, especially if it's something like a Grabber.  Frankly, I'm tired of waiting. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uMQIqtD6Ik
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 10, 2024, 01:11:05 PM
It will probably be a NAMM announcement … two more weeks.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on January 10, 2024, 03:03:53 PM
I'm surprised they didn't bring back the Rivoli or a short scale set neck EB3.


Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 10, 2024, 05:13:30 PM
I was half expecting an Epi DC Jr.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 10, 2024, 11:41:13 PM
I was half expecting an Epi DC Jr.

Now that would be a hit.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 11, 2024, 05:59:17 AM
Great little bass for a reasonable price.
It would be a win.

My Jr remains one of my favourite things to pick up and play.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on January 11, 2024, 04:45:43 PM
Just saw this on a Dutch bass forum:

Epiphone is set to re-issue the iconic Gibson Grabber model bass from the 1970s, which was discontinued in the 1980s. The Epiphone Grabber bass will be available in a natural finish, and black finish. Unlike the original sliding pickup, this re-issue will sport a non-movable, mounted pickup. All this goodness will be available for a price of $999.99
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 11, 2024, 05:37:03 PM
Ain't no Grabba if it ain't a-slidin'.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 11, 2024, 06:04:16 PM
Great little bass for a reasonable price.
It would be a win.

My Jr remains one of my favourite things to pick up and play.

If they could come up with an Epi version with a gloss finish for under $500, it would be a best seller.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: gearHed289 on January 12, 2024, 09:43:00 AM
Ain't no Grabba if it ain't a-slidin'.

No point to grabbing it if you can't move it to and fro.  8)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2024, 12:52:31 PM
Yup, grabb'em by the pick-up, wasn't that a Presidential quote once?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Deathshead on January 13, 2024, 12:11:07 AM
Would have liked to seen the new Gene Ebo in Epi that isnt million bucks.. That reminds me. Anyone heard any news on this alleged new Gibson V Bass that never seemed to come to fruition?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 13, 2024, 10:43:16 AM
If you're talking about the G2 branded Gene Simmons affiliated version of the V, I'm guessing it got shelved probably because the G2 bird didn't sell.
The Epi Grabber will probably do well even if the pickup doesn't slide. As long as it has the cool little truss rod cover that says "The Grabber" on it. A good option would be to put a cat emoji sticker on after the The.  ;D
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 13, 2024, 02:39:06 PM
Both the original Epi Ripper (actually a non-sliding pup Grabber, the muted single pup sounded cheap and nondescript) and the much later Ripper Limited Reissue (with its P/J combo and a bolt-on neck more a Fender really, but not bad sounding at all) didn‘t sell well. Neither did the Gibson Grabber II, Ripper II and G-3 Tribute reissues by the Gibson mothership (all three of them substantially better than the 70ies Gibson originals). Compared to the SG- + TB-shapes, the pancake Ripper/Grabber/G-3 body shape is an acquired taste though I grew to like it over the years. The all-maple-induced weight won’t make it a sure seller either.

I’d be surprised if the new one will have a shelf life of more than 18 months before deletion, but then model longevity is rare with modern day Epi basses, I can only think of the TBird and the JC Signature as rare exceptions.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on January 13, 2024, 02:47:48 PM
Don't forget the Epi EB-0.
That one is a mainstay as well
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 13, 2024, 02:56:43 PM
Haven‘t they given up on that - I thought so?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2024, 08:41:21 PM
Both the original Epi Ripper (actually a non-sliding pup Grabber, the muted single pup sounded cheap and nondescript) and the much later Ripper Limited Reissue (with its P/J combo and a bolt-on neck more a Fender really, but not bad sounding at all) didn‘t sell well. Neither did the Gibson Grabber II, Ripper II and G-3 Tribute reissues by the Gibson mothership (all three of them substantially better than the 70ies Gibson originals). Compared to the SG- + TB-shapes, the pancake Ripper/Grabber/G-3 body shape is an acquired taste though I grew to like it over the years. The all-maple-induced weight won’t make it a sure seller either.

I’d be surprised if the new one will have a shelf life of more than 18 months before deletion, but then model longevity is rare with modern day Epi basses, I can only think of the TBird and the JC Signature as rare exceptions.

The Allen Woody Rumblekat and the Viola Bass have been around for many years. at least 15 years in both cases. The Embassy Bass hasn't been around that long, but it's been more than 18 months and it's still being made.

Don't forget the Epi EB-0.
That one is a mainstay as well

Haven‘t they given up on that - I thought so?

I see it's no longer on the Epi website and it's out of stock at  lot of retailers, but there are still new ones in stock.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: westen44 on January 14, 2024, 02:52:23 AM
I think they must have quit making the Epi EB-0.  But they came out with the Epiphone SG bass E-1 which seems to be the same thing with a different name.  Why they named it that, I have no idea.  Several years ago, I found a deal using coupons in which I was able to buy a new Epi EB-0 for slightly over $200.  New ones cost $289.  I got it because it was so cheap.  And since I had a Gibson EB-0, I thought I'd get an Epi one, too.  I've barely played it because I have too many other basses which are better and I'd rather play them.  The Epi EB-0/SG Bass E-1 is a beginner's bass.  But getting one could lead to advancing upward toward getting better basses in the future.  It can also be used as a beater bass.  As has already been mentioned, they seem to be getting harder to find and they're no longer on Epiphone's site.  So I don't know what's going on with them.  On the other hand, the EB-3 isn't on the site, either. 
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2024, 02:26:00 PM
They've given up on the EB-3 too - which should have been called EB-3L as it was a long scale model.

I'm not knocking Epi, I have a few. Their model policy is based on being an entry level/budget brand. They know their customers - if they stick to playing music - will eventually move to other brands, hopefully Gibson of course. Epi's model policy tries to create attention with first wave buyers as opposed to nurturing brand loyalty.

Most Epis were never badly made, it was the pups that often let them down. And with those early models emulating classic Gibson models with which they (re)started about a quarter of a century ago as Gibson's budget arm (their de facto 'Gripper' model among them) that was especially true.

The early Epi Ripper:

(https://rvb-img.reverb.com/image/upload/s--nb9s2s_6--/a_0/f_auto,t_large/v1686990519/ykxqrtr2ms5i9egeqohk.jpg)

The later one:

(https://img.audiofanzine.com/images/u/product/normal/epiphone-ripper-bass-50011.jpg)

Everything will boil down to the quality of the pup of that coming Grabber if you are not hung up on the sliding mechanism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5p4djdkfAis
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on January 30, 2024, 06:00:40 AM
Was anything launched at NAMM? I've not seen any photos yet.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 30, 2024, 06:04:37 AM
Gibson, Rickenbacker and Fender did not attend NAMM. MusicMan, Ibanez and Yamaha were the only big names there, and no big announcements either. Neve-designed pickups on the Yamaha Pacifica, new finish options for MM, the Ibanez Pat Metheney model now has a Charlie Christian pickup, that's pretty much it. And with the smaller and boutique manufacturers - more composite materials and multi-scale fanned fret 7-string guitars.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2024, 07:20:57 AM
Gibson, Rickenbacker and Fender did not attend NAMM. MusicMan, Ibanez and Yamaha were the only big names there, and no big announcements either. Neve-designed pickups on the Yamaha Pacifica, new finish options for MM, the Ibanez Pat Metheney model now has a Charlie Christian pickup, that's pretty much it. And with the smaller and boutique manufacturers - more composite materials and multi-scale fanned fret 7-string guitars.

NAMM is obviously not what it used to be.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 30, 2024, 07:25:01 AM
Forgot to mention the new Ashdown basses, long and short scale, they seem nice, $320

(https://ashdownmusic.com/cdn/shop/files/SAINTSOAP_GREEN_800x.jpg?v=1695989274)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2024, 07:27:01 AM
That looks nice and simple.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 30, 2024, 09:13:26 AM
Wasn't there a Gibson showcase event in LA last Thursday? I thought there was some new custom color Epiphone Thunderbirds being talked about. Inverness Green, Silver Mist and Ember Red perhaps?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Stjofön Big on January 30, 2024, 10:50:27 AM
That Ashdown looks sharp! Nothing unnecessary. Simplicity rules. Good enough for me.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on January 30, 2024, 11:20:33 AM
The Ashdown looks a bit barren and featureless? Like a small face on a big head. Small pickup, small knobs and miles of empty land in between them.

I don't like Ashdown amps, so nothing would inspire me to try their basses.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 30, 2024, 11:51:16 AM
The Dano fans are excited over a ruby red Longhorn , now with binding and an f hole.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Forgot to mention the new Ashdown basses, long and short scale, they seem nice, $320

(https://ashdownmusic.com/cdn/shop/files/SAINTSOAP_GREEN_800x.jpg?v=1695989274)

I had no idea you could make a Fender Jaguar Bass THAT ugly. No mean feat from those Ashdownians.

(https://max.guitars/media/catalog/product/cache/67d9904956bdde20264534f37f83c4dd/a/r/art-22430-2696.jpeg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2024, 05:43:20 PM
The Dano fans are excited over a ruby red Longhorn , now with binding and an f hole.

It supposedly has high output pickups. That's not a characteristic of classic Danos.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 30, 2024, 06:29:29 PM
They should probably say “slightly hotter”

I doubt it’s going to be Stingray hot. These are still lipsticks , there’s only so many wraps around a bar magnet that will fit inside those tubes.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 30, 2024, 06:36:58 PM
Danos have a unique charm , the designer cut every conceivable corner he could to make them cheaper.

These , by design , were the best student priced instruments they could build (by New Jersey housewives with little to no woodworking experience)

I don’t understand quite how it happened , but I fell for them. They weigh next to nothing , but they’re tough as nails. They do sound good , and really are fun to play.

I love them.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2024, 08:01:08 PM
They should probably say “slightly hotter”

I doubt it’s going to be Stingray hot. These are still lipsticks , there’s only so many wraps around a bar magnet that will fit inside those tubes.

You're probably right. Still, I wouldn't want to change the tone of the pickups by adding any more windings.

I had never heard a Dano clearly up close until I heard the late Billy Bacon play his. He had a late 90s reissue Longhorn with flats. I couldn't believe how good it sounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxUbXzMlw-k
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on January 31, 2024, 05:50:30 AM
They are great sounding basses with a good amp.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 31, 2024, 06:42:07 AM
The Ashdown looks a bit barren and featureless? Like a small face on a big head. Small pickup, small knobs and miles of empty land in between them.

Well you have just described a Firebird I  ;)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rt6-SwhCqOg/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on January 31, 2024, 09:10:51 AM


 Firebird I......

 I don't play guitar well at all, but I dig this one!

(https://i.imgur.com/aNAR34S.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Stjofön Big on January 31, 2024, 09:49:15 AM
Yeah, that's one cool mother! Wish Epiphone could make the T-bird with one pup, the II. That's a beauty. Don't know why, but it's the one pup that gets got my attention. But I don't wanna sound too selective: The three pup Firebird got me drooling!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2024, 12:16:22 PM
Well you have just described a Firebird I  ;)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rt6-SwhCqOg/maxresdefault.jpg)

Anybody got an unused stake we can burn Ilan on? Wanton heresy against Ray Dietrich's sacred design!!!

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/42/1476857883-ahs-kathy-bates-season-6.jpg?resize=1200:*)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on January 31, 2024, 12:19:13 PM
Anybody got an unused stake we can burn Ilan on? Heresy against Ray Dietrich's sacred design!!!

Why does it have to be unused?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2024, 12:22:12 PM
Valid point, we have to make do.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on January 31, 2024, 12:24:16 PM
Thank you.  I must now go report to my wife that I made a valid point.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: ilan on January 31, 2024, 04:35:31 PM
Anybody got an unused stake we can burn Ilan on? Wanton heresy against Ray Dietrich's sacred design!!!

I guess I wasn't clear enough: the Firebird I is the most elegant of the series.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on January 31, 2024, 04:36:32 PM
Yeah, that's one cool mother! Wish Epiphone could make the T-bird with one pup, the II. That's a beauty. Don't know why, but it's the one pup that gets got my attention. But I don't wanna sound too selective: The three pup Firebird got me drooling!
 

 That one is really a nice guitar, super cool banjo tuners and the paint work is really sharp, very nice guitar!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on January 31, 2024, 04:47:08 PM


 Some backside love

(https://i.imgur.com/2MZ8EXt.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on February 01, 2024, 12:00:50 AM
Nobody needs more than one pickup and two knobs anyway.

Uwe's edit: Do I detect double entendres here?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Chris P. on February 01, 2024, 01:49:12 AM
I love simple one P90 guitars.

Years and years ago I bought a reissue Longhorn. The Copperburst. I had many reasons to buy one. When I first saw one in a book, I fell in love, some of my favourite bassists used them (Rinus Gerritsen of Golden Earring, Frank Kraaijeveld of 'Dutch Stones' the Bintangs, Jack Bruce, Entwistle, the lot), but I really fell in love seeing Tom Petty play one in that Traveling Wilburys video.

I bought it new with all possible discounts from the Dutch distributor for 200 euros (I guess around 200 dollars) and I love it. I played many, many shows with it and I recorded with it. It looks very good and sixties, it's very easy to play, it's a real poser's bass (I'm 15% technique and 85% faking and posing through gigs) and it's easy to do all those poses haha! But main fact was our live engineer loved it. Our lead guitarist sounded quite muddy and the Dano cuts through. A side benefit was the attention of mainly older man (*) asking me after the gig about the bass: 'Is it an oldie' - 'I used to habve one' - 'I'm a big fan of Rinus...' etc.
(*) Nowadays fortunately enough young girls want to borrow it, because of Maneskin haha.

One bad thing: intonation: tune it, check the tuning at the twelfth fret, take the strings of, take the bridge of, move the piece of rosewood a bit, put the bridge back on, mount the strings, tune it, check the intonation at the twelfth fret, take the strings of, take the bridge of, move the piece of rosewood a bit, put the bridge back on aigain, mount the strings, tune it.... so the intonation of my Longhorn is always 'good enough'.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 01, 2024, 03:02:38 AM
Just curious, did you tape your nipples playing it?

And to bring the subject to its logical and ultimate conclusion according to which all threads end in Deep Purple, Roger Glover played both a single- and a double-neck Hondo Longhorn in the early 80ies when still with Rainbow. He thought it recorded very well, but didn't use it live for lack of ultimate oomph.

(https://www.deeppurple-artandhistory.com/s/cc_images/cache_10512737.JPG)

You can hear the 8-string here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sby69Y_69s4
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Chris P. on February 01, 2024, 10:57:28 AM
No. #freethenipples
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on February 01, 2024, 03:33:57 PM
Danos have a unique charm , the designer cut every conceivable corner he could to make them cheaper.

These , by design , were the best student priced instruments they could build (by New Jersey housewives with little to no woodworking experience)

I don’t understand quite how it happened , but I fell for them. They weigh next to nothing , but they’re tough as nails. They do sound good , and really are fun to play.

I love them.


I never gave them much thought until I had to repair my friend's DC59 (Jimmy Page style?) Danelectro. Yes they are cheap, but they are built using another era's version of cheap, frugal design principles. I found it fascinating to work on, and all the design quirks gave it a unique tone. Sort of dirty and unfocused with a rusty, wiry edge to the tone.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2024, 09:33:33 AM
There's Roger with the Hondo Longhorn (good shot at 03:43), I had forgotten about this particular vid, he likely also used it to record the track as well as he was in love with the Hondo's recorded sound at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByGwgm_vRs
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2024, 09:56:32 AM
Watching this, I think I'm getting a Longhorn too ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BhG_PhPHyI



Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on February 07, 2024, 12:41:17 PM
Watching this, I think I'm getting a Longhorn too ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BhG_PhPHyI
   

 I don't think my spine has ever worked that well   :o
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2024, 12:47:56 PM
Dave will no doubt agree that Italian bassists are special.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on February 07, 2024, 12:53:05 PM
Watching this, I think I'm getting a Longhorn too ...

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BhG_PhPHyI

I think she's my future ex-wife.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: morrow on February 07, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
There’s a long tradition of topless girls playing Danos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5uhKpjvG8
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2024, 05:21:57 PM
Let's get this back on track, I only had eyes for that lovely mock-Non-Rev at 00:38 - and what a pleasantly boppin' performance that was!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 07, 2024, 05:53:04 PM
Cool group. Who's going with me to the Ladybird reunion tour? Should be a knee slapping good time!  ;D
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Pilgrim on February 08, 2024, 10:06:57 AM
Cool group. Who's going with me to the Ladybird reunion tour? Should be a knee slapping good time!  ;D

In my mind's eye, I see what you did there.....
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on February 08, 2024, 03:24:51 PM
Cool group. Who's going with me to the Ladybird reunion tour? Should be a knee slapping good time!  ;D

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

One of my neighbors has a business renting out those inflatable bouncy castles. Perfect venue for their reunion tour.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 09, 2024, 07:49:53 AM
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

One of my neighbors has a business renting out those inflatable bouncy castles. Perfect venue for their reunion tour.

Good thinking Dave, that way the band can dance the monkey or the jerk without having to take their hands off their instruments.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 09:52:08 AM
You guys are terrible. Gravitation is a fact of life.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: BTL on February 09, 2024, 09:59:19 AM
I keep expecting to see photos of new Epiphone basses. Imagine my surprise with what I find instead. :)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Pilgrim on February 09, 2024, 10:28:17 AM
I keep expecting to see photos of new Epiphone basses. Imagine my surprise with what I find instead. :)

Could become a new saying:

"Look at the Epiphones on THAT one!"
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 01:26:53 PM
I keep expecting to see photos of new Epiphone basses. Imagine my surprise with what I find instead. :)

But it isn't all bad, is it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76FghI7HGyM
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: n!k on February 26, 2024, 12:26:48 PM
Seems one snuck by on reverb a week ago. I'm guessing this silver mist is one of the new colors. Made in China like the new Rex Brown Thunderbird; so Indonesia birds are done for now? The included gig bag is interesting... not sure it's a good pair with the '60s headstock!

https://reverb.com/item/79495129-epiphone-thunderbird-64-4-string-electric-bass-guitar-with-gig-bag-silver-mist?show_sold=true

(https://rvb-img.reverb.com/image/upload/s--SRExl5P_--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1708357507/srdu01oy0hvz9iuqu3tc.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: gearHed289 on February 27, 2024, 09:05:35 AM
Oh man, I like that!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
Is it just my eyes or is the string holder

(https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/99/86/81/500_F_99868112_zOEOVgZo0RgAxqaLuqgSTnPfxTkaED74.jpg)

not quite parallel with the bridge?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on February 27, 2024, 09:24:51 AM
Sweetwater has them up.

https://www.sweetwater.com/epiphone-inspired-by-gibson/series?Scale+Length=34%22
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: gearHed289 on February 27, 2024, 10:10:31 AM
I just got an email from CME about them.

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/epiphone-inspired-by-gibson-thunderbird-64-inverness-1870014?variant=40966087704711&trk_msg=LQKECTPRFF5K340U07GFJ2E3M4&trk_contact=1LP5I7FREU48I8ELLL5IP1CR7C&trk_sid=VM2AD38ODOPS361EQHMC2N38FS&trk_link=1NTL8BQUNUI4BCO4576NQB3K7G&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Epiphone+Inspired+by+Gibson+Thunderbird+%2764+Inverness+Green+(image)&utm_campaign=LT+Email+Epiphone+Firebird+27022024 (https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/epiphone-inspired-by-gibson-thunderbird-64-inverness-1870014?variant=40966087704711&trk_msg=LQKECTPRFF5K340U07GFJ2E3M4&trk_contact=1LP5I7FREU48I8ELLL5IP1CR7C&trk_sid=VM2AD38ODOPS361EQHMC2N38FS&trk_link=1NTL8BQUNUI4BCO4576NQB3K7G&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Epiphone+Inspired+by+Gibson+Thunderbird+%2764+Inverness+Green+(image)&utm_campaign=LT+Email+Epiphone+Firebird+27022024)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on February 27, 2024, 10:15:27 AM
Sweetwater has them up.

https://www.sweetwater.com/epiphone-inspired-by-gibson/series?Scale+Length=34%22

Sweetwater needs to fix their spelling.  "Iverness."
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on February 27, 2024, 11:48:11 AM

I've never seen anything that shade of green in Inverness. Things are a bit more dark and mooted up there.

Maybe 'Culloden green' is next on the agenda.

(https://static.nationalgeographic.co.uk/files/styles/image_3200/public/d4htwt.jpg?w=800&h=450)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2024, 05:03:05 PM
I've never seen anything that shade of green in Inverness. Things are a bit more dark and mooted up there.

Maybe 'Culloden green' is next on the agenda.

(https://static.nationalgeographic.co.uk/files/styles/image_3200/public/d4htwt.jpg?w=800&h=450)

And I thought you lived on Earth.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Ken on February 27, 2024, 05:03:47 PM
And I thought you lived on Earth.

Middle-earth
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2024, 06:03:59 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/kTHhkIlCtQYAAAAC/clapping-lord-of-the-rings.gif)

Alan has a perm too then?
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on February 27, 2024, 11:08:42 PM
Is it just my eyes or is the string holder

(https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/99/86/81/500_F_99868112_zOEOVgZo0RgAxqaLuqgSTnPfxTkaED74.jpg)

not quite parallel with the bridge?

You're right, it's obvious on all three on Sweetwater's site plus their extra stock in Red and Inverness. I wonder why.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2024, 03:14:33 AM
A think its the bridge that is mounted askew
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: BTL on February 28, 2024, 06:36:14 AM
A think its the bridge that is mounted askew

...and I'm assuming it's intentional.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2024, 07:16:36 AM
Maybe it is. But unnecessary, since the bridge is wide enough for proper intonation.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2024, 09:36:23 AM
I think it's the bridge that is mounted askew

I thought about that too.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on February 28, 2024, 10:19:09 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/kTHhkIlCtQYAAAAC/clapping-lord-of-the-rings.gif)

Alan has a perm too then?

Ich wohne Mittelschottland, nicht Mittelerde.

Have Ich keine Haare.

Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on February 28, 2024, 10:59:41 AM
No, it's definitely the tailpiece. I printed out one of the large Sweetwater images and measured. The bridge is parallel to the pickups, the tailpiece is slightly farther away on the G string side.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
As a pensioner, Dave does have time for things like that. 8)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2024, 12:33:07 PM


 I collect for Fins, that damn red one is calling my name  :P
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2024, 12:40:58 PM

 I collect for Fins, that damn red one is calling my name  :P

You vile speciesist!

(https://wwfint.awsassets.panda.org/img/original/p6_2_shark_fin.jpg)

Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2024, 01:56:56 PM


 Hey, it's a nice shade of red, I only have a Cherry Studio to keep it company - I need another Thunderbird!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on February 29, 2024, 02:50:21 AM
No, it's definitely the tailpiece. I printed out one of the large Sweetwater images and measured. The bridge is parallel to the pickups, the tailpiece is slightly farther away on the G string side.

Not in this pic it ain't

Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on February 29, 2024, 10:36:59 AM
What did I start?!

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/08/opinion/08Douthat/08Douthat-superJumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on February 29, 2024, 11:06:21 AM
I wouldn't trust any geometries to be faithfully reproduced on an image that potentially came from a smartphone or similar small device.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Dave W on February 29, 2024, 08:50:51 PM
Not in this pic it ain't

It does look like the bridge is a tiny bit off in that pic, but the tailpiece is obviously farther off.

I wouldn't trust any geometries to be faithfully reproduced on an image that potentially came from a smartphone or similar small device.

I printed the image from my desktop, aligned the print with the edge of a desk. ran a small t-square ruler across it.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: doombass on March 01, 2024, 05:27:00 AM
To me it looks like the disallignments differ between pic 1 and pic 5, so I'd agree with both Rob, Dave and not to forget definitely Alan who probably solved the mystery.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on March 01, 2024, 05:42:56 AM
I printed the image from my desktop, aligned the print with the edge of a desk. ran a small t-square ruler across it.

If the geometries are distorted in the source image then no amount of analysis is going to get around that. Somebody is going to have to measure one of these basses in the flesh.

It would seem fitting that with the advent of Gibson prices for Epiphone instruments we start seeing Gibson factory errors in Epiphone instruments as well. Subtly erode quality and consistency while jacking the price. Fender MIM instruments seem to be in a similar low ebb just now.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Basvarken on March 01, 2024, 06:47:46 AM
I'm pretty it's just this one. all the other pics of the Inverness Green and Ember Red are mounted perfectly fine. Although the saddles seem to be maxed out to the front of the bridge.

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/429850770_948638353299328_8916077110253244561_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=hbUoJrJOhakAX90CkmC&_nc_ht=scontent-ams2-1.xx&oh=00_AfCsrNepX6U8FcDm2BIBSSB45P1CIf2XjJv5oYZd4ugiyw&oe=65E5F25B)

(https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/429816366_948638383299325_5386916088879360621_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=WT5mH8NDuiAAX9PoB1e&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AfCC5tG6lxVFGE_R9S3wx-pFrEN-CYusfl53LwdVx2Hh2w&oe=65E780DF)
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Alanko on March 01, 2024, 11:53:04 AM
Time for Badbird 2.0!
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on March 02, 2024, 01:11:15 PM


 Red one inbound......... :-*
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2024, 06:05:00 PM
You have enough Thunderbirds, Mark.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: TBird1958 on March 02, 2024, 07:46:57 PM
You have enough Thunderbirds, Mark.
   

 Respectfully, no. There's at least one or two more that I really would like to have.
Title: Re: Epiphone for 2024
Post by: Chris P. on March 06, 2024, 01:03:07 AM
As you might know I've sent back my Gibson Nonrev in Inverness Green because of quality issues. I looked forward to see this one (as a press guy I saw the pics very early) but looking at the pictures more often I GAS for the silver one.....

There's one on it's way for a review!