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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Basvarken on May 06, 2024, 08:18:22 AM »
ZZ Top used backing tracks and also sequencers back in 1980 already.
Even in the Rockpalast show you mentioned they had backing tracks. For example with the horn section that was themselves. They hadn't figured out how to synchronize it to their own live part yet, as it sounded kinda sloppy.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 06, 2024, 06:40:24 AM »
Good catch, Alan, though I’m not sure whether it might not be an electric piano rather than a guitar. (The studio version features prominent keyboards during the solo.) But there is undoubtedly a fourth guy playing.

That said, offstage keyboard and other support was nothing new even in the 70ies, Sabbath and Quo had it too. Michael Schenker had his guitar tech play rhythm guitar parts behind the Marshall stacks when Michael was soloing in MSG line-ups sans a second guitarist. And in the 80ies it became de rigueur: Ozzy, Whitesnake, Foreigner and Iron Maiden all had offstage keyboarders.
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Fender Basses / Re: Looks legit
« Last post by amptech on May 06, 2024, 02:59:28 AM »
That's funny.. My Epi ET-280 came with a 'FENDER' Dymo logo. Kind of regret I took it off :)
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Alanko on May 06, 2024, 02:03:12 AM »
This is them circa 1980, and there is a rhythm guitar track coming from somewhere during the solo. Could be an offstage musician? At a guess they wanted the clean look of a three piece band?

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 08:50:29 PM »
That's sobering.  :-\

I saw them in 2017 with Status Quo as openers at an open air. The difference was day and night: Everyone laughs about Quo, but  their music is the epitome of live excitement, warts and all as well as taking the piss out of themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louOWbSA4aI&list=PLOaOZamj9YJVGz7LZ1jZGxJ7EKVTL1SJr

ZZ Top were very collected, safe and lifeless in comparison.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Dave W on May 05, 2024, 08:34:53 PM »
He has a whole army of canned rhythm guitar tracks behind him when they play the 80ies hits and the background vocals don't sound real either, let's not even talk about the sequencers, but does he lip sync too? It wouldn't surprise me. ZZ Top's legacy as a great live band goes back to the 70ies and early 80ies, ever since then they have become more and more "augmented" live.

Yes, according to a member at TDPRI who saw them in Sacramento Friday night. he said Billy's voice would keep singing when Billy would step away from the mic.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 07:39:09 PM »
Funny thing about Alice Cooper having a boa on stage is that they are wonderful creatures.  I've had one.  It was probably just thrilled to have warmth.

Like all snakes it was also deaf (they have an inner ear that senses vibrations, but doesn't really "hear") - that no doubt helped!  :mrgreen: It wasn't even his snake and saw retirement to a snake farm eventually. It must have liked the warmth from the stage lights, but keeping it cozy warm during transport must have been a task. And then Alice's alcohol breath ...

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 07:25:32 PM »
I know. Poor critters. Not that it was remotely "worldwide", they didn't even get to Canada or Mexico, it was strictly nationwide (in the Lower States).

But one look at their opening acts during 1976/77 tells you how big they were, albeit as a strictly US-American phenomenon: Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Wet Willie, Marshall Tucker, BÖC, Rory Gallagher, J. Geils Band, Bob Seger, The Outlaws, Ted Nugent, Foghat, Foreigner, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Pure Prairie League, REO Speedwagon, Styx, Edgar & Johnny Winter, The Band, Montrose, Point Blank, Head East, Elvin Bishop, The Dictators, Santana, Rush, Nils Lofgren, Sea Level, Burton Cummings, Muddy Waters, Climax Blues Band, Piper, Blackfoot, Atlanta Rhythm Section and Starz.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Ken on May 05, 2024, 06:35:31 PM »
Funny thing about Alice Cooper having a boa on stage is that they are wonderful creatures.  I've had one.  It was probably just thrilled to have warmth.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by doombass on May 05, 2024, 04:51:41 PM »
The ZZ Top Worldwide Texas Tour that went on for several years (around 75-77) was huge. They used shticks like having livestock, vultures and rattlesnakes on stage but I've never heard of any faking og the musical performance. It was a massive production with great revenue.
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