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Title: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 05, 2016, 11:38:43 AM
Just kicking myself around the place...

Last weekend I spent a half-day installing backer rod and caulking around two dormers and a 30-foot stretch on the back side of the house where new roofing left a gap between the siding edge and new shingles. I carefully selected clear caulk for this---or was sure I had.

Today i went out to check AGAIN to see when it would turn clear.  Still white.

So i checked the empty tubes, and one of the four was clear. The others are all white.  Someone must have dropped a clear tube into the other box, and i read its label and grabbed four.

MY FAULT for not checking each tube individually.  MY FAULT for not seeing it while I was climbing up and down the ladder.

Now I have white goop visible in the gap and on the dark shingles nearly all the way around the damn house.  And it's just after noon as I post this, so even getting a picture was tough....one frustration leads to another.

I'm checking options including removing it and re-caulking.  If I don't do that, the best idea I have is painting it black.

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Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: gearHed289 on September 06, 2016, 07:32:45 AM
Ugh, that sucks. A couple of years ago I bought a tube marked clear. It was the whitest "clear" I'd ever seen.  :-\
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: dadagoboi on September 06, 2016, 09:12:03 AM
Like a newborn child it happens every day...

Paint it, black.  Or maybe to match the roof above would be better.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Basvarken on September 06, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
Who is going to climb onto the roof to check the color of the caulking?

Leave it. There are more important things in life to worry about.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 06, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Who is going to climb onto the roof to check the color of the caulking?

Leave it. There are more important things in life to worry about.

You're right! but...

Unfortunately it kind of makes a thin white racing stripe down the side of the house.  I am now the proud owner of a can of flat black paint and a 1" brush with which to make it less obtrusive. Doing it right would be stripping off the caulk, but it's not worth the grief.  I'll go for camo.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Lightyear on September 06, 2016, 04:15:46 PM
Depending on the brand of caulk why don't you just pick up a couple of tubes of the gray, black or bronze color and just "schmear" a coat of the color stuff over the white?  I've never cared for the clear, non 100% silicone caulks, as they all tend to yellow or get cloudy pretty fast.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 06, 2016, 07:58:16 PM
Hadn't thought of a concealing layer of colored caulk!  I would need a medium to dark brown, but I'll take a look around. That would be more durable than paint.

Thanks for the idea!
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Highlander on September 07, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
... as they all tend to yellow or get cloudy pretty fast...

+1 ... would need to be high-end and have UV proof properties... I'd have prob gone for roofers mastic... black gunk... you have my commiserations, but if you try the "paint-it-black" route the paint will have to be of a highly flexible nature or it will just flake off...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRDF_0lfHk
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: dadagoboi on September 07, 2016, 01:42:52 PM
Silicone caulk isn't generally meant to be painted unless it says, "paintable" IIRC.  Or is it acrylic of some kind? 

Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Lightyear on September 07, 2016, 04:54:08 PM
There's roofers sealant that is a butyl based product.  I use siliconized acrylic - the brand I like is Alex - both HD and Lowes carry it.  Pilgrim I think the bronze color is what you're after.  This stuff is paintable but I think it will last long enough unpainted to serve it's purpose.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 07, 2016, 09:12:03 PM
I made sure not to use a silicone caulk in case of a problem like this, so that's OK.

I checked the bronze stuff today - it's nice and dark, and looks perfect.  Picked up 3 tubes and will use them.

Right now I'm on a short two-day vacation in Breckenridge, Colorado so no action on the caulk until this weekend.  I REALLY appreciate the idea to use the bronze caulk - I think that will work fine.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: lowend1 on September 08, 2016, 12:03:59 PM
What does any of this have to do with WWII aircraft? >:(
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 08, 2016, 01:32:51 PM
Nothing, although I suspect Mark could do something clever with a tube of caulk if challenged...  :o
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: patman on September 09, 2016, 08:10:41 AM
Have used the bronze "Alex"...it is my favorite brand also...
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Highlander on September 09, 2016, 01:44:37 PM
We used to use Dow Corning sealant on the nav lights on Concorde... not quite WWII but I'm sure someone can make a connection... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: wellREDman on September 09, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
What does any of this have to do with WWII aircraft? >:(
I wouldnt be hugely surprised if the Mosquito didnt have caulk holding something in place
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: lowend1 on September 10, 2016, 08:26:02 AM
I wouldnt be hugely surprised if the Mosquito didnt have caulk holding something in place

That's better. Always one degree of separation around here.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 10, 2016, 10:25:09 AM
Have used the bronze "Alex"...it is my favorite brand also...

Home Depot has a "Quad" brand, rated for exterior use.  Got some.  Might have the chance to use it tomorrow.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Dave W on September 10, 2016, 02:16:21 PM
Home Depot has a "Quad" brand, rated for exterior use.  Got some.  Might have the chance to use it tomorrow.

OSI Quad is what the siding, window and roofing contractors around here use. Make sure you have a decent caulking gun, Quad requires some force to get out of the tube. Some cheap caulking guns won't be up to the job.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 10, 2016, 06:21:29 PM
Thanks...good to know .
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Highlander on September 10, 2016, 11:20:25 PM
Presume that stuff has good low-temp tolerance...
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 11, 2016, 09:07:20 AM
Presume that stuff has good low-temp tolerance...

Yup, it might as well have a little Frosty the Snowman on the label. 
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
Like a newborn child it happens every day...

Paint it, black.  Or maybe to match the roof above would be better.
+1
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Lightyear on September 11, 2016, 12:23:31 PM
"......Make sure you have a decent caulking gun......."

If Pilgrim is anything like me he probably has a half dozen somewhere in his garage  :-[  Invariably when I need one I've properly stored mine and can't find them X months or years later so I buy yet another one.  I do have a couple of the commercial grade guns and Dave is right - when you have a lot to do or  really stiff caulk a good gun is worth it.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 11, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
I think mine is up to it, as it's better than the basic models. Right now I'm delaying work by watching the Packers.
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2016, 05:10:57 PM
If Pilgrim is anything like me he probably has a half dozen somewhere in his garage  :-[  Invariably when I need one I've properly stored mine and can't find them X months or years later so I buy yet another one.  I do have a couple of the commercial grade guns and Dave is right - when you have a lot to do or  really stiff caulk a good gun is worth it.

I only have two and believe it or not, I know where both of them are! OTOH there must be dozens of spools of teflon plumbers tape around here  yet I can never find one when needed. And what happened to all my spark plug gappers and car fuses?
Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 11, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
I have 40+ years' worth of tools accumulated but I'm the only one who can find most of them in the garage. But I used the caulking gun (it didn't seem harder than normal) and got all the white colored...including a few spots where I had laid my hand on the shingles and left white caulk marks. They're brown now and blend in perfectly..

I use all the garage, including the ceiling. In the third picture below, you can see a black car top carrier mounted in a rack next to the ceiling.  A perfect way to avoid using space where we need to walk and move things.

I recently added ceiling-hung led light fixtures in front and half-way back - I only have the front ones on in this pic. They really do light things up.

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Title: Re: General aaaaarrrrrghhhhh...
Post by: Pilgrim on September 13, 2016, 10:24:11 AM
Thanks for the suggestion of the bronze caulk. It covered the white stuff perfectly!  I also used it to cover some white caulk residue on some shingles where I got careless with my touch...the bronze is a near-perfect color match for the earth tone shingles.

Mission accomplished, and it only took about 30 minutes.