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Title: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Denis on February 11, 2019, 05:51:30 AM
Yeah, those pesky little things which are always missing....

I have one of the four I need. Over the weekend I reached out to some contacts in the antique motorcycle world about the possibility of having some made, using mine as the model.
Those guys in the antique motorcycle world can make ANYTHING and I've already found one guy who told me he can do it.

Joe said that the nuts had a small plastic piece inside to allow for intonation without removal of the nut. He's going to try and get me photos.

Don't know how many I need to make as a minimum but there's already enough interest for a few dozen.

I'll let everyone know how this goes.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 13, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
The insert in the nuts is nylon and it is there to prevent the nuts from coming loose with vibration. They are called Nyloc nuts.

Count on a dozen for me.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2019, 11:36:47 AM
"... prevent the nuts from coming loose with vibration ..."

As a man approaching senior citizenship, I'm greatly worried about that too.

I should have two dozen at least.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2019, 03:07:07 PM
"... prevent the nuts from coming loose with vibration ..."

As a man approaching senior citizenship, I'm greatly worried about that too.

I should have two dozen at least.

Must you dunk everything in your puerile double entendre-drenched smut?  :rolleyes:

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Granny Gremlin on February 13, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
 :mrgreen: :toast: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Pilgrim on February 13, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
Must you dunk everything in your puerile double entendre-drenched smut?  :rolleyes:

 :mrgreen:

I thought we all depended on that as a feature of this distinguished forum.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2019, 09:32:53 AM
It's not mandatory, but it helps, sort of the lube between us.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Dave W on February 14, 2019, 09:35:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhT51tmUE0E
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: westen44 on February 15, 2019, 04:56:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-k700ORTBw
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Denis on February 16, 2019, 12:11:30 PM
The insert in the nuts is nylon and it is there to prevent the nuts from coming loose with vibration. They are called Nyloc nuts.

Count on a dozen for me.

Can you send me a clear photo of that insert? I don't think the one nut I have has it!
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: lowend1 on February 16, 2019, 02:54:05 PM
Can you send me a clear photo of that insert? I don't think the one nut I have has it!

Who are you, Hitler?
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 16, 2019, 05:49:45 PM
Can you send me a clear photo of that insert? I don't think the one nut I have has it!

You can see a few examples at https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=nylock+nut

There are acorn nuts too but the nyloc part isn't too visible https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=wq5oXJnXM4SgjwSazq2oCg&q=nylock+acorn+nut&oq=nylock+acorn+nut&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0.29688.32918..34587...0.0..0.89.471.6......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39j0i7i30j0i13.RNtUDibTLmk
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 16, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
What is the external dimensions of the original nut, the wrench size? Would it be possible to find nuts with the correct exterior dimensions and drill and tap them for the bridge saddle screw threads?
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Dave W on February 16, 2019, 08:01:24 PM
Who are you, Hitler?

(https://i.imgur.com/sVBBANy.gif)
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: OldManC on February 17, 2019, 02:06:50 PM
Is there a rough price estimate? (I don't have an immediate need, so if they're $10 a piece I'd pass. But it's always nice to have some in the parts bin if needed.)
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: lowend1 on February 18, 2019, 09:41:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sVBBANy.gif)

Vaudeville ain't dead, Dave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZlFBSRrSR0
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2019, 09:47:57 AM
Who are you, Hitler?

That was Göring. Shot off during the march to the Feldherrenhalle during the failed 1923 coup.

(https://lewweinsteinauthorblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hitler-at-the-feldherrnhalle.jpg)

Bad aim. They should have have shot Hitler's head rather than Hermann's ball. He remained fertile though.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2019, 03:25:30 PM
Quote

Bad aim. They should have have shot Hitler's head rather than Hermann's ball. He remained fertile though.


Sad news: Bruno Ganz died this past Friday. Someone is upset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUjFAL4lyYg



Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2019, 04:32:42 PM
Yes, sadly so, he was a great actor - and not just in that Führer role that is probably the most quoted movie sequence ever.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: lowend1 on February 18, 2019, 11:10:13 PM
That was Göring. Shot off during the march to the Feldherrenhalle during the failed 1923 coup.

(https://lewweinsteinauthorblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hitler-at-the-feldherrnhalle.jpg)

Bad aim. They should have have shot Hitler's head rather than Hermann's ball. He remained fertile though.

Shame on you, Uwe. Are you not aware of Hitler's missing/undescended testicle? The subject occupies almost a whole chapter of Robert G L White's book "The Psychopathic God - Adolf Hitler".
The WWII British Tommies even added a verse to the Colonel Bogey March:
Hitler has only got one ball
Goring has two, but very small
Himmler is very sim'lar
And Goebbels has no balls at all


Red Army pathologists found no evidence of a second nut (not even a roasted one) in their autopsy of Hitler's remains. In addition, GQ magazine reported on it thusly:
"In 1923, Hitler was examined by a prison doctor after his arrest following the failure of his first attempt to seize power in the Munich Beer Hall Putsch.
The records of that examination clearly show that Hitler had an undescended testicle on the right side, according to Prof Peter Fleischmann of Erlangen-Nuremberg University."

This concludes today's pubic service announcement.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Bionic-Joe on February 19, 2019, 05:59:08 AM
What is the external dimensions of the original nut, the wrench size? Would it be possible to find nuts with the correct exterior dimensions and drill and tap them for the bridge saddle screw threads?


Nope Nope Nope...it's NOT a Nylock Njut...Its a small white piece of plastic inside at the bottom of the hole to stop the 6/32" screw from going any further.  That is so Once the screw goes through the rear of the bridge, it then threads through the saddle and then back through the bridge, ending with the hex cap nut. you tighten the nut and if correct, you should be able to freely adjust the saddle back or forward. It's NOT a nylock with a Nylon washer along the thread. Its a tiny spacer as described. I will TRY to remove one of mine....they all have locktite on them
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2019, 11:49:50 AM
The records of that examination clearly show that Hitler had an undescended testicle on the right side, according to Prof Peter Fleischmann of Erlangen-Nuremberg University."

This concludes today's pubic service announcement.

Well if you calculate it that way, then I have no balls at all!  :-\ :-[ I can still pull'em up and have them descend, never thought much about it, until my urologist told me two years ago that "that is not quite the way it is supposed to be once you are an adult", adding helpfully: "but if it hasn't given you trouble until now, it won't anymore".  :mrgreen: And before you ask: Yes, I have children, and, yes, they do look like they could be mine. But you know how wimmin are.

I sometimes have to dislocate them gently though: I'm pretty good at doing that - I habitually do roll call grips during the day and count to 2 - largely unnoticed even when wearing a business suit.

Anyway, my point being: You see that it's a German thing.  ;D
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Denis on February 19, 2019, 11:56:34 AM
Joe is correct, they are not nylok nuts. Maybe 50 years ago they made nuts like this for other uses but if anyone has found a manufacturer making them now we would already have a lifetime supply for our Thunderbirds.

The are more like a low profile hex cap nut with a rounded, almost flat top with a lip around it.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Denis on February 19, 2019, 11:57:02 AM
Side
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: Denis on February 19, 2019, 11:57:24 AM
Size
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 20, 2019, 04:30:11 PM
Wow. Obviously I didn't pay much attention to them when I had them. They did get lost after all.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: BTL on February 20, 2019, 04:42:45 PM
Is there a compelling reason a #6-32 cap nut (https://www.grainger.com/product/6XEN0?gclid=CjwKCAiAkrTjBRAoEiwAXpf9CQ0KU6Yq-N5x03vQwv7eL1vu8RoZqRiA2Q8J1BuFGSIjYkr98c7JJBoCAzgQAvD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=CjwKCAiAkrTjBRAoEiwAXpf9CQ0KU6Yq-N5x03vQwv7eL1vu8RoZqRiA2Q8J1BuFGSIjYkr98c7JJBoCAzgQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916713277!!!g!109231852197!) will not serve the same purpose?

Search for "extra low crown cap nut" or "extra low crown acorn nut".

I'm thinking you could flatten the end by putting it on a piece of threaded stock, chucking it in a drill, and spinning it against file.

That's probably what the machine shop will do, but with more professional tools.
Title: Re: '60s Thunderbird bridge nuts...
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 22, 2019, 09:25:16 AM
But is 5/16" across the flats the correct spec?