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Bionic-Joe

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Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:51:01 AM »
Does anybody here KNOW if the vintage 1960's Epiphone Embassy and Newport basses headstock's are the exact same size??? Thanks
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 01:35:13 PM »
The batwing version? I'm going to guess yes based on pics I've seen of both but that's purely speculative on my part.
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 04:41:04 PM »
Yes the Batwing...(which most people don't know it's NOT a batwing but the letter "E") but I need someone to confirm. can someone measure the headstocks starting from the nuts to the tip of the headstock??
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 04:31:32 PM »
I believe Uwe will be able to help you but he's very busy with work right now.
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 10:43:47 PM »
That would be cool! My buddy Tony Carl has an Embassy with a repaired headstock...I saw a Newport neck for sale...thought that he could possibly use it for a NICE restoration scarf joint!
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 05:24:27 PM »
Unfortunately nope! Embassy is 11" (nut to end), Newport only 10 1/2" (nut to end) because the cheesy Newport tuners take up less room on the back ...
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 09:53:01 PM »
What exactly is so cheesy about them?  :o
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 06:52:48 AM »
Quote from: Basvarken on August 08, 2018, 09:53:01 PM
What exactly is so cheesy about them?  :o


Some of the Newports had the cheaper tuners Gibson used on the Kalamazoos and occasionally on regular Gibsons.

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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 09:10:58 AM »
Those look like they have a wider footprint than the ones in my pic.
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2018, 01:04:15 PM »
I think you're right.
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2018, 09:30:12 AM »
That's the general issue with thought, not always to correct conclusions it doth lead!  :mrgreen:

The cheesy tuners are only 1 3/4" wide (the ones in Rob's pic almost 2"), they seem larger because the (my?) Newport headstock is a perfect miniature of the Embassy headstock (so they seem to take up more space). The Newport headstock is not only shorter but also less wide than the Embassy's (2 3/4" at the jagged protrusion in the middle of the  "E"/batwing as opposed to 3" with the Embassy).

What I can't rule out though is that the batwing headstock of the Newport came in two sizes (large and small), depending on what tuners they used.

Si(gh)ze matters!  :-\
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 12:03:43 AM »
Quote from: uwe on August 10, 2018, 09:30:12 AM

What I can't rule out though is that the batwing headstock of the Newport came in two sizes (large and small), depending on what tuners they used.


Looks like it, yes.
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Re: Are Epiphone Embassy & Newport Headstocks the exact same size?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2018, 08:37:31 PM »
Thanks Guys!
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