The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Basvarken on December 03, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
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I think parting out a perfectly good instrument is stupid.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-Body-Neck-Vintage-LP-Bass/113418726994?hash=item1a68486e52:g:lEUAAOSwTiVcBIAP:rk:3:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-WIRING-HARNESS-POTS-SWITCHES/113418947824?hash=item1a684bccf0:g:Y20AAOSwH0VcBJ41:rk:4:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-NECK-PICKUP-Vintage-LP/362500506667?hash=item5466b6c42b:g:LskAAOSwPXFcBJRh:rk:11:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-BRIDGE-PICKUP-Vintage-LP/362500505247?hash=item5466b6be9f:g:gUgAAOSwg5FcBJHd:rk:18:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-ORIGINAL-KNOBS-SWITCH-TIPS/362500522782?hash=item5466b7031e:g:sa4AAOSwTiVcBJyR:rk:24:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-NECK-PICKUP-RING/113418895819?hash=item1a684b01cb:g:dusAAOSwQqZcBJWF:rk:25:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-TUNERS-Gibson-Logo/113418915343?hash=item1a684b4e0f:g:6AsAAOSw5EpcBJoB:rk:37:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Triumph-Recording-Bass-Guitar-TRUSS-ROD-COVER/362500520376?hash=item5466b6f9b8:g:rJkAAOSwRbJcBJuA:rk:40:pf:0
I hope the bloody moron doesn't sell any of it.
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Yes that's too bad. The parts from that bass adds up to ~2460$ including the bridge which is sold by now.
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Make more money that way so def not stupid. Short sighted; selfish; dick move? Sure. ..... then again, if you need some spare parts.... aw frick $200 for the wiring harness and 400 for a pickup ( without mountng ringing!). Dude be maaaaaaaaaad.
The tuners will sell. The only somewhat reasonably priced bit i seen so far ( not looked at it all).
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This guy has been doing that for years. I think I've seen him referred to as "the New Jersey butcher" or something like that. It's within anyone's right to do this, but it sucks when they do things like separate a Rickenbacker jack plate (where the serial number is stamped) from the original instrument.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sofindtype=0&_byseller=1&_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=60191-2600&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=gibsondependable&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_fosrp=1
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The Stratosphere have been operating on this basis for yonks; I suppose what hurts here is that it was likely the bass was a) Vintage and b) perfectly usable as was. The seller obviously feels he's hit paydirt.
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The Stratosphere have been operating on this basis for yonks; I suppose what hurts here is that it was likely the bass was a) Vintage and b) perfectly usable as was. The seller obviously feels he's hit paydirt.
I saw a thread on Talkbass last week. The OP was looking for a set of pickups from a PJ Mustang bass, and Fender pointed them in the direction of the Stratosphere!! Fender know and acknowledge this guy, though I doubt they have any sort of contract in place.
I've never really 'dug' the Stratosphere, as the guy chops instruments and then used to list everything twice; once with a high BIN price and once with a low opening bid price. You get lured in with the attraction of a $150 body that he seriously wants $300 for. By the time you've collected enough parts to make a full instrument you've paid well over the odds. Luckily the Stratosphere limits their destruction to modern, off-the-shelf instruments.
A few guys, like the Butcher here, tend to pick up horribly modified vintage gear and then simply recover everything of value and hock them on Ebay. It does sometimes seem that largely complete instruments fall victim to the screwdriver though.
My least favourite is Eddie Vegas. He charges stupid money for banal stuff like vintage Fender brass grounding/shielding plates, or the rubber grommets used to stance pickups in pre-CBS Stratocasters, or whatever. He also tries to promote this celebrity personality online, and can't play guitar very well at all (a common theme with a lot of luthiers, techs and breakers). I don't like being given a lecture on the importance of pre-CBS pickups from somebody who knows three stock blues phrases and hasn't grasped the concept of vibrato.
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The Stratosphere have been operating on this basis for yonks; I suppose what hurts here is that it was likely the bass was a) Vintage and b) perfectly usable as was. The seller obviously feels he's hit paydirt.
To me that is VERY different. Vintage irreplacable (as in there is now one less of them and no more will be made) instrument vs new current production. My only issue with Stratosphere (as well as Gibson Dependable - same sort of thing) is that their prices are whack. Occasionally some good deals on the odd part, but generally it's a 3x relister before someone finally gives in because of impatience.
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A perfectly good Gibson Triumph bass is not a car wreck that is being dismantled in the scrapyard as a donor for parts.
The only reason to part this bass out is money, money money.
It spells greed and ignorance.
And I'm not okay with that.
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It's always a shame to see somebody butcher up a repairable or perfectly good guitar for the sum of it's parts. Remarkably, there are still NOS parts showing up at a fair price after all of these years if you watch for them.
I just scored a NOS Les Paul Signature pickup complete with mounting ring for $100.00. He was asking $179, dropped the price to $150 in less than five days. I offered him $100 & he accepted it. Rarer than hens teeth!
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I'm not all right with parting out vintage gear, but nothing can be done about it.
The Stratosphere is different. Not vintage parts. As I understand it, it's just a guy, with his wife and maybe an assistant. He buys new dealer overstock and mint recent gear, AFAIK he's not authorized by Fender or Gibson.
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A perfectly good Gibson Triumph bass is not a car wreck that is being dismantled in the scrapyard as a donor for parts.
The only reason to part this bass out is money, money money.
It spells greed and ignorance.
And I'm not okay with that.
The saying goes that nothing is certain but death and taxes. But I think we could easily add greed and ignorance to that.
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Gibsondependable hacks up EB0/3's, Rippers etc without anyone lifting an eyebrow?
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Gibsondependable hacks up EB0/3's, Rippers etc without anyone lifting an eyebrow?
A few people have lifted some eyebrows at the Gear Page.
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The saying goes that nothing is certain but death and taxes. But I think we could easily add greed and ignorance to that.
I'm not okay with death and taxes either :mrgreen:
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I'm not okay with death and taxes either :mrgreen:
Not a fan of either, and new taxes are becoming more of a pain than ever before. :o
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Gibsondependable hacks up EB0/3's, Rippers etc without anyone lifting an eyebrow?
Yeah, you're right, but they do this very rarely - usually it's new production stuff and shitty ubiquitous and near unplayable harmonies (and other low end dept store brands that have become fashionable lately).
Above I was talking about the new prod aspect of their business - same as Stratosphere.
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Above I was talking about the new prod aspect of their business - same as Stratosphere.
Yeah, I was just thinking is there a difference between hacking EB's and Les Paul basses, but I really don't mind.
Of course hacking a fine old bass is bad, but again I have bought probably 10 'hacked' gibson basses over the last 10 years -
maybe 3 of them from Gibsondependable. Ok, they have been in much worse condition than described, one '65 EB0 was described as 'plays great' but had a bad neck reset and about 20mm action at the lowest... but I got them for cheap and they are all good players now. I just never had money to buy 60's Gibson in perfect condition, and by the way there really are no such instruments in my country so ebay shops is a fine option. I have an autosearch for EB0/3 basses, and mid to late 60's EB0/3 projects from Gibsondependable pop into my mail quite often. But I don't know how much merchandise they move, this is probably just a small piece of their business.
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I'm not all right with parting out vintage gear, but nothing can be done about it.
The Stratosphere is different. Not vintage parts. As I understand it, it's just a guy, with his wife and maybe an assistant. He buys new dealer overstock and mint recent gear, AFAIK he's not authorized by Fender or Gibson.
I've used the Stratosphere once, bought a Squier Mustang neck for a Bronco project. You just never used to see Fender shortscale necks on eBay. It was worth the purchase IMO.