The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: westen44 on February 13, 2020, 01:20:19 PM
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To me it's obvious why most of these are on there, although maybe one or possibly two have received more criticism than they deserve. Who is to say? It's all subjective. Funny commercial, though, especially after reading the article.
https://loudwire.com/bands-people-made-you-feel-bad-about-loving/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5g9ZJMAo10
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There's not a single band in that list that I even kind of like (with the possible exception of Black Veil Brides who intrigued me for the same reason the New York Dolls - hated by critics at the time, now widely regarded as icons - intrigued me as a teenager), but also not a single one that I really despise. I never got into Limp Bizkit because I don't like rap and heavy metal mixed; I'm fine with both genres on their own (same reason why Body Count never did anything for me). I also find baseball or golf caps extremely unfetching on 99,99 percent of the male world population, especially red ones. But I would have never dared question the Soggy Cookies' or whatever they were called musical ability.
Generally, bands vilified by critics raise my curiosity: I only got into bands such as Grand Funk Railroad, Alice Cooper, Sweet, Slade, The New York Dolls, Kiss, Angel, Starz, Judas Priest, Scorpions, The Doctors of Madness, Be Bop Deluxe, Rush, Black Veil Brides or Nickelback after they got slammed in the press.
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I was pleasantly surprised that I actually recognized ONE cut from the bands mentioned - Creed's "With Eyes Wide Open."
Aside from that, I don't have a clue about any of those bands.
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One of my relatives always liked Creed and I would tell her I didn't like them from time to time. One day a guitarist wanted to know if I would be interested in singing a Creed song. I discovered it was too high for me. It's hard to be a critic when you can't even do as good of a job as the person you've been criticizing. So from that point on I just shut up about Creed.
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Creed were diluted grunge to me - the kind of grunge for a female audience that still likes to hear a melody once they have grown out of boy bands. But it was skillfully done. Very much a US phenomena. At least their chord changes weren't as wince-worthy as some of that Soundgarden stuff that had my toe nails truly curl up. But of course Soundgarden was art while Creed were sell-outs - according to the popular narrative at least.
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My relative who liked Creed was my niece. We have always had a completely different taste in music. That's why it was almost shocking when the other day she said she liked a Steel Woods song I played. That is literally the only time we've liked the same music. No exaggeration. i honestly can't remember it ever happening before.
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Nothing questionable about any of these bands for me. The answer is no.
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I scrolled down too far and ended up looking at the part on Black Sabbath. I was wondering how they could possibly get on a list like that and why I hadn't noticed them the first time. Then I noticed--wrong list. That was the 50 Most Game Changing Hard Rock + Metal albums list.
If both my niece and I like them, I am beginning to wonder what might be going on with the Steel Woods, though. They must have formed some kind of unusual generational bridge.
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Black Sabbath's perception has changed greatly over the decades. Back in the 70ies, they weren't really seen as a band with a musical contribution, more as a one hit wonder (Paranoid) with a mad singer you couldn't take entirely serious. That only changed a little with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (the album), their most orchestral and arranged work (Vol. IV already indicated that direction). Soon after though, Punk happened and Sabbath and their sluggish riffs (no doubt an art, but not valued as one back then) were dubbed dinosaurs. When Ozzy left/was fired (after the Dave Walker intermezzo), they were viewed as a spent force that had seen its ass kicked by an upstart opening act named Van Halen (with a very nimble guitarist who had all digits intact) on the European tour.
Even during the Dio years - musically nothing to be ashamed of -, they were still smiled upon, Ronnie's lyrical sword & sorcery obsession never endeared him to critics. Gillan joining (and I think Born Again is one of the best albums Gillan has sung on outside his Deep Purple canon, I also think that this album and its production - derided at the time, a sonic classic by today's standards - was an unsung trigger for Grunge music as a whole) was viewed as a hilarious move spawned by and in drunken stupor (well, it actually was! :)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrGja48pfAY
After that, with constantly changing line-ups, it was diminishing returns, though not without highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhsptGRnvJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2SrLC3LXqQ
It was only the advent of Grunge - not the LA glam hard rock before which patterned itself more after Led Zep and Aerosmith - that led to a lasting re-appreciation of Sabbath and a reinstatement of theirs into the "holy trinity" of Brit heavy rock that is Led Zep, Purple and the Sabs. I remember my surprise when all these Grungies all of the sudden voiced admiration for Sabbath's music (and not just Ozzy's showmanship) come the 90ies. Before that, mention of Black Sabbath was invariably always tied to some joke on them, even in metal mags. Now, the sheer physical necessity of a handicapped guitarist (and closet Joe Pass fan) to downtune co-led to a new musical movement. Life writes the most amazing stories.
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As a teenager, Hendrix's and Black Sabbath's second albums were among my favorites that I played over and over. No critic would have been able to convince me, for example, that Little Wing, Spanish Castle Magic, War Pigs, Paranoid, Iron Man, etc. were not great songs. Even today I tend to not pay much attention to critics. Rinus Gerritsen, in speaking of Golden Earring's early days, once said they needed another American manager like they needed a hole in the head. The same could be said for critics.
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I'd venture that Sabs renaissance began slightly before grunge, As a DJ in a rock club in the early nineties Faith no More's version of War pigs was a floor filler, which I think led to a lot of kids seeking them out and getting into them
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I think Black Flag were probably the first of the punk/hardcore era to think Sabbath were cool...
I believe that's where they got the idea to start playing the slower sludgier songs. It's been written that Flag's relentless tour stops in the Northwest were the early inspiration for the bands that later became known as "grunge".
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I just now noticed "War Pigs" in part was probably inspired by "If 6 Was 9." As far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing.
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Black Sabbath's perception has changed greatly over the decades. Back in the 70ies, they weren't really seen as a band with a musical contribution, more as a one hit wonder (Paranoid) with a mad singer you couldn't take entirely serious. That only changed a little with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (the album), their most orchestral and arranged work (Vol. IV already indicated that direction). Soon after though, Punk happened and Sabbath and their sluggish riffs (no doubt an art, but not valued as one back then) were dubbed dinosaurs. When Ozzy left/was fired (after the Dave Walker intermezzo), they were viewed as a spent force that had seen its ass kicked by an upstart opening act named Van Halen (with a very nimble guitarist who had all digits intact) on the European tour.
Even during the Dio years - musically nothing to be ashamed of -, they were still smiled upon, Ronnie's lyrical sword & sorcery obsession never endeared him to critics. Gillan joining (and I think Born Again is one of the best albums Gillan has sung on outside his Deep Purple canon, I also think that this album and its production - derided at the time, a sonic classic by today's standards - was an unsung trigger for Grunge music as a whole) was viewed as a hilarious move spawned by and in drunken stupor (well, it actually was! :)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrGja48pfAY
After that, with constantly changing line-ups, it was diminishing returns, though not without highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhsptGRnvJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2SrLC3LXqQ
It was only the advent of Grunge - not the LA glam hard rock before which patterned itself more after Led Zep and Aerosmith - that led to a lasting re-appreciation of Sabbath and a reinstatement of theirs into the "holy trinity" of Brit heavy rock that is Led Zep, Purple and the Sabs. I remember my surprise when all these Grungies all of the sudden voiced admiration for Sabbath's music (and not just Ozzy's showmanship) come the 90ies. Before that, mention of Black Sabbath was invariably always tied to some joke on them, even in metal mags. Now, the sheer physical necessity of a handicapped guitarist (and closet Joe Pass fan) to downtune co-led to a new musical movement. Life writes the most amazing stories.
I liked Born Again, and got to interview Ian Gillan on the tour with them. Bev Bevan was on drums. I always refer to Born Again as one of the most oppressive and brutal albums, soundwise, and that isn't a complaint.
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It is, but it went totally underneath the radar as everyone focused on "the three Sabbath guys who can't get over losing Ozzy have now hired DP has-been Ian Gillan and he doesn't even wear black or leather, now how pathetic is that?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhsptGRnvJw
I've always liked the Seventh Star album. Wasn't that supposed to be a Tony Iommi solo album, but the record company decided to put it out under the Black Sabbath name?
By the way; Glenn Hughes looks like Robert Palmer with a (huge) mullet in that video 8)
Love the Eternal Idol album too. Even if Tony Martin copied every single syllable from Ray Gillen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfwTWBjraV4
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New Tony Iommi interview from Gibson TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN2FYIhGwaA
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"I've always liked the Seventh Star album. Wasn't that supposed to be a Tony Iommi solo album, but the record company decided to put it out under the Black Sabbath name?"
It was. Same thing with Born Again: Neither the Sabs nor Gillan wanted it out under the Black Sabbath moniker for fear of critics and fan backlash (with all the baggage attached to Black Sabbath), but management - keen to fill the halls for a US tour - and record company were adamant. That said, if they had gone out as Butler, Gillan, Iommi & Ward, people would have still nicknamed them "Deep Sabbath" or "Black Purple". ;D
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Jazz and Black Sabbath.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/black-sabbath-jazz-swing-influence-bill-ward-948231/
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Bill Ward was never a woodchopper, he wasn't even a heavy metal drummer, he had loads of swing and I always thought that contrasted nicely with Iommi's and Butler's molten lava groove. All drummers that followed Ward in Black Sabbath lacked that quality. He was to Sabbath what Peter Criss was to Kiss.
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Bill Ward was never a woodchopper, he wasn't even a heavy metal drummer, he had loads of swing and I always thought that contrasted nicely with Iommi's and Butler's molten lava groove. All drummers that followed Ward in Black Sabbath lacked that quality. He was to Sabbath what Peter Criss was to Kiss.
I'm wondering if "If 6 was 9" really inspired "War Pigs" as I had been led to believe from this video (13:20--13:48) or if it's just because Mitch Mitchell and Bill Ward both had a jazz background. Or maybe it's just a coincidence. I'm thinking it was probably just coincidental the more I think about it. Overall, the songs don't seem very much alike to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuc0V_FRGNE&t=832s
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If you ask me, then Bonham's drumming with Led Zep became more of a blueprint for hard rock and heavy metal than anything Bill Ward or for that matter Ian Paice (just two heavy rock drummers I prefer to Bonham) ever did. From a certain point onward, swing went out of fashion with harder music. I sometimes think that a lot of hard rock drummers today sound like only John Bonham and Phil Rudd ever existed as role models.
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Another rock drummer that has a great swing in his playing is Brian Downey of Thin Lizzy.
I prefer him over Ward or Paice (and Bonham or Rudd) actually.
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Mitchell, Ward, Paice, Bonham, and yes, Criss all had that cool, old school swing. There weren't really any "rock" drummers to use as role models when those guys were coming up, so they looked to jazz guys. Amps got bigger and louder, and drummers started hitting harder. BOOM!
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Another rock drummer that has a great swing in his playing is Brian Downey of Thin Lizzy.
I prefer him over Ward or Paice (and Bonham or Rudd) actually.
The Holländer is waving his Lizzy flag again! Downey had a fluent groove, but he was a bit lazy on the bass drum - or let's put it this way: Lizzy's music didn't require him to play more. I like some intricacy in bass drum work - sort of what Simon Phillips does/did, yet in my ears he is still firmly rock. That seems to be a dying art these days too, it's either boom-buff simplistic or machine gun sixteenths on a double bass drum. You hardly ever hear someone play a rhythmic bass drum figure on a double bass drum using both of them left-right-left-right.
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I'll just leave this here 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPY3_zVi0J8
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When did Lon Chaney jr join Lizzy?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/d1f3b6d691522a941a2d6c873895b224/tumblr_onhmh2HG8K1s01qkyo1_400.gifv)
With all due respect for Downey (whose work deserved better representation than this particular vid), but that is exactly the mindless, unimaginative double bass drum playing I do not like. Cozy Powell played like that too (but was more heavy-handed than Downey), I meant something like this here, the bass drum just by itself is music, hear what a young Simon Phillips does at 2.17:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQVp-5uFEY&list=PLPf69IGxwfBGazHlXxbLx6nPdjpRI22Qh&index=6
Or like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4zJ5MU8hE
Or - with a Thin Lizzy connection as I'm sure you are aware - this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdaqfM7BnA
It doesn't have to be hugely technical or complex, I'm also fine with "simpler, but a little unorthodox":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsdUzN20Sow
You don't hear that type of bass drum drumming anymore (in rock at least), and I deplore that. I always end up asking our drummers to be "a bit more active" and "less lazy" in their bass drum work and they look at me open-eyed. :mrgreen: I blame Bonham and Rudd for that. Ginger Baker lost the battle. :rimshot:
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:bored:
Just to bore Uwe some more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5Tyey24KY
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:bored:
Just to bore Uwe some more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5Tyey24KY
One of my favorite Thin Lizzy songs. My first band covered this. Concrete Blond also covered it.
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Not bored at all, lieber Rob, live vids of Thin Lizzy are always of revelatory nature to me, intriguingly so: often rough-sounding and sloppy, Lynott singing flat, as you would imagine a bunch of wasted and jaded drug addicts playing. And remember: I saw their last - shambolic - gig in Nürnberg as an audience member. Worst performance of professional recording and performing artists I ever witnessed. :popcorn:
Too bad when Tony Visconti isn't around to clean up and rerecord your live act.
But to give Herr Downey, often the saving grace of this particular band whose performances would flutter like a wounded bird, credit where credit is due: His bass drum work on It's Only Money is more like it - much more creative than on that other track.
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Yeah, that last tour was pretty bad. Their performance in Japan was catastrophic because they hadn't been able to find heroin for Phil. He was experiencing cold turkey on stage...
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The management should have never allowed them to go out like that. A band of a different stature with a professional management would have been taken off the road for a year or two and sent into forced rehab. John Sykes, being the excited little puppy peeing on the rug he was, played a role too, he absolutely wanted that last tour to further his own career. It did get him the Whitesnake job eventually.
Scott Gorham said in an interview a few years back that he was in pain every night on that final tour - and looking across the stage at Lynott who was even worse off. The fresh-faced John Sykes continuously striking rock star poses (and playing his solos out of time most of the time) and the other two weary, downtrodden battle horses made for a real weird impression on stage.
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:bored:
Just to bore Uwe some more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5Tyey24KY
Love this music and the clothes they're wearing, men's fashion used to be so cool, it was okay to show a bit of yourself and your shape - nowadays men hide in ugly, baggy, utilitarian crap.
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Ah, from questionable bands to questionable bass drum work to questionable wardrobe - it only happens here!
Flare it up!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/87/66/42876668463ff9b716069f8a28ad3afb.jpg)
There is actually a fashion story behind this 1975 promo shoot of the Mk IV line up and it has to do with shooze, Glenn's shooze to be exact. At that time, Hughes had for several weeks David Bowie as a guest in his rented LA mansion - Bowie in full post-Ziggy-Stardust Thin White Duke mode and living on a diet of cocaine and milk. One day Glenn was donning his platforms and Bowie goes: "Uggh, those have really gone out of style." Who was Glenn, the Birmingham boy, to argue with David Bowie?! Off the shooze go in exchange for flat sneakers ...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/0d/67/000d670b6d4fc6803926c4b7dd34a88c.jpg)
At the promo shoot, all other DP member wore their beloved platforms and Glenn, who was actually quite tall among the Purps,
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/a6/9d/7ca69d526f3a3fa936b12fa139b7578f.jpg)
worried he might "look like a midget",
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sAapu3QicbY/V7GxqkaccZI/AAAAAAAABqE/_VIrzytUB7gdOvQ0GJD1YUTmUCww0t4OACLcB/s1600/deep%2Bpurple%2B2.jpg)
(he's not much taller here than Ian Paice who is tiny)
hence the final, most widespread picture from that promo shoot of him sitting down. :mrgreen:
(http://www.deep-purple.net/tree/mk4.jpg)
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Alas!, how looks can be deceiving. For years a German women's libber magazine called Emma had an album recommendation list called "Musik von Frauen für Frauen" (music by women for women). Guess who was featured there? :mrgreen:
(https://img.discogs.com/AIFV7byYR1V1qsh4UzRNvlX3rPc=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4810038-1475708856-1081.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z8qO5YP8yU
Tommy wouldn't have minded. By today's standards, he was at least metrosexual bordering on gender fluid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdeb9gTgB_g
His effeminate prancing on stage was probably one reason why Blackmore fans did not take too kindly to him. And looking at Glenn's and Tommy's obvious infatuation with each other, I'm surprised they didn't marry on stage! ;D
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When did Lon Chaney jr join Lizzy?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/d1f3b6d691522a941a2d6c873895b224/tumblr_onhmh2HG8K1s01qkyo1_400.gifv)
With all due respect for Downey (whose work deserved better representation than this particular vid), but that is exactly the mindless, unimaginative double bass drum playing I do not like. Cozy Powell played like that too (but was more heavy-handed than Downey), I meant something like this here, the bass drum just by itself is music, hear what a young Simon Phillips does at 2.17:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQVp-5uFEY&list=PLPf69IGxwfBGazHlXxbLx6nPdjpRI22Qh&index=6
Or like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4zJ5MU8hE
Or - with a Thin Lizzy connection as I'm sure you are aware - this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdaqfM7BnA
It doesn't have to be hugely technical or complex, I'm also fine with "simpler, but a little unorthodox":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsdUzN20Sow
You don't hear that type of bass drum drumming anymore (in rock at least), and I deplore that. I always end up asking our drummers to be "a bit more active" and "less lazy" in their bass drum work and they look at me open-eyed. :mrgreen: I blame Bonham and Rudd for that. Ginger Baker lost the battle. :rimshot:
Oh c'mon. Where is Ian Paice's bass drum work any better suiting the song in Lazy (I really like Paicey BTW) than Brian Downey's in let's say "Emerald" or for that matter "The Boys Are Back In Town"? I don't get it. Ok Brian Downey never played the kick like Simon Phillips in "Call For The Priest/Raw Deal" but neither did Ian Paice in "Lazy". I kind of get what you're aiming at though referring to Ginger Baker.
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Some more beautiful music by Thin Lizzy, with the magnificent Brian Downey on drums of course.
https://youtu.be/rENy7MQIYJs
https://youtu.be/oVEy4qhxIyw
https://youtu.be/wTyAhMIeIEw
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"Ok, Brian Downey never played the kick like Simon Phillips in "Call For The Priest/Raw Deal" but neither did Ian Paice in "Lazy". I kind of get what you're aiming at though referring to Ginger Baker."
I hear Simon Phillips as a bit "If Ian Paice had gone to music school ...", there are similarities in the foundation of their playing though Simon is no doubt more technically proficient and adventurous (but Paice was adventurous in a heavy rock context), though his best work was probably heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQblOYsBLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRkEg1wCGGc
The fact that Roger Glover took an immense liking to Simon's style (in a comparatively short time he appeared on four Glover-produced albums: Sin after Sin, Whitesnake (Coverdale debut), MSG's debut and Glover's own Elements) seems to indicate that Roger - always in awe of Paice's playing - thought so too, I believe he heard something familiar.
I like it if the bass drum is sometimes used as the "lead instrument" within the "orchestra of drums" as opposed to just serving as the foundation of the snare, cymbal and tom work, i.e. "when it leaves the format", does that explain it better? Same reason I like format-leaving bass playing too, I think it's refreshing. Too much convention drives me mad.
But for all you valiantly coming to the rescue of Thin Lizzy, it's not like I don't take anything away from our discussions here, I just ordered end of last week the Bad Reputation remaster plus the remastered Phil Lynott solo albums, so I am indeed contributing to his estate (or his mum's estate). And I buy all the Black Star Riders stuff, so ole Scotty gets a share too even though I thought his - truly magnificent - hair always more noteworthy than his guitar playing. The man single-handedly myriad-follicly invented straightened hair decades before it became de rigueur. ;)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/203e0a9a6af313927fe1cba0a8f12511/67e547586293a537-1d/s400x600/6157df63231c5610950cd54cb5e4f3a41a91e621.gifv)
I will now proceed to listen to Bad Reputation, it's been a while since I last heard the full album, 40 years perhaps? All because of you.
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Some more beautiful music by Thin Lizzy, with the magnificent Brian Downey on drums of course.
https://youtu.be/oVEy4qhxIyw
I know that Snowy White will forever be regarded as "the square peg that didn't fit a round hole" among Dutch and Scandinavian Lizzomaniacs, but I think his playing (and stage demeanor) here is ultra-cool. Impresses me more than anything I've heard from Robertson, Moore or Sykes in a Lizzy context. There is something terse and succinct in his playing. I like his solo career work too.
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I know that Snowy White will forever be regarded as "the square peg that didn't fit a round hole" among Dutch and Scandinavian Lizzomaniacs, but I think his playing (and stage demeanor) here is ultra-cool. Impresses me more than anything I've heard from Robertson, Moore or Sykes in a Lizzy context. There is something terse and succinct in his playing. I like his solo career work too.
I like Snowy White (and the album Chinatown) a lot. Both his and Gary Moore's stints in Thin Lizzy spiced up the guitarplaying. Robbo and Scott was more like siamese twin guitars, with essentially the same approach and style (which by all means had its benefits as well).
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Ah, from questionable bands to questionable bass drum work to questionable wardrobe - it only happens here!
Flare it up!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/87/66/42876668463ff9b716069f8a28ad3afb.jpg)
There is actually a fashion story behind this 1975 promo shoot of the Mk IV line up and it has to do with shooze, Glenn's shooze to be exact. At that time, Hughes had for several weeks David Bowie as a guest in his rented LA mansion - Bowie in full post-Ziggy-Stardust Thin White Duke mode and living on a diet of cocaine and milk. One day Glenn was donning his platforms and Bowie goes: "Uggh, those have really gone out of style." Who was Glenn, the Birmingham boy, to argue with David Bowie?! Off the shooze go in exchange for flat sneakers ...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/0d/67/000d670b6d4fc6803926c4b7dd34a88c.jpg)
At the promo shoot, all other DP member wore their beloved platforms and Glenn, who was actually quite tall among the Purps,
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/a6/9d/7ca69d526f3a3fa936b12fa139b7578f.jpg)
worried he might "look like a midget",
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sAapu3QicbY/V7GxqkaccZI/AAAAAAAABqE/_VIrzytUB7gdOvQ0GJD1YUTmUCww0t4OACLcB/s1600/deep%2Bpurple%2B2.jpg)
(he's not much taller here than Ian Paice who is tiny)
hence the final, most widespread picture from that promo shoot of him sitting down. :mrgreen:
(http://www.deep-purple.net/tree/mk4.jpg)
All better than 99% of what I see guys wearing around here. ;D I'm surrounded by soulless, lame ass Tech Bros.......Yechhh!
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Well, what do you expect when you go into something like lighting, male fashion sense? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Well, what do you expect when you go into something like lighting, male fashion sense? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Well, some of us involved with that specific business do have a bit of fashion sense - I don't know how it is in other cities but Seattle is casual to the point of almost slovenly, filled with unimaginative Tech Bros that can't dress themselves........At least a lot of the women still dress nice.
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I like Snowy White (and the album Chinatown) a lot. Both his and Gary Moore's stints in Thin Lizzy spiced up the guitarplaying. Robbo and Scott was more like siamese twin guitars, with essentially the same approach and style (which by all means had its benefits as well).
I'm a snowy white fan too, I didn't know he had a stint in Thin Lizzy.I knew him as the touring second guitar for Pink Floyd back in the day.
I had the 7" of Bird of Paradise as a teenager that got played a lot.
I had a pleasant surprise when i saw Roger Waters doing the Whole of Dark side at Glastonbury and Snowy was doing all Dave Gilmour's vocal parts as well as his guitar parts. I didn't really know what he looked like , I just had thought that they had got a great singer/guitarist to do those parts, then at the end when Roger Waters introduced the band it was an "Oh that makes sense " moment
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That's when I saw him first, when the Floyd toured Wish You Were Here/Animals back in the day - 1978? And then more than four decades later when Roger Waters did his The Wall extravaganza (there were one or two Waters gigs in between where I might have seen him too, but he wasn't always in the backing band). My wife and her daughter dragged me to The Wall, admittedly, I'm not such a huge fan of that particular album. I explored his solo work only quite recently, liked what I heard.
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I don't know how it is in other cities but Seattle is casual to the point of almost slovenly, filled with unimaginative Tech Bros that can't dress themselves........At least a lot of the women still dress nice.
Funny, that was the second time in one day I saw the term "Tech Bros."
Last night at my wife's birthday dinner I looked at my oldest daughter's significant other (age 36, involved in the IT/Tech industry) and it hit me that he and I were dressed nearly identically. Sneaks, jeans (I dressed up in cords for the dinner) sweater over T-shirt. (I had a much nicer sweater.)
I think I'm a Tech Bro. Considering my career working with classroom technology and design over the past decade, I suppose that works.