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Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: nofi on November 10, 2009, 07:59:08 AM
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Casady that is. his stature as a great bassist eludeds me. i heard all the records, saw electric hot tuna live, plus various television and you tube clips. i can't see all this talent but i'm sure someone can 'splain it to me. ???
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Here is an excerpt from an interview with Anthony Jackson who sites Jack as an influence.
Perhaps more of a surprise to some will be Jackson’s influence from Jack Casady.
“Casady, whom I'd first heard on Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album in late 1966, had a big, rich, metallic sound with a full bottom and a curious, guitaristic way of playing that I was immediately drawn to. When I saw him perform live, I was struck by his dignity and serious mien.”
says Jackson in a 1990 interview in Bass Player magazine. (Note that this quote hints Jackson's fascination with the playing of the bass in relation to the guitar - see below.) Casady played with a pick, which Jackson has also always had at least an ability for.
“It was Casady's sound that kept me exploring the expressive possibilities of using the pick. To this day, when I use one and a flanger, Casady's influence emerges and can be clearly detected by an aficionado.”
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He's a very tasteful player in all his busy-ness, more organic than Entwistle whose bass playing is more an assortments of riffs and quick runs than a flowing foundation and more accessible than Bruce whose choice of notes and rhythmic peculiarities is an acquired taste. I guess Jack Casady is the Eric Clapton of bass playing, you either like his fluid choice of notes or you find him boring!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBks7V3SzJo&videos=tmedjvRhso8&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1
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Our band practiced last night and I played my Jackbass. When watching the clip, I am struck by how the Epi Casady bass captures the sound I hear in that clip. I love it!
But know what? The guys want me to bring my (definitely not purple, Midnight blue) 2000 MIM Jazz to the next practice - they say they think it fits surf music better. That's cool - I have enough basses to rotate them.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/P8270406.jpg)
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Sometimes I just want a groove...feel that way about Phil Lesh too.
I'm a simple man.
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That bass is purple, no two ways about it. :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay: :gay:
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It'll only sting if you say it's a "Husky" bass ;)
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Did someone mention purple basses?
(http://deayton.com/guitars/purple.jpg)
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I don't care how it may be viewed, Uwe, or whether or not she's blue or she's purple...
Al... I may be in love with your Jazz... 8)
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It'll only sting if you say it's a "Husky" bass ;)
AAAUUUGHHHHHH!!! That would result in its quick sale. Don' wanna go there.
My band-mates and I have decided that we shall refer to it as "Indigo".
Works for me.
..........................but back to something vaguely related to the original topic, I really like the sound of that Casady bass. Sounds different than anything else I own. I have pretty much settled on the 500 setting for the "varitone" switch as it gives the fullest sound.
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Indigo, Indigo, where for art though Indigo...? :mrgreen: (no blue smileys)
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Hello, my name is Indigo Montoya. You stole my father's bass. Prepare to die.
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Mark, there you go again, posting pictures from Treena's backyard. ;)
Did someone mention purple basses?
(http://deayton.com/guitars/purple.jpg)
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What a bunch of faggots you all are!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/P1020542.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2194.jpg)
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It'll only sting if you say it's a "Husky" bass ;)
Enlighten me, native speaker, what hidden meaning lies behind "husky" in this sentence? I only know husky dogs and husky voices ("Lalalala-Lola"), but I sense some other connotation here ...
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Enlighten me, native speaker, what hidden meaning lies behind "husky" in this sentence? I only know husky dogs and husky voices ("Lalalala-Lola"), but I sense some other connotation here ...
The dark side: http://www.washington.edu/ (The Huskies, aka: the dawgz. Colors: tacky purple and gold.)
The Force: http://www.wsu.edu/ (The Cougars, aka: the Cougs. Colors: tasteful Crimson and Grey)
My avatar can be found on one of these web pages. I cannot, nor will I ever, own a purple bass. Thank you, Fender, for naming the color of my bass Midnight Blue.
But - back to the original topic - Casady's bass playing doesn't always send me, but that's because of the style of music he plays. My taste runs more to rock than the more lyrical style he often gets into. But he darn sure designed a nice bass!
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... and a very nice shade of blue too...
Nice purple "Vogel" Uwe... ;D
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Here is an excerpt from an interview with Anthony Jackson who sites Jack as an influence.
Perhaps more of a surprise to some will be Jackson’s influence from Jack Casady.
“Casady, whom I'd first heard on Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album in late 1966, had a big, rich, metallic sound with a full bottom and a curious, guitaristic way of playing that I was immediately drawn to.[...]"
Here's some of that "guitaristic" Casady playing (~2:00):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ0onxQIY_w
I like his playing well enough, but I can relate to nofi's post. There are just some groups that I never fully warmed up to, and Jefferson Airplane was one of them. Casady is cool and he has his own unique thing, but most of their music just hasn't grabbed me yet. I still listen from time to time, just to see if my tastes might have changed, or if something new catches my ear. There have been other bands that have eventually clicked for me this way.
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But he darn sure designed a nice bass!
which bass do you mean?
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Ok, "designing" is perhaps an overstatement of how JC turned the LP Sig into his own signature model. He changed the pup (not for the better though in my opinion) and the pup position slightly and the neck board is set a little higher giving you more range with the three point. At the time the Epi JC came out (and LP Sigs had long been forgotten), Jack certainly acted as if he had invented that bass from scratch, long thoughtful interviews and all.
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I like his playing well enough, but I can relate to nofi's post. There are just some groups that I never fully warmed up to, and Jefferson Airplane was one of them. Casady is cool and he has his own unique thing, but most of their music just hasn't grabbed me yet. I still listen from time to time, just to see if my tastes might have changed, or if something new catches my ear. There have been other bands that have eventually clicked for me this way.
I can relate to this too. One dreadful Jefferson Airplane concert in 1970 was enough for me. We had come to see the opening act and decided to stay. Bad move.
Listened to a couple of Hot Tuna cuts once. Nope. Not my kind of music.
He has respect among Airplane and Hot Tuna fans. I expect that he's earned it. I'll take their word for it.
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I never really understood the Jack Cassidy thing either. He did some OK stuff, but nothing to jump up and down about.
Rick
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I liked Hot Tuna, but find their music (& Airplane's) to be kind of neither here nor there, much like the Greatful Dead & Phish, not that That Hot Tunu or Jefferson airplane were jam bands. They shared that low key noodly grass roots / rock vibe.
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I wonder if Airplane would have been a better band with a more solid bass player. They had some good songs, but the performance always seems to be on the edge of falling apart, like they really desperately needed someone to hold them together.
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I have never been a big fan of the Airplane/Starship - their music just wasn't to my taste. And I can REALLY say the same about the Grateful Dead.
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I really like both groups. I was into Jefferson Starship back in the mid 70's when Red Octopus came out. I love Pete Sears' bass playing. David Frieberg is also good too and it is very easy to tell each player apart. Surrealistic Pillow is a great record. I have the remaster CD. I'm really into mainly mid 1960's to mid 1970's music. I have well over 2000 LP's and am constantly buying more. It's worse GAS than buying bass guitars!
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After Bathing at Baxters starts with this song. The bass just grabs me. Jack was a huge influence on me. I think I bought this album three times.
http://www.youtube.com/v/d1RgUO5E9fw&hl=en_US&fs=1&
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I wonder if Airplane would have been a better band with a more solid bass player. They had some good songs, but the performance always seems to be on the edge of falling apart, like they really desperately needed someone to hold them together.
That is an excellent observation and I couldn't agree more. He always seemed to be filling in the cracks rather than laying the foundation.
Rick
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The brilliance of Jorma's guitar playing has always impressed me.
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Robert... I weaned myself off the "vinyl" GAS back in the 80's
Over 5000 items...
Sold most of it off over the years...
Now weaning myself off CD GAS...
MP3's are easier to hide... ;)
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i still collect records i have about 2000 12" & 3000 7"
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I sold off my collection back in 1989 - 90. CD's were easier to carry around when you moved. I am now back up to around 2k. All types of stuff too. Wish I had some of the stuff I had before I sold them the first go around........
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I retired and sold everything a while back. Just started playing again 7 or 8 years ago.
The local library was a huge asset in getting stuff back. I burn stuff down to disk on my computer. Without this asset, I never could have got back up to speed playing bass again. Never.
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I've always loved his early sound, especially with the Jefferson Airplane, Songs like Crown of Creation or most of After bathing at Baxters.
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I've always loved his early sound, especially with the Jefferson Airplane, Songs like Crown of Creation or most of After bathing at Baxters.
yes mee too i like that grind and the odd spot of fuzz box didnt hurt either.
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This band set out to be the English Jefferson Airplane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHgr19CaRk
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After Bathing at Baxters starts with this song. The bass just grabs me. Jack was a huge influence on me. I think I bought this album three times.
http://www.youtube.com/v/d1RgUO5E9fw&hl=en_US&fs=1&
Yup I bought it several times myself still have a vinyl copy. I thought Jack was a pretty solid player, very adventurous yes, but he knew how to hit the root notes when they needed to be played. His TONE though was what hooked me, he is in my all time top ten bassists list along with Tim Bogart, Jack Bruce, Felix Papparlardi, and of course James Jamerson. Many others escape me but Jack is right on top in my book.
Ever hear Voodoo Child (Slight Return) on Electric Lady Land? That too is Casady, he could play in the groove when it was warranted.
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What a bunch of faggots you all are!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/P1020542.jpg)
I love the Kollekshun of Icemen in the background 8)
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I've got even more of them now! The original models
ICB 300 (bolt on) and
ICB 500 (set neck),
the first reissue of a couple of years ago, ICB 200 (mini buckers),
the newish active one, ICB 300EX ,
the ltd. edt. chequered "Rick Nielsen" look one (which with its alder body sounds quite different to the others with the maho bodies) and the
Sharlee D'Angelo neck-thru signature model.
I've got a crush on Icemans!
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Ice, Ice, Baby...
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I've got a crush on Icemans!
Dhow!