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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 13, 2015, 02:28:04 AM »
You might best try a sneak in through Edinburgh in the slingbacks (no one will notice a purple haired tranny during the "Festival" season as there'd be so many of them already there)...

The last thing I need is competition!  :rolleyes:

I recently saw an Urbexer's report on the underground bunkers at Brooklands. I've no idea how he got in, but there is quite a labyrinth hidden away in there.

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Fender Basses / Re: Fender Slabs, and what made them tick.
« on: August 13, 2015, 02:25:59 AM »
I read in the interview John assembled the bass himself, soldering iron in hand. I have no idea if this is correct. So I wonder was one pickup from the carcase basses just a bit hotter? Or maybe a capacitor of a different value? Maybe it was a odd pairing of potentiometers?

John Kallas told me that the Slab circuitry was bone stock, as per regular P basses. He got to explore an original one. Likewise the one I've seen dissected online had normal Precision circuitry, though two different coloured bobbins were used on the pickups; a real mutt.

My unproven theory was that Jazzmaster 1 M ohm pots were used, because the original request had been made for a 'Telecaster bass' from Fender, and the first run of slabs was a response to that. 1 M pots would be brighter, and more Tele-like, and were a standard Fender component in 1966, though I have no evidence to back this up and evidence that refutes this idea! The classic Leeds tone doesn't have any perceptible treble roll-off, so surely the cap would be less of an issue?

Gareth, who is behind the Slab 66 basses, builds them with a hotter pickup apparently. I've quizzed him and he doesn't do anything else deliberately to get slab tone. Conversely I've got a pretty good Slab tone out of a Yamaha BB bass with low action, fresh rounds and a tube amp emulation.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: alvin lee, double neck bass.
« on: August 12, 2015, 08:52:55 AM »
There is some info in and around here...

http://www.flyguitars.com/interviews/mickhawksworth4.php


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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 12, 2015, 07:54:02 AM »
Hands where I can see them!  :P

As I mentioned in another thread, I had a chance to buy a white Epi T-bird that Martin Turner turned down, here in Edinburgh. I was told he had bought the other one, though I've yet to see him rock anything other than the original white Overend one or the Orville sunburst one.

I turned the Epiphone down too.  8) Somebody bought it though as it wasn't in stock last time I looked. I enthusiastically agreed to attend a band practice on Monday (wozzat?) and realise I don't have a case for my new T-bird. I've panic-bought a 'Rok Sak' for it. Here goes nothing.  :sad:

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 12, 2015, 07:30:08 AM »
I have a project lined up for the black hardware I remove from the Tokai.

In short, I have a pair of Schaller JBX pickups and a much abused Cort GB24 bass. I've coated the fretboard with CA and buffed to a high gloss, not unlike the neck of a Rickenbacker. I plan to install the pickups in the Rickenbacker positions, add a bass-cut cap to the bridge pickup and get a custom pickguard made up that is 80% of the Cort original and 20% Rickenbacker 4005 (down by the controls). The bass will get the black tuners and bridge off of the Tokai.

I've broken the back of this project but I need to get the neck up and running first.

As for the Tokai, it seems everybody overlooks just how versatile a T-bird is. Yes, you can slam them with a pick and it comes out sounding good. However, fingerstyle on the bridge pickup sounds like any number of modern Jazz bass tones. Turn down the tone on the neck pickup and you have a nice dubby/Motown sound.  8)

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 11, 2015, 01:57:29 PM »
What's that...?

I found the picture on Flickr, and the photographer claimed they were TSR2 formers. I don't know what formers should look like, so I cannot comment.


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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 11, 2015, 01:23:38 PM »
How.... mysterious.  8)

In the mean time, here's Dee Dee!!




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It is now yesterday's tomorrow, God of Thunder!  :mrgreen:

I've got the bass in front of me now, and I've replaced the pickguard screws and machine heads with chrome variants. It already looks happier. These basses come with highmass Badass-style bridges, again in black. I've had a 3-pointer on an Epi EB-0 bass, and if I had to pick a favorite from either the 3-pointer or the BBOT, I think I would get kicked off this forum, have to think about it for a while...


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Fender Basses / Re: Fender Slabs, and what made them tick.
« on: August 11, 2015, 01:13:14 PM »
As for the wiring on JE's No1 Slab, the Three knob, he had each coil
Of the pickup wired seperately to Different Outputs to run two Amps. 
He was very unhappy with that and tried several times to have it rewired
to stock wiring but it die Not work.  I guess that this was the reason aswell
why the Bass Sounded crap.  After the Different tries to rewire it
he bought another Slab which led to Frankenstein. 
I will have a Chance to Play the Three knob ex JE Slab very soon....

Hi Oliver,

I'm sure I was informed at one point that the 3-knob slab had some sort of primitive active circuitry installed, and was then converted to stereo. Something like a boost or something? Not sure where I read that so ignore/avoid if necessary!

John was such a busy player that I'm not sure the stereo trick would have served him well. The other issue is that the tone control would have had to have been allocated to one side of the stereo circuit. The uneven tone of sending the D-G strings to a bright amp and the E-A strings to a bassy amp would probably not work with John's long runs and cross-string leaps. if the roadie also buggered up the grounding in the circuitry then you would have had all sorts of problems.

I've converted a few basses to work in stereo off of twin 1/4'' jacks before today. A lot of work and a lot of faff, though you do get a nice tone with the two pickups working separately and not loading each other.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 11, 2015, 12:05:59 PM »
I joined the TSR2 page on FB. Seems like they enjoy a rumour as well.  8)

I'm slowly replacing the black tuners with chrome ones on my Tokai T-bird. It already looks better!

I guess Dee Dee Ramone never used a T-bird?

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 11, 2015, 04:43:10 AM »
Isn't that a Ramones album?  :mrgreen:

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 11, 2015, 03:02:36 AM »
Hello Highlander!


These are supposedly the TSR2 formers, as recovered at Brooklands. Another piece of the TSR2 puzzle that was officially lost but then skulked back out into the open.



I was under the impression that XR222 was the best of a bad bunch. Visually it is most complete but there is still avionics missing and many cut wires.

As to the famous Foulness image of XR219...



Supposedly a similar quantity or XR219 was removed from Foulness in the late '70s or so, and was disposed of by the much loved Hanningfield Metals. A collector discovered the front fuselage under a tarp and somehow saved it. Given the politics behind TSR2, the nasty chemicals tested on the aircraft on Foulness (radioactive or furiously corrosive) and the fact that Hanningfield had a contract to honour, I find it hard to believe that they would let stuff slip out the back gate. Given the size of the Brooklands cockpit trainer it would be some job to smuggle that sort of thing around.

Wing sections of XR219 did survive into the early '90s and were supposedly saved by the late John Hallett, whose Sea Vixen resides at Solent Sky. The wing sections were subjected to chemical testing, so the Hallett story might also be a myth. I've seen an aerial image of the Foulness ranges from the early '90s, and large panels in anti-flash white are visible, alongside Vulcan parts. From the ground;



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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 10, 2015, 03:01:16 PM »
I'm going to have to go with the Hostess with the Mostest and go with the Shackleton. Eventually....  8)

Had a spin on the Tokai T-bird. The thing is massive. I'd forgotten just how big these things are.  :o It is far longer than any of my other basses, which creates some issues with storage and transportation. None of my stands like it either.  :rolleyes:

The pickguard is bleach white, almost blue against the cream paintwork. I'm going to get it out in the sunshine over the next few weeks where possible, just to give it some colour.

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Fender Basses / Re: Fender Slabs, and what made them tick.
« on: August 10, 2015, 05:25:18 AM »
I agree about the Isle of Wight film, the bass sound on that one is crap, and I've heard the same thing where John's treble gets audible whenever Roger is near the amp. It's a really comical audio effect on the bass sound when he twirls the mic.

Cheaper than a Leslie. Great to hear Moon's cymbals flying past as well.

Swish swish swish.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 10, 2015, 04:45:40 AM »
My cream Tokai T-bird has arrived, and I get to play it this evening! I'm thinking of having a custom pickguard made up, with the bird image replaced with either a top-down plan of an Avro Shackleton or a front-on plan view of a TSR-2.

Any other suggestions? Aircraft that fit the relative outline of the bird on the pickguard. All welcome.

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