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Title: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 19, 2010, 08:17:33 PM
And Chinese to boot!

(http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/img/cars/news/metropolis1.jpg)

http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1042320 (http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1042320)
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: the mojo hobo on April 20, 2010, 04:27:42 AM
So where is the picture of the one that's not ugly?
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Barklessdog on April 20, 2010, 04:35:44 AM
Cool!
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Chris P. on April 20, 2010, 06:28:17 AM
The glory times of the DS, CX, SM and so won't and can't return, but I think Citroen makes some nice cars nowadays.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: rahock on April 20, 2010, 07:26:11 AM
I went to a huge Citreon car show outdoors in New York a few years ago and if you think the cars are strange, you should have seen the crowd they drew :o
However, if you've ever had a chance to drive one they are pretty impressive. They are the smoothest and most adaptable thing on the road.
Rick
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: uwe on April 20, 2010, 09:04:49 AM
I credit Citroen with doing something different now and then, where so many cars look samey and reach new heights (or depths) of sameyness every consecutive year.

Are the engines still as impossible to reach for repairs as they used to be?
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: rahock on April 20, 2010, 09:31:05 AM
They are strange when you get under the hood :o. I'm a car guy and getting under the hood of one of those things is about as familiar as a flying saucer to me :P. All the hydraulic hoses and the general layout of everything is just way different from anything else out there ???
Rick
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
First good looking Citroen model and it probably won't make it to the US market.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: chromium on April 20, 2010, 12:35:34 PM
They are strange when you get under the hood :o. I'm a car guy and getting under the hood of one of those things is about as familiar as a flying saucer to me :P. All the hydraulic hoses and the general layout of everything is just way different from anything else out there ???
Rick

I had a '66 ID19 project car back in the late 90s.  This was the first (and last) car that I painted, and I did a lot of the mechanical restoration too - electrical, brakes (inboard disc in front), and most of the hydraulic components.  It is indeed a strange beast, and let me tell you nothing spells fun like accidentally undoing a hydraulic line that you thought was without pressure!  Soaked my entire personage and a good portion of the garage in hydraulic fluid.  Good times.  On a more positive note, my skin was soft and supple for days afterward!  ;D

I sold it when we last moved,  and never did get any good photos of it.  Here are some pics from the rehab:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/image15.jpg)

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/image11.jpg)


All I can say is I'm glad I got back into music as a hobby   :o
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Chris P. on April 21, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
Citroens are again good looking, but technically not that strange. The smaller cars have a lot of parts in common with other brands and their smallest is also sold as Toyota and Peugeot, if I am correct (I used to work in car business, but I'm not so into it anymore).

The bigger ones also share a lot of features with sister brand Peugeot. So technically Citroens are very normal, except for the hydraulic suspension on the more expensive models.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: uwe on April 22, 2010, 03:39:24 AM
And the fact that as late as the eighties/early nineties it was impossible to reach the spark plugs in their premium models unless you lifted the engine!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I know a lot of fervent Citroen owners, not one of them has ever laid claim that their babies are service-friendly (or reliable).

Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Chris P. on April 22, 2010, 04:09:40 AM
:) I guess a Citroen is a bit like a Gibson? You want to love 'm, but they make it very difficult to do:)
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: lowend1 on April 22, 2010, 04:21:53 AM
:) I guess a Citroen is a bit like a Gibson? You want to love 'm, but they make it very difficult to do:)

Most Gibsons aren't so spectacularly and consistently UGLY.

What in God's name ever made you choose a Citroen as a project car? Temporary insanity? Sado-masochistic tendencies? Penance?
It might be the only case where a trip to the crusher is considered a concours quality restoration.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: uwe on April 22, 2010, 07:42:19 AM
I think both the TB Non Rev and the RD could have emanated from Citroen. And the Victory and the 20/20 as well.

Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Pilgrim on April 22, 2010, 09:05:29 AM

I know a lot of fervent Citroen owners, not one of them has ever laid claim that their babies are service-friendly (or reliable).


They are, after all, French.  This has historically been a case of "if-then".
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: chromium on April 22, 2010, 11:34:14 AM
what in God's name ever made you choose a Citroen as a project car? Temporary insanity? Sado-masochistic tendencies? Penance?

All the above ;D   I always thought the big Cits looked a bit spaceship-like and menacing:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/130291220_8b8b2f921e.jpg)

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/292515402_b02ae7ef0f.jpg)


The old engines were pretty much bulletproof (mine even had a pointless ignition system).  The hydraulic systems can be a bit of a time sink and money pit to sort out.  Up unit the late 60s they used a glycol-based fluid, and most people in the 'States just ran DOT3 brake fluid in them.  As that stuff absorbs moisture over time it causes corrosion inside the system.  That can have far reaching effects:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/111235_3mg.jpg)


Once I straightened mine out it worked well.  It used these slide valves (called "height correctors") with mechanical linkages to the front wishbone and rear trailing arms to self-level the suspension.  A crude active-suspension of sorts, which is kinda neat considering its age.  Cranking the ride height up to 4x4 levels, and then dropping it in the weeds was a neat party trick too.  Felt like I was in a French Dr. Dre video 8)  (there was never quite as much booty shakin' going on, though)
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: uwe on April 22, 2010, 03:59:58 PM
This here, my friends,

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/111235_3mg.jpg)

fully explains why it only took us three weeks to get here:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-126-0347-09A,_Paris,_Deutsche_Truppen_am_Arc_de_Triomphe.jpg)

"French", "technology" and "it works reliably" just don't go together, though you have to admire how hard they try:

(http://www.einmission.de/media/Bilder/citroen.jpg)

Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: lowend1 on April 22, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
I knew a guy that owned a Citroen. He had it in a beautiful two-car garage attached to his house. One night he heard a noise and what sounded like a Citroen engine. So he gets out of bed and heads outside to find that someone had broken into his garage...
and left a second Citroen there.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: chromium on April 22, 2010, 04:14:12 PM
I knew a guy that owned a Citroen. He had it in a beautiful two-car garage attached to his house. One night he heard a noise and what sounded like a Citroen engine. So he gets out of bed and heads outside to find that someone had broken into his garage...
and left a second Citroen there.

Shhh!  You weren't supposed to say anything!  I had to get rid of it somehow...  ;D
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Dave W on April 22, 2010, 04:23:05 PM
I knew a guy that owned a Citroen. He had it in a beautiful two-car garage attached to his house. One night he heard a noise and what sounded like a Citroen engine. So he gets out of bed and heads outside to find that someone had broken into his garage...
and left a second Citroen there.

 :mrgreen:

I heard the same story but with Fiats.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: lowend1 on April 22, 2010, 06:16:13 PM
:mrgreen:

I heard the same story but with Fiats.

It's correct for any occasion. I first heard it applied to 75-watt Celestions!
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Dave W on April 22, 2010, 10:37:56 PM
It's also related to a joke I heard many years ago about a guy at work in his office who realized he had left his pair of Houston Oilers season tickets on his dashboard in plain sight. He rushed to the parking garage to find that someone had broken into his car and left another pair.

Adapt to the last place team of your choice.  :)

Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: Chris P. on April 22, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
This joke is new to me! I'm gonna use it a lot, this weekend!!  :mrgreen:

@ Uwe: If you believe movies, all SS officers drove Citroen Traction Avants. And all European gangsters.
Title: Re: Finally a Citroen thats not ugly
Post by: uwe on April 23, 2010, 06:13:56 AM
Master criminal Fantomas drove/flew one ...

(http://www.new-video.de/co/fantomas-welt.jpg)