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Title: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on November 22, 2018, 09:43:17 PM
On sale for $1000 through Nov. 30th

https://reverb.com/item/15918521-gibson-usa-lespaul-standrad-bass-lpb-3-sunburst-free-shipping
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 23, 2018, 09:48:29 AM
Really wish I didn't see that. Thanks a bunch Dave. Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Granny Gremlin on November 23, 2018, 11:20:40 AM
That's actually a pretty good price considering it includes shipping.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2018, 05:16:18 PM
Really wish I didn't see that. Thanks a bunch Dave. Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.

You know you need it! I've played two in the past, both sounded great but must have been over 10 lbs.

I'm going to a small Thanksgiving gathering in a few minutes. Yesterday was sad for me, had planned to share Thanksgiving with a friend but she passed unexpectedly in late September.

That's actually a pretty good price considering it includes shipping.

Very good, especially coming from Japan where asking prices are usually higher. Don't see many of these at any price.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Basvarken on November 24, 2018, 08:55:34 AM
Looks pretty good for its age.
Except for the jackplate that seems to have been subject to corrosion more than the other metal parts. Probably inferior chrome or perhaps a redux reaction to different metals?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: planetgaffnet on November 26, 2018, 03:37:52 AM
I know that a lot of basses share an element of design heritage with guitars (Firebird/Thunderbird etc.), but I've never felt the Les Paul Bass shape lends itself that well to a bass. 
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Chris P. on November 26, 2018, 04:31:26 AM
Looks pretty good for its age.
Except for the jackplate that seems to have been subject to corrosion more than the other metal parts. Probably inferior chrome or perhaps a redux reaction to different metals?

It might be owned by a guy having trouble to find the hole with his jack.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: neepheid on November 26, 2018, 06:38:19 AM
I know that a lot of basses share an element of design heritage with guitars (Firebird/Thunderbird etc.), but I've never felt the Les Paul Bass shape lends itself that well to a bass.

Isn't it good that we don't all like the same things?  I love the LP bass, especially if they keep the body guitar sized - I am not a fan of the "oversized" LP bass.  I just really like that small body with the long neck coming out of it, perhaps it's the "wrongness" of it that makes it right for me :)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: westen44 on November 26, 2018, 09:40:25 AM
Isn't it good that we don't all like the same things?  I love the LP bass, especially if they keep the body guitar sized - I am not a fan of the "oversized" LP bass.  I just really like that small body with the long neck coming out of it, perhaps it's the "wrongness" of it that makes it right for me :)

I always thought the LP shape looked especially good for bass, too. 
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Basvarken on November 26, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
I have no complaints either...  8)

(http://www.superfloor.net/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/4163444_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: neepheid on November 26, 2018, 05:02:41 PM
Oh well, if we're sharing (it was Halloween, hence the Ghostbusters outfit):

(http://www.ifb.co.uk/~matthew/pics/matt_live/matt_krakatoa_halloween_2018.jpg)

Photo by Matt Jolly Photography.

The bass in question:

(http://www.ifb.co.uk/~matthew/pics/epi_lp/5234431026_bf2bc56fef_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on November 26, 2018, 05:46:38 PM
It might be owned by a guy having trouble to find the hole with his jack.

That's what she said!  :rimshot:
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 27, 2018, 07:52:02 AM
What black pickups are hiding under those rings neepheid?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: gearHed289 on November 27, 2018, 08:51:38 AM
I love the LP bass, especially if they keep the body guitar sized - I am not a fan of the "oversized" LP bass.

Me too. Ever since I saw John Waite with the Babys playing a Zemaitis on the Midnight Special I've wanted a Les Paul bass. My beloved cherry red LPB-1 is currently in semi-retirement due to what seems to be a flipped truss rod resulting in a nice crack behind the nut.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: neepheid on November 27, 2018, 11:18:20 AM
What black pickups are hiding under those rings neepheid?

2x EMG-HB.  Active P bass split rails in a guitar humbucker sized package - http://www.emgpickups.com/hb.html
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: slinkp on November 27, 2018, 01:02:31 PM
I never thought one way or the other about the aesthetics of LP basses ... I never even saw them for a long time!   They're just not very common really.
I think the first time I ever noticed one at all was Me'shell back in the 90s, and I'd been playing bass about 13 years by then.
I remember thinking it looked really cool and unusual on her.
I think I noticed Tom Hamilton playing one in an Aerosmith video from back then too, possibly "Living on the Edge?"

But ... when I saw that yellow-burst LPB1 that popped up on ebay a decade or so ago ... it was love at first sight. No idea why, I just instantly loved the look of it, and that was during that blissful period after I got a "real job" and before I had kids, when I could buy a bass on impulse!  I'd never held one or heard one, but ... well, you've all heard me rave about it before :)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on November 27, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
Enough talk, who's going to pull the trigger?

The listing now says "2 people have this in their carts." Anyone here?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 28, 2018, 09:06:04 AM
Not me. I still need to make sure I can pay off the guy designing a new replacement for the evertilt on my EB-1. By the way, he says he should be making forward progress on it pretty soon. Hopefully it's worth the wait.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: amptech on November 28, 2018, 11:13:43 PM
Not me. I still need to make sure I can pay off the guy designing a new replacement for the evertilt on my EB-1. By the way, he says he should be making forward progress on it pretty soon. Hopefully it's worth the wait.

Why not just install a bar bridge?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Basvarken on November 29, 2018, 06:02:30 AM
Not me. I still need to make sure I can pay off the guy designing a new replacement for the evertilt on my EB-1. By the way, he says he should be making forward progress on it pretty soon. Hopefully it's worth the wait.

I have a 12 cent solution for that.
I placed a small dome head screw under the bridge. In the middle, on the front side.
So it has basicly become a three point bridge. Except it's barely visible.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 29, 2018, 09:53:07 AM
That's a practical solution for keeping things original. I'd still prefer a new bridge though. One with better materials and no Delrin plastic saddles that end up having progressively deeper grooves.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 29, 2018, 09:56:07 AM
2x EMG-HB.  Active P bass split rails in a guitar humbucker sized package - http://www.emgpickups.com/hb.html


Wish I knew about those before trading in the Epi LP I had. I might go with emgs on my 92' LPB-1. Anyone know if their T-bird shaped pickups would be drop ins for that Les Paul model?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: gearHed289 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:14 AM

Wish I knew about those before trading in the Epi LP I had. I might go with emgs on my 92' LPB-1. Anyone know if their T-bird shaped pickups would be drop ins for that Les Paul model?

Should be no problem on an LPB-1. The 2 and 3 would need the EMG HB.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Grog on November 29, 2018, 11:25:52 AM
One with better materials and no Delrin plastic saddles that end up having progressively deeper grooves.

The Evertilt on my '72 EB-4L (which I believe is the last year it was used) had metal saddles. I used my EB-1 the other day. No grooves were ever cut in the Delrin saddles on that one...………...
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: clankenstein on November 29, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
That's what my 72 EB4L had too.Do you need Delrin rin to play the Doo ron ron?
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 29, 2018, 04:18:45 PM
Why not just install a bar bridge?
A vintage bar bridge? Weren't they made to be seated on offset posts?
I'm surprised there are delrin saddles that aren't notched out there. Seems like string tension alone would wear them down over time.
Now the only question is, which flavor of emg to pick for the lp special.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: FrankieTbird on November 29, 2018, 04:45:41 PM
A vintage bar bridge? Weren't they made to be seated on offset posts?
I'm surprised there are delrin saddles that aren't notched out there. Seems like string tension alone would wear them down over time.
Now the only question is, which flavor of emg to pick for the lp special.


The posts are not offset for the old bar bridge, the "saddle" is slanted.  The post spacing is just slightly different that the Tilt-O-Matic though unfortunately.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on November 29, 2018, 10:27:36 PM
A vintage bar bridge? Weren't they made to be seated on offset posts?
I'm surprised there are delrin saddles that aren't notched out there. Seems like string tension alone would wear them down over time.
Now the only question is, which flavor of emg to pick for the lp special.


The posts are not offset for the old bar bridge, the "saddle" is slanted.  The post spacing is just slightly different that the Tilt-O-Matic though unfortunately.


Neither of my nylon saddle bridges have/had slotted saddles.

The posts are slightly offset on every bar bridge I've seen.

(http://www.flyguitars.com/graphics/part27_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: amptech on November 29, 2018, 11:19:15 PM
A vintage bar bridge? Weren't they made to be seated on offset posts?


Yes, and they are the superior bridge :mrgreen: One day I'm putting a bar bridge on my P and my Ricky...

Ok, so you are having a bridge custom made to replace the tilt bridge without modifying posts?
Sounds expensive. But most fun things in life are!
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Basvarken on November 29, 2018, 11:30:57 PM
I'm surprised there are delrin saddles that aren't notched out there. Seems like string tension alone would wear them down over time.

My Les Paul Bass has the nylon saddles. It is almost 50 years old and does not show any sign of wear on the saddles. They are not notched.
This bass has been played very intensively. It is covered in battle scars. But not the saddles.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Grog on November 30, 2018, 08:02:41 AM
I've said in the past that two of my basses are so clean, they were never set up! According to this thread, not grooving the nylon saddles is the norm. I checked four basses & only my Les Paul bass was grooved. My EB-0 had string marks in the saddles but was never grooved. This photo is of a '68 EB-2DC.

 (https://i.imgur.com/fTdsKhS.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Pilgrim on November 30, 2018, 06:45:52 PM
As the photo above shows, the bar bridge has set screws that allow you to use it with posts either offset or aligned, and (I would guess) for some intonation adjustment.

I have the bar bridge on my '64 EB-0 and the intonation is just fine.  I think it's a good bridge.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Basvarken on December 01, 2018, 01:38:28 AM
No, those tiny hex screws are for securing the bridge.
Often they are overlooked and people demolish the string posts by trying to raise/lower them without loosening the hex screws first.
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 01, 2018, 08:38:43 AM
Sale's over on the LP standard and the price is back up again. Unlike that bass, I'm betting you guys are going to scramble to get your hands on the new evertilt replacement once you see it.  8)
Title: Re: Nice LPB-3 at Ishibashi
Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2018, 03:42:42 PM
As the photo above shows, the bar bridge has set screws that allow you to use it with posts either offset or aligned, and (I would guess) for some intonation adjustment.

I have the bar bridge on my '64 EB-0 and the intonation is just fine.  I think it's a good bridge.

No, those tiny hex screws are for securing the bridge.
Often they are overlooked and people demolish the string posts by trying to raise/lower them without loosening the hex screws first.


I don't think you can put the bar bridge on aligned posts, the spacing isn't quite the same as the offset posts. Besides, the angle of the raised bar is designed to work with the offset posts.

Rob is right about the hex screws, and not just on the bar bridge. I've seen string posts on wraptail guitar bridges damaged that way.