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Title: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Alanko on August 12, 2016, 05:24:38 AM
I shouldn't, but I quite like this!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTORIA-NEW-MODEL-SHORT-SCALE-BASS-GUITAR-New-Yorker-Les-Paul-Junior-Case/252489393286?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38052%26meid%3D16c56f4423264986854a9208b024f4a6%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D331871107849 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTORIA-NEW-MODEL-SHORT-SCALE-BASS-GUITAR-New-Yorker-Les-Paul-Junior-Case/252489393286?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38052%26meid%3D16c56f4423264986854a9208b024f4a6%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D331871107849)
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Stjofön Big on August 12, 2016, 06:00:05 AM
Really beautiful bass guitar! Love that body style!
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Post by: Granny Gremlin on August 12, 2016, 06:33:25 AM
Yup.
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Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 06:52:50 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Alanko on August 12, 2016, 07:03:41 AM
When Gibson introduced the Pelham blue LP Jr bass, somebody produce a mockup of a single-pickup TV Yellow LP Jr bass as an example of what they should have done.

The only thing about the Antoria that I'm wary of is the huge machine heads.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: ilan on August 12, 2016, 07:05:28 AM
Pretty for sure, but with the strap button over the 16th fret, the long scale neck will dive like a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Basvarken on August 12, 2016, 07:17:07 AM
Love it.
I'm going yo build one myself. With a fifties P single coil instead.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 07:17:45 AM
Pretty for sure, but with the strap button over the 16th fret, the long scale neck will dive like a goalkeeper.

The listing says short scale...at least four times.  Judging by mine, balance should be no problem even with strap button at the heel.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1080065P_zpsvdixcrxm.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1080065P_zpsvdixcrxm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Alanko on August 12, 2016, 07:25:28 AM
You could retrofit a chrome T-bird pickup with a trim ring and probably cover over the routing of the stock pickup.
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Post by: gearHed289 on August 12, 2016, 07:27:00 AM
I don't know. It needs a more annoying backdrop.  ;)

Cool bass. I was thinking neck dive too, but if it is a shorty shouldn't be bad. Get rid of that fugly pickup.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 07:29:07 AM
Love it.
I'm going yo build one myself. With a fifties P single coil instead.
:thumbsup:

If you need it, Rob.  Grid is one inch.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1040112_zps4e9bc110.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1040112_zps4e9bc110.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 07:36:26 AM
Actually, neck dive might be a bigger problem than on an original since the neck meets the body at the twentieth fret... easier to play, though.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Granny Gremlin on August 12, 2016, 07:40:32 AM
Bridge placement pretty much precludes long scale; must be a shawty.

The only thing about the Antoria that I'm wary of is the ...

fugly pickup.

When Gibson introduced the Pelham blue LP Jr bass, somebody produce a mockup of a single-pickup TV Yellow LP Jr bass as an example of what they should have done.

That blue one was similar, but they changed the shape significantly; just didn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 07:54:55 AM
You want ugly?

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/2011%20RI%20abortion_zpsha9lgabi.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/2011%20RI%20abortion_zpsha9lgabi.jpg.html)

Didn't really improve the playability, either.
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Post by: 4stringer77 on August 12, 2016, 07:56:22 AM
Good looking bass. TV white or yellow instead of a solid taxi cab yellow finish would have made it more attractive.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Granny Gremlin on August 12, 2016, 09:10:37 AM
You want ugly?

...

Didn't really improve the playability, either.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Basvarken on August 12, 2016, 09:42:07 AM
:thumbsup:

If you need it, Rob.  Grid is one inch.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/P1040112_zps4e9bc110.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/1960%20EBO/P1040112_zps4e9bc110.jpg.html)

Thank you Carlo. That may come in handy. Can you tell me the body / neck angle by any chance?
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: chromium on August 12, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
I like that Antoria!

I find the LP Jr shape to be very comfortable, as evidenced by my immersion in that design in more recent years  ;D

Here's a mid-scale flanked by two shorties.  The 'hog neck on the left one feels a lot like my '68 EB-3.  It's the Gibson design that should have been...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/hamer/0723161156.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 09:58:27 AM
Thank you Carlo. That may come in handy. Can you tell me the body / neck angle by any chance?


You're welcome.  All my short scale Gibsons are out of reach at the moment.  I work with whatever bridge I'm using so original neck angle is not something I'm usually concerned with, sorry. 
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
I like that Antoria!

I find the LP Jr shape to be very comfortable, as evidenced by my immersion in that design in more recent years  ;D

Here's a mid-scale flanked by two shorties.  The 'hog neck on the left one feels a lot like my '68 EB-3.  It's the Gibson design that should have been...

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/hamer/0723161156.jpg)
Those are all killer basses, Joe! The one on the right looks like it has two more frets clear of the body.  Is that to accommodate the trem?
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Alanko on August 12, 2016, 01:14:38 PM
I think a proper TV finish would have hiked the price of the bass somewhat. £300 doesn't get you too much bass these days.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
Thank you Carlo. That may come in handy. Can you tell me the body / neck angle by any chance?

Rob, just checked.  Zero neck/body angle on my '60.

Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Dave W on August 12, 2016, 02:11:54 PM
Nice looker. Hard to tell whether or not it will neck dive. Depends on the body weight. At least the strap button isn't on the back of the neck/body joint so it won't roll forward too.

Impressive wig on that guy. Is it included in the case candy?

Neck angle (if any) is going to depend on bridge height. The 2015 SG Standard Bass has a 1.5 degree neck angle according to the specs. With a bridge that sits lower than the Babicz you could get away with zero neck angle. A Schaller roller bridge ought to do the trick.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Nice looker. Hard to tell whether or not it will neck dive. Depends on the body weight. At least the strap button isn't on the back of the neck/body joint so it won't roll forward too.

Impressive wig on that guy. Is it included in the case candy?

Neck angle (if any) is going to depend on bridge height. The 2015 SG Standard Bass has a 1.5 degree neck angle according to the specs. With a bridge that sits lower than the Babicz you could get away with zero neck angle. A Schaller roller bridge ought to do the trick.

Distance from the top of the body to the top of the fretboard is also a factor in determining necessary neck angle.

I ordered two through necks with zero neck angle and top of the fretboard 12mm above body line because that works with the bridge, Schaller 471-8.  I could've cut the 12mm in half and used a neck angle but that seemed unnecessarily complicated.  I'll see how it works out when they arrive next week, already have a plan B if there's a problem.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Dave W on August 12, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Right, I should have mentioned that. The slothead era EB-0s and 3s had no neck angle even with the height of the 2-point bridge b/c the neck was raised higher above the body than Gibson had done before.  And it's also possible to partially sink a bridge into the body. That's what Warwick does (or at least they used to), while Gibson used the same W bridge mounted flush on the 90s LP basses and used a neck angle.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: chromium on August 12, 2016, 04:06:21 PM
Those are all killer basses, Joe! The one on the right looks like it has two more frets clear of the body.  Is that to accommodate the trem?

I think you're right. That was a custom order done in '90 w/factory Kahler, and the saddles are quite a bit further in compared to that '80 w/3-point.  Neck is maple on that one, and more of a slim carve typical of that era.

Here it was in original form... stealth divebomber.  Kinda liked the look, but just not a huge fan of the EMG-HBs.

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/hamer/1203141940_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: dadagoboi on August 12, 2016, 04:17:59 PM
I think you're right. That was a custom order done in '90 w/factory Kahler, and the saddles are quite a bit further in compared to that '80 w/3-point.  Neck is maple on that one, and more of a slim carve typical of that era.

Here it was in original form... stealth divebomber.  Kinda liked the look, but just not a huge fan of the EMG-HBs.


Thanks, Joe.  I hated the stock EMGs in my Chap 12.  Immediately replaced them with with a set of EMG ceramic and steel 3 coils with a push/pull SC/HB vol pot.  Switched them back when I sold it.
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Post by: Pilgrim on August 13, 2016, 10:01:12 AM
I'd rather have a Tele-slab bass myself. That particular slab style doesn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: exiledarchangel on August 13, 2016, 11:09:11 AM
Close enough to a real Gibson for me, I can live with that headstock and the color is not bad. Looks like a nice platform for mods, change the electronics, install all black hardware and you're set.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Dave W on August 13, 2016, 06:21:52 PM
Close enough to a real Gibson for me, I can live with that headstock and the color is not bad. Looks like a nice platform for mods, change the electronics, install all black hardware and you're set.

You and Uwe, stuck in the 80s with black hardware.  :P

I wouldn't dismiss that pickup without hearing it.
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Post by: exiledarchangel on August 14, 2016, 05:35:51 AM
I like the combination of a bright (-ish) color with the black hardware, what can I say? :D Chrome seems to work better with darker shades, and gold works for me only if paired with darker reds or blues (or purples! :P ) maybe . IMHO ofcourse.
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Alanko on August 15, 2016, 01:39:14 PM
I've heard it said that this is Uwe's ring tone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8
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Post by: exiledarchangel on August 16, 2016, 01:53:24 AM
Great song from a great band, whats more to say? :D
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Post by: Dave W on August 16, 2016, 06:48:34 PM
Great song from a great band, whats more to say? :D

Not enough chrome in that video.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Granny Gremlin on August 21, 2016, 06:25:57 AM
Did you even see the podium scenes, Dave?
Title: Re: Interesting Antoria LP Jr-style bass.
Post by: Dave W on August 21, 2016, 08:36:25 PM
I watched almost a minute of it. That was more than enough.