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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: ilan on April 05, 2013, 10:17:58 PM

Title: Rutherfaker
Post by: ilan on April 05, 2013, 10:17:58 PM
The TRC's say Rickenbacker... how long before the Rickenwaffen have this one removed?

I like the pickguard shapes better than real 4080.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Resembles-Rickenbacker-Bass-/271184907877?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f23e14e65

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Resembles-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/AcIAAOxyM1VRX5aw/$T2eC16N,!)QE9s3HD)KrBR(5,vs0v!~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Resembles-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/NTMzWDgwMA==/z/ksMAAMXQy7hRX5ar/$T2eC16Z,!zEE9s3!YlrqBR(5,qz+(g~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Resembles-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/NTYwWDkzMA==/z/LFUAAMXQ71xRX5ar/$T2eC16N,!wsE9suw)j)MBR(5,q6mTQ~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Resembles-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/NTY3WDkwNQ==/z/AZQAAOxyM1VRX5ar/$T2eC16N,!y8E9s2filQoBR(5,qvuDw~~60_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Chris P. on April 06, 2013, 03:20:02 AM
I want it!
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Denis on April 06, 2013, 04:47:42 AM
"Rickenwaffen". Heh.  ;D
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 06, 2013, 07:09:48 AM
Actually mentioning Rickenbacker in the auction title is almost sure to get it removed.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on April 06, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
I really enjoyed the detailed description.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: the mojo hobo on April 06, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
Yea, especially:

Scale/Nut Width "/111/16"
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Denis on April 06, 2013, 03:21:00 PM
111/16" must be the distance between the two necks. :)
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 06, 2013, 04:08:59 PM
It's gone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: FrankieTbird on April 07, 2013, 07:58:17 AM

It's back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Double-Neck-6-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Genesis-Rutherford-replica-bass-/271185328200?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f23e7b848
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 07, 2013, 08:59:02 AM
That won't help him. He's on the radar, they'll be watching.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: uwe on April 09, 2013, 07:05:21 AM
The carpet crawlers ... heed their callers ...
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 09, 2013, 07:22:01 AM
Gone again!
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: ilan on April 09, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
(http://images.quickblogcast.com/111579-104770/back_soon.jpg?a=87)
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: SeanS on April 10, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
Actually, a much better attempt than this one, where two Ric's died, although this guy got the horn near right, WTF happened to the meeting of bodies ???.

www.yourmovetheband.com/rick.php
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Hörnisse on April 10, 2013, 09:45:17 PM
Michael Stevens put one together some years back.  His description of it:

 The Ric was handed to me as two brand new guitars in boxes to join together. Rics had the bass on top which seemed wrong to both of us ? Original finish was left on the necks. I knew someone would ask about it , so there.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/24zd5ix.jpg)
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: gearHed289 on April 11, 2013, 07:47:24 AM
Actually, a much better attempt than this one, where two Ric's died, although this guy got the horn near right, WTF happened to the meeting of bodies ???.

www.yourmovetheband.com/rick.php

I've seen that one. Don't really care for the "rear end". When I win the lotto, I'm going to join a 480 guitar (top) to a 4003S bass.  :P
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 11, 2013, 08:30:09 AM
Actually, a much better attempt than this one, where two Ric's died, although this guy got the horn near right, WTF happened to the meeting of bodies ???.

www.yourmovetheband.com/rick.php

No doubt he wanted the area between the upper horns to be continuous. The overall effect just doesn't look right to me, though.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: SeanS on April 11, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
No doubt he wanted the area between the upper horns to be continuous. The overall effect just doesn't look right to me, though.

I meant the lower edge, looks like two guitars glued together, not sure how the real RUTH was done in this respect though, the bridge on the bass looks pretty much where it should be, so extra body on the 12 string I suppose.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on April 11, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
I meant the lower edge, looks like two guitars glued together, not sure how the real RUTH was done in this respect though, the bridge on the bass looks pretty much where it should be, so extra body on the 12 string I suppose.

I get the feeling the rears were not aligned to make transitioning between the necks easier. The guitar is set farther foward in a more natural playing position in regards to the fretting hand.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Dave W on April 11, 2013, 05:41:22 PM
I meant the lower edge, looks like two guitars glued together, not sure how the real RUTH was done in this respect though, the bridge on the bass looks pretty much where it should be, so extra body on the 12 string I suppose.

That's what I meant about it not looking right. He made the upper transition smooth but the lower transition looks awkward.

I get the feeling the rears were not aligned to make transitioning between the necks easier. The guitar is set farther foward in a more natural playing position in regards to the fretting hand.

That makes sense.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: SeanS on April 11, 2013, 11:48:35 PM
I get the feeling the rears were not aligned to make transitioning between the necks easier. The guitar is set farther foward in a more natural playing position in regards to the fretting hand.



It does make sense, but it's not like the real one which has no mating lines or curves.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Hörnisse on April 12, 2013, 04:02:37 PM


It does make sense, but it's not like the real one which has no mating lines or curves.

Plus, the real ones have bolt on necks. :-\
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: ilan on April 13, 2013, 06:05:53 AM
Plus, the real ones have bolt on necks. :-\
I could never understand why they were designed like that. Maybe because the two necks are at different angle (tilt) to the body - but why?

The first 4080's had the bass neck not deep enough into the body (like the Burg in the pic), which was unstable and prone to trouble. So RIC changed the body shape around the cutaway, so that the necks have deeper pockets. They had to compromise looks (and upper fret access) for function. They also glued the necks inside the pockets.

(http://basschat.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-2229-0-03932500-1335007995.jpg)
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: uwe on April 17, 2013, 02:30:17 PM
Real Ric doublenecks were bolt-on?  :o

How you guys shatter illusions here.  :-\
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: Paul Boyer on April 18, 2013, 05:55:48 AM
Real Ric doublenecks were bolt-on?  :o

How you guys shatter illusions here.  :-\

Illusion, indeed. Actually, the double-neckers are "screwed and glued." But the 4080 is not the only Rick bass to have something other than a neck-through assembly. 4000 and 4001S basses from mid-1972 to the end of production in the early 1980s were set-neck construction. The hollow-body 4005 bass family also had set necks.

The lower-priced 3001 (and the short-scale 3000) were "bolt-on" necks (wood screws, actually), as were all the basses in the 2000 series: 2020, 2030, 2050, 2060, and 2030 Glenn Frey signature edition.

Neck-through Rick basses include early 4000 and 4001S, deluxe 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, and 4008 and all their subvariants.
Title: Re: Rutherfaker
Post by: SeanS on April 21, 2013, 02:24:01 AM
Plus, the real ones have bolt on necks. :-\

I was referring to the real Rutherford.