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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Grog on February 19, 2024, 07:52:26 AM

Title: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Grog on February 19, 2024, 07:52:26 AM
Has anybody ever tried one of these? Maybe I have been living under a rock, but this is the first time I've seen this.......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235406304231?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3D41ff72e4da264ac79ddee418884ecd18%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D235406304231%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3Ac1d6295018d0a8cec1d82155fffdc9b4%7Cpageci%3Ad13f5980-cf35-11ee-99ad-2614a8e2e530%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: exiledarchangel on February 19, 2024, 01:04:58 PM
Looks like a (wide aperture) humbucker, not a sidewinder.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Basvarken on February 19, 2024, 02:10:23 PM
Never seen before.
Any sound clips anywhere?
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2024, 02:19:18 PM
On top, it looks like the Curtis Novak EB-BSx (https://www.curtisnovak.com/shop/eb-bsx/) but AFAIK that one's alnico, not neo.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Alanko on February 19, 2024, 02:49:18 PM
Neodymium is pretty strong! I destroyed a Mustang bass pickup by fitting neo rods in place of the original alnico rods. The neo rods pulled together, ruining the flatwork!

Putting stong magnets under the strings at the 24th fret location on a shortscale bass could be a recipe for wolftones and choking unless you are careful with the pickup height.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Grog on February 19, 2024, 03:08:37 PM
I noticed that they also make a similar pickup for T-Birds......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235398549699?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3Df7980d3891934228b117d1b42f6eb8e5%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D235398549699%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3Ac366330018d0acd9907c6efbfffd8cc4%7Cpageci%3Adbb5cc74-cf72-11ee-b662-12c396d918d8%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage

I've switched most of my speaker cab's to NEO speakers for weight reasons, not sure what advantage NEO pickups would have. 
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2024, 12:08:26 AM
They have a website. https://www.916pickups.com/

No real info about the company.

MusicMan uses neo on its Stingray Special. Discussed here: https://blog.music-man.com/instruments/stingray-special-spotlight-neodymium-pickups/
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Grog on February 21, 2024, 07:52:41 AM
The Stingray uses active NEO Pickups. Not enough info on the 916 website to tell if they are active or passive…..
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: gearHed289 on February 21, 2024, 08:16:45 AM
The Stingray uses active NEO Pickups. Not enough info on the 916 website to tell if they are active or passive…..

Are the pickups themselves actually active, like EMGs? It sounds to me like they're running the pickup through an onboard 18V pre-amp. The 916 pickups only have two wires, and the description of the neo P says "no need for batteries".
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Alanko on February 21, 2024, 08:47:06 AM
I think the pickups themselves are passive as they appear to have three hookup wires. Judging by the post on this forum, the wires correspond with the start and end of the coils, plus a chassis ground, grounding the poles. No requirement for power to the pickup:https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/335857-ernie-ball-stingray-special-18v-neodymium-wiring-in-series-help-swap-smb-4d (https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/335857-ernie-ball-stingray-special-18v-neodymium-wiring-in-series-help-swap-smb-4d)
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2024, 01:52:32 PM
Stingray pickups are passive. The Stingray Special uses EB's newer 18v preamp.

No reason to think the 916 pickups are active. I can't think of anyone other than EMG currently making true active pickups.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: BTL on February 21, 2024, 04:07:35 PM
A little more info here:

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/916-pickups-club.1636368/
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2024, 08:30:51 PM
Thanks, Brad. He explains a lot there.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Grog on February 22, 2024, 07:36:31 AM
Thanks! That did answer a lot of questions…..
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: Ken on February 22, 2024, 07:38:22 AM
Curious what tonal range his Thunderbird pickup hits.
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: BTL on February 22, 2024, 03:11:57 PM
Thanks, Brad. He explains a lot there.

It's funny, I had never heard of him before, then two posts on my radar within days of each other. The internet is an amazing thing. :)
Title: Re: Neodymium EB-0 Pickup.........
Post by: n!k on February 23, 2024, 02:51:33 PM
while searching for some replacement pickups for my '90 Tbird I came across these. I also found some interesting other things that perhaps a more brave soul here could buy and report on:

https://reverb.com/item/49380706-stonewall-pickups-alternate-dimension-thunderbird-bass-humbucker-set
An interesting overwound design, no sound clips I could find. I was tempted but I think the open coil design would be hard on a Thunderbird where so much of the pickup is exposed compared to an open coil guitar humbucker with a pickup ring

https://www.riograndepickups.com/thunderbass-3
Looks like it's to fit the larger Epi Bird route and is more of a dual Jazz Bass humbucker design