The Last Bass Outpost

Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Granny Gremlin on April 10, 2014, 09:46:29 AM

Title: THEY're a national obsession apparently (Uwe's Edit: Quite darn right too!)
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 10, 2014, 09:46:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLwnn9ZmMTY

(complete with villainous mastermind smiling creepily at 1:17ish)
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2014, 11:27:32 AM
[Jackboots in Whitehall] Anyone here ever read "The Man In The High Castle" ... ? [/Jackboots in Whitehall]

Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 10, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
YES!  I love P K Dick.  Do Androids Dream is easily my least favorite.
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2014, 12:43:31 PM
The seed behind it is what haunted his work ...
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: TBird1958 on April 10, 2014, 12:55:33 PM


 Those tuba players were right in the pocket!  ;)


Rather German Valhalla - ish imagery going - Und now, ve vill march!
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Pilgrim on April 10, 2014, 04:40:27 PM

 Those tuba players were right in the pocket!  ;)


Rather German Valhalla - ish imagery going - Und now, ve vill march!

And they all end precisely together with stereotypical Teutonic exactitude!  (Couldn't resist a bit of alliteration.)
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/Humour/Poland.jpg) :mrgreen:
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 11, 2014, 07:05:26 AM
:(
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently
Post by: uwe on April 11, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
Hey, I have never denied that there is a "Teutonic" element in DP's music (which btw Led Zep's music totally lacks, from a German viewpoint that is "sloppily engineered")!!! It probably stems from Blackmore's germanophile character, his love of German classical and renaissance folk music, his longer stays in the country, his German first wife - he was after all the chief songwriter of DP. Rainbow was even more Teutonic than DP in my ears - too Teutonic for my taste in fact, they already began to sound a little stiff (something Jon Lord and Ian Paice would always prevent from happening with DP). It's not a coincidence that DP ruled the seventies hard rock market in Germany like no other band, Zep included, DP's music appealed to something in (nearly all of) us.

Judas Priest is btw "Teutonic sounding" in my ears too - it's well-engineered music. It's something that appealed to me immediately first time I heard "Sinner, Sinner ... Sinnnnneeeeerrrrr!" blare out of the listening in headphones of a record shop and almost creamed in my pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4H89b8PYjg

Iron Maiden? Not so much. And if you "Teutonize" Priest just a little more, you end up with this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddx_urDPJA

And to bring things full circle, where did Wolf Hoffmann of Accept get the little melody from he plays at 5:11? Listen here at 4:19 ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se8srYEdi2I
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently (Uwe's Edit: Quite darn right too!)
Post by: gearHed289 on April 14, 2014, 07:58:14 AM
I needed some dinner making music last night, and Rainbow "Rising" caught my eye. Hadn't listened to it in forever, and wow, is it PROG-gy! What a great lineup. Dio's mile-wide vibrato can get to be a little much, but hey, it fit the times and the style perfectly.
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently (Uwe's Edit: Quite darn right too!)
Post by: uwe on April 14, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
I'm in two minds about the production (the American mix is superior to the European one, that is outright tinny!) of that album: Between Dio, Blackmore and Powell, the other two got about 10% of the available sonic space! But the Tarot Woman synth intro with the clipped Blackmore rhythm guitar and Powell's rumblesome break is worth the price of admission alone! To a lot of people the Rising album is Blackmore's best recorded work and the solos are of course majestic, but whereas DP always rocked & rolled, Rainbow only rocked. To me DP always gorooved more due to such players as Paice, Lord and Hughes, Rainbow had an unfortunate tendency for forehead-furrow-stern-faced plodding sometimes. That said, the two gigs of the Dio-Blackmore-Powell triumvirate I saw (once with Bain and Carey, the other time with Daisley and Stone) were awe-inspiring. Blackmore was both in perfect control of his guitar and the band.

Ronnie chose to limit his vocal expression to a certain style in the Rainbow years by his own (image) design and he stuck with it forever in the Black Sabbath, Dio and Heaven & Hell years that followed. He was quite a bit more variable with Elf or on Roger Glover's Butterfly Ball.
Title: Re: THEY're a national obsession apparently (Uwe's Edit: Quite darn right too!)
Post by: Highlander on April 14, 2014, 03:02:34 PM
Only saw the Daisley/Stone line-up, but indeed, stunning; but one added bonus was seeing Rainbow and the Rainbow at the Rainbow ... saw them there with Bonnet too, but a much more commercial variant ...
I have some (dodgy and far away) pics from the first one that will get scanned one day...